Comments on: MINXX SHOOTER SAYS PACMAN FRAMED HIM http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:16:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: bgarcia http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-23029 bgarcia Thu, 01 May 2008 18:09:50 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-23029 gallaghedj311 wrote: "The point here is the obvious fact that Edwards is very uneducated and that permits one to wonder about his credibility." so an uneducated person is less credible than a well-educated person like, say, Bill Clinton? George Bush? Choose your words carefully, gallaghedj311. Furthermore, the comments stray from the subject at hand. It's not about Edwards' grammar, it's about the content. gallaghedj311 wrote: “The point here is the obvious fact that Edwards is very uneducated and that permits one to wonder about his credibility.”

so an uneducated person is less credible than a well-educated person like, say, Bill Clinton? George Bush? Choose your words carefully, gallaghedj311. Furthermore, the comments stray from the subject at hand. It’s not about Edwards’ grammar, it’s about the content.

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]]> By: crichton08 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-23016 crichton08 Thu, 01 May 2008 17:47:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-23016 good thing jerry jones picked up an extra corner in the draft good thing jerry jones picked up an extra corner in the draft

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-23009 Vox Veritas Thu, 01 May 2008 17:39:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-23009 It's all a ruse. Pacman has convinced the world that he's an ignorant, barely educated thug when the truth is that he is indeed a criminally insane super-genius intent on undermining the stripper industry. All of these comparatively minor skirmishes with the law are part of a carefully constructed plan to systematically convince every American that one Adam "Pacman" Jones is too dumb to pull anything off with any degree of success. Mission accomplished! Meanwhile, back at the Pac Cave, Pacman is busily concocting a plan to replace all "exotic dancers" in the country with "fembots" that are capable of shaking very literal "moneymakers"... moneymakers that dispense counterfeit money... counterfeit money that replaces the real money that rappers and society's ne'er-do-wells use to "make it rain" in strip clubs. It’s all a ruse. Pacman has convinced the world that he’s an ignorant, barely educated thug when the truth is that he is indeed a criminally insane super-genius intent on undermining the stripper industry. All of these comparatively minor skirmishes with the law are part of a carefully constructed plan to systematically convince every American that one Adam “Pacman” Jones is too dumb to pull anything off with any degree of success. Mission accomplished! Meanwhile, back at the Pac Cave, Pacman is busily concocting a plan to replace all “exotic dancers” in the country with “fembots” that are capable of shaking very literal “moneymakers”… moneymakers that dispense counterfeit money… counterfeit money that replaces the real money that rappers and society’s ne’er-do-wells use to “make it rain” in strip clubs.

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]]> By: darron01 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22983 darron01 Thu, 01 May 2008 16:36:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22983 How dumb do you have to be to be "framed" by Pacman Jones? Am I really supposed to believe that Jones is some kind of criminal super-genius who has managed to pull off his crime and then convince the police someone else did it? Seriously. The guy is a moron. The wheel might be spinning, but the hamster is most definitely dead. How dumb do you have to be to be “framed” by Pacman Jones?

Am I really supposed to believe that Jones is some kind of criminal super-genius who has managed to pull off his crime and then convince the police someone else did it? Seriously. The guy is a moron. The wheel might be spinning, but the hamster is most definitely dead.

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22965 Vox Veritas Thu, 01 May 2008 15:43:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22965 Agreed Kotite, I don't think any of those knuckleheads is smart enough individually or collectively to put together an elaborate story that can withstand scrutiny from the cops and courts. Not even with 100% cooperation from Edwards. Agreed Kotite, I don’t think any of those knuckleheads is smart enough individually or collectively to put together an elaborate story that can withstand scrutiny from the cops and courts. Not even with 100% cooperation from Edwards.

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22963 Vox Veritas Thu, 01 May 2008 15:40:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22963 I guess the description wasn't THAT good. There's no mention of an amputated arm in the "Declaration of Warrant/Summons". There IS mention of a "disabled arm", but that info allegedly came from Christopher Davis. If you read the Declaration again, police spoke to a woman that said that Edwards is her boyfriend, was in Vegas on the night in question, and that she had picked up money orders that were sent to Edwards from a "Crystal Gartrell". Crystal Gartrell is a friend of Christopher Davis, allegedly one of the "go betweens". I guess the description wasn’t THAT good. There’s no mention of an amputated arm in the “Declaration of Warrant/Summons”. There IS mention of a “disabled arm”, but that info allegedly came from Christopher Davis.

If you read the Declaration again, police spoke to a woman that said that Edwards is her boyfriend, was in Vegas on the night in question, and that she had picked up money orders that were sent to Edwards from a “Crystal Gartrell”. Crystal Gartrell is a friend of Christopher Davis, allegedly one of the “go betweens”.

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]]> By: Bill In DC http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22962 Bill In DC Thu, 01 May 2008 15:40:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22962 As I understand it our prisons are currently filled with totally innocent people, all of them. As I understand it our prisons are currently filled with totally innocent people, all of them.

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]]> By: VDogg http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22957 VDogg Thu, 01 May 2008 15:35:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22957 No Vox - but don't you agree it might help if he could at least speak a little bit more intelligently? Granted none of us knows exactly what happened that night and I am not judging here based on a short quote, but for arguements sake give me a break...obviously there is more than what has come out to this point and I agree with you that he was not pulled in as a suspected shooter based soley on the fact that Pac ID'd him...his explanation/defense makes him come off as a street thug so why would he expect be treated any differently in the court of public opinion as well as a court of law? No Vox - but don’t you agree it might help if he could at least speak a little bit more intelligently? Granted none of us knows exactly what happened that night and I am not judging here based on a short quote, but for arguements sake give me a break…obviously there is more than what has come out to this point and I agree with you that he was not pulled in as a suspected shooter based soley on the fact that Pac ID’d him…his explanation/defense makes him come off as a street thug so why would he expect be treated any differently in the court of public opinion as well as a court of law?

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]]> By: Kotite http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22936 Kotite Thu, 01 May 2008 15:14:31 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22936 Edwards said a good description from the real culprits made it easy. Edwards has distinct tattoos and an amputated arm. What is this, "The Fugitive?" I am having very serious doubts that Pacman has the mental capacity to implicate anyone of wrongdoing half as well as he implicates himself. He's no Meyer Lansky. Edwards said a good description from the real culprits made it easy. Edwards has distinct tattoos and an amputated arm.

What is this, “The Fugitive?” I am having very serious doubts that Pacman has the mental capacity to implicate anyone of wrongdoing half as well as he implicates himself. He’s no Meyer Lansky.

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]]> By: ravensboy1992 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22935 ravensboy1992 Thu, 01 May 2008 15:13:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22935 maybe if pacman doesnt get back in he can chill with brett favre this season and teach him theres more to do in life than ride john deere tractors,like make it rain in strip clubs. maybe if pacman doesnt get back in he can chill with brett favre this season and teach him theres more to do in life than ride john deere tractors,like make it rain in strip clubs.

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22929 Vox Veritas Thu, 01 May 2008 15:01:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22929 So VDogg, are you saying that if you can't or don't speak proper English you should not expect a fair shake in today's legal system? So VDogg, are you saying that if you can’t or don’t speak proper English you should not expect a fair shake in today’s legal system?

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]]> By: dlmcc0202 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22922 dlmcc0202 Thu, 01 May 2008 14:50:41 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22922 Now that is one of the more pitiful displays of bad English I have ever seen. For those defending him, the moral is simple. It is hard to take a person seriously when an adult talks like a 2 year old. I think Pacman Jones is a thug and a loser, but this guy doesn't sound too credible either. Florio is right, he has plenty to lose. Attempted murder is nothing to sneeze at Now that is one of the more pitiful displays of bad English I have ever seen. For those defending him, the moral is simple. It is hard to take a person seriously when an adult talks like a 2 year old. I think Pacman Jones is a thug and a loser, but this guy doesn’t sound too credible either. Florio is right, he has plenty to lose. Attempted murder is nothing to sneeze at

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22921 Vox Veritas Thu, 01 May 2008 14:50:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22921 Do you guys really think Pacman was the only witness? Also do you think the cops brought Pacman in to identify this guy just because Pacman said he was the shooter? He couldn't have ID'ed him by name, he apparently told the cops he didn't know who the guys was. Pretty obvious that the cops had more reason than Pac's word to believe this guy was the shooter. Do you guys really think Pacman was the only witness? Also do you think the cops brought Pacman in to identify this guy just because Pacman said he was the shooter? He couldn’t have ID’ed him by name, he apparently told the cops he didn’t know who the guys was. Pretty obvious that the cops had more reason than Pac’s word to believe this guy was the shooter.

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22917 Vox Veritas Thu, 01 May 2008 14:45:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22917 "he must of took emmitts english class" You "must have" taken the same class. “he must of took emmitts english class”

You “must have” taken the same class.

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]]> By: kwsbrother http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22912 kwsbrother Thu, 01 May 2008 14:35:41 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22912 ve to love how well our tax dollars are educating "we" Americans. ve to love how well our tax dollars are educating “we” Americans.

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]]> By: stabtabulous http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22908 stabtabulous Thu, 01 May 2008 14:24:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22908 are people seriously defending this douche's use of the english language?? are people seriously defending this douche’s use of the english language??

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]]> By: VDogg http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22909 VDogg Thu, 01 May 2008 14:24:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22909 I'm sure his collegiate career played heavily into constructing that triple negative in an intentional manner...and people like this wonder why they can't get a fair shake in today's legal system? Did we all understand him the first time we read thru it? I'm sure most everyone did, it doesn't make it ok. But hey the whole point to this section is to debate these issues so omelette this one slide... I’m sure his collegiate career played heavily into constructing that triple negative in an intentional manner…and people like this wonder why they can’t get a fair shake in today’s legal system?

Did we all understand him the first time we read thru it? I’m sure most everyone did, it doesn’t make it ok.

But hey the whole point to this section is to debate these issues so omelette this one slide…

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]]> By: Pschwenk http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22907 Pschwenk Thu, 01 May 2008 14:23:23 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22907 His language didn't reflect his intended statement. He obviously meant to say that he didn't extort anyone. His statement however, admits that he did in fact extort SOMEBODY, (i.e. "didn't extort nobody), but that extorted them out of "no money". (extortion is still a crime regardless of what is being extorted.) That being said, regardless of whether his language accurately expresses what he meant to say, his English is extremely poor and is fair game to be made fun of. p.s. The Philadelphia Eagles aren't going to lose a game in 2008 so hop on the bandwagon. His language didn’t reflect his intended statement. He obviously meant to say that he didn’t extort anyone. His statement however, admits that he did in fact extort SOMEBODY, (i.e. “didn’t extort nobody), but that extorted them out of “no money”. (extortion is still a crime regardless of what is being extorted.) That being said, regardless of whether his language accurately expresses what he meant to say, his English is extremely poor and is fair game to be made fun of.

p.s. The Philadelphia Eagles aren’t going to lose a game in 2008 so hop on the bandwagon.

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]]> By: gallaghedj311 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22901 gallaghedj311 Thu, 01 May 2008 14:17:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22901 tsk tsk with the name calling! The point here is the obvious fact that Edwards is very uneducated and that permits one to wonder about his credibility. Easily understood is an opinion. I've never heard of a triple negative before, thus I had to read what he said more than once since I didn't quite follow what he said. All I know is that it wasn't proper English, and he sounded like he probably had class in the basement, got out a half hour before all the other kids, and took the little yellow school bus to school. School that I would venture to say he probably dropped out of! tsk tsk with the name calling! The point here is the obvious fact that Edwards is very uneducated and that permits one to wonder about his credibility. Easily understood is an opinion. I’ve never heard of a triple negative before, thus I had to read what he said more than once since I didn’t quite follow what he said. All I know is that it wasn’t proper English, and he sounded like he probably had class in the basement, got out a half hour before all the other kids, and took the little yellow school bus to school. School that I would venture to say he probably dropped out of!

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]]> By: Ditkas Cigar http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22899 Ditkas Cigar Thu, 01 May 2008 14:15:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22899 Did you hear that??? That was a door slamming on any chance of Pacman returning to the NFL this year .... Maybe ever!!! Did you hear that???

That was a door slamming on any chance of Pacman returning to the NFL this year …. Maybe ever!!!

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22898 empty13 Thu, 01 May 2008 14:14:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22898 It is beyond me why anyone would take up for any of these reprobates. It is beyond me why anyone would take up for any of these reprobates.

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]]> By: r3 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22891 r3 Thu, 01 May 2008 13:54:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22891 It just kills me when pompous douche bags (that'd be you) like to tsk-tsk-tsk people for their grammar, even though their meaning is easily understood. In this case, though, you proved yourself to be a super-douche bag, because his statement was technically correct. "I definitely didn’t extort nobody out of no money." Didn't. Nobody. No money. That's a triple negative. Triple negatives are common in speech of African-Americans, Caucasians throughout Appalachia, and lots of folks who speak other languages. So while the statement may or may not be factually accurate, it accurately reflects his intended statement. So get off your high-horse. It just kills me when pompous douche bags (that’d be you) like to tsk-tsk-tsk people for their grammar, even though their meaning is easily understood. In this case, though, you proved yourself to be a super-douche bag, because his statement was technically correct.

“I definitely didn’t extort nobody out of no money.”

Didn’t. Nobody. No money. That’s a triple negative. Triple negatives are common in speech of African-Americans, Caucasians throughout Appalachia, and lots of folks who speak other languages. So while the statement may or may not be factually accurate, it accurately reflects his intended statement. So get off your high-horse.

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]]> By: PJW http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22890 PJW Thu, 01 May 2008 13:47:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22890 The guy is a one man daytime Soprano soap opera all by himself. There is way too much smoke coming out of all this for something not to be burning underneath. The guy is a one man daytime Soprano soap opera all by himself.
There is way too much smoke coming out of all this for something not to be burning underneath.

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]]> By: Scout http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22886 Scout Thu, 01 May 2008 13:43:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22886 Actually, it's a triple negative, so I guess he said what he meant. Actually, it’s a triple negative, so I guess he said what he meant.

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]]> By: Spinner721 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22885 Spinner721 Thu, 01 May 2008 13:43:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22885 When asked why he couldn't pass 3rd grade English, the allegedly framed shooter exclaimed, 'Me fail english? that's umpossible!' When asked why he couldn’t pass 3rd grade English, the allegedly framed shooter exclaimed, ‘Me fail english? that’s umpossible!’

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]]> By: ken13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22883 ken13 Thu, 01 May 2008 13:34:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22883 It's almost like someone threw a piece of cheese into a roomful of rats.....and said "Let's see who will be the most cutthroat, creative rats" LOL These guys should ALL be in jail It’s almost like someone threw a piece of cheese into a roomful of rats…..and said “Let’s see who will be the most cutthroat, creative rats” LOL
These guys should ALL be in jail

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]]> By: Eric http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22880 Eric Thu, 01 May 2008 13:32:37 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22880 A stunning display of the English language. A stunning display of the English language.

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]]> By: DonalMurphy http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22877 DonalMurphy Thu, 01 May 2008 13:27:37 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22877 Emmitt's genius. Emmitt’s genius.

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]]> By: jar94 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22869 jar94 Thu, 01 May 2008 13:15:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/01/minxx-shooter-says-pacman-framed-him/#comment-22869 he must of took emmitts english class and passed with flying colors he must of took emmitts english class and passed with flying colors

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