It’s the third year of the Eric Mangini-Mike Tannenbaum association in New York, and there now have been three veteran players who publicly have expressed dissatisfaction with their treatment.
First it was guard Pete Kendall. Next, receiver Laveranues Coles. The third man up is tight end Chris Baker.
But in each case there’s been something more than mere unhappiness projected. Each guy has claimed that promises were made, and that said promises ultimately were not honored.
“I’m angry about the fact that they said, ‘We’re going to do something for you,’ and nothing’s being done,” Baker recently said, according to the New York Post. “It doesn’t make any sense. I’ve been here six years and I’ve always done what they’ve asked me to do.”
And so the deeper question, in our assessment, is whether the players think they can trust the team. Three of them clearly don’t; two of them are still in the locker room.
Apparently, the organization made each of these guys believe that something was going to be done for them, and each of them decided that the organization failed to come through.
So what’s happening in New York? Is the left hand making promising checks that the right hand won’t write? Or are players misunderstanding casual comments like “you’re our guy” as commitments to increase their pay?
The problem has been amplified by the fact that the Jets spent money in free agency like guys who would naturally be inclined to spend money and who have recently ingested a beverage or a substance that might impair their judgment to a certain degree (there’s got to be a simpler analogy for that). The splurge came only a year after Tannenbaum cautioned that “there are consequences” to shelling out huge dollars to veterans who have never played a single down with the team.
The money spent on strangers to the team is only making things worse. In this specific case, it forced the Jets to trade back into the first round and (arguably) reach for tight end Dustin Keller, another guy who’ll get a nice pile of money despite never wearing a Jets helmet in his life.
We’re not sure how deep this river runs, but we can’t think of any other NFL franchise that has had three players call the franchise out as dishonest over the course of three decades; the fact that the Jets have had three in less than three seasons is troubling, to say the least.
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April 29th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
Frank G its not hard to find quotes of players that have ripped Mangini. The list is pretty high. But to satisfy you I did a quick google search and I found this quote from Dave Ball from last August after he was able to get himself out of NY.
“Thank God I out of there and I’ve got a fresh start here.”
If you do a search I sure you can find the same from Coles, Mawae, and many others ripping into Mangini.
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April 29th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Mangina is nothing but a Belichick wanna be. The Jets are trying to be the copy cats of the league. He’s always picking up New England leftovers. He’s a rat fink….nobody likes rat finks. How he ever got the name Mangenuis is beyond me….the knuckle head was trying to play a 3-4 when the team was built for and used for a 4-3. That’s like trying to fit a round peg in a square hole…moron.
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April 29th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Yeah, I heard of Faneca,the guy they paid a premium for at $40M with $21M in guarantees …a 32 year old player and the O line still sucked last year. They WAY overpaid because they played themselves with the sh*t they pulled with Kendall. That’s the whole premise of this story we’re commenting on. They spent like whores on some old talent this year (Damien Woody was benched in Detroit). So let’s see, roughly $8 million a year for Faneca, or $2.7 million to keep Kendall? Did Faneca give the Jets $5.3M more of productivity last year? No way. if they had stayed with Kendall we would have a ton of money that we could have used to lock down someone else they needed. What about the Tight End? How do you know that this kid is better than Baker…because he was drafted way too early at the tail end of the 1st round? Because the Jets put themselves in another shit*ty position…and traded away ANOTHER high draft choice they will need next year to get him?
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April 29th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Whether you believe Mangini was right or wrong for snitching on the guy who helped him go from BallBoy to HeadCoach, as Brian Billick indicated, there’s no team in the NFL who would ever trust him to come into their organization.
Heck, after last season the only reason Tannenbaum and Woody Johnson (*giggle*) don’t fire him is because they expect he’ll sing like a bird about every incident of tampering and other front office indiscretions, especially given Goodell’s crackdown.
And increasingly we see that players don’t trust him either - or they decide that they’re better off trying to blackmail the team into a trade.
The Jets are sometimes referred to as “Gang Green” but ever since bringing MangIdiot in, its seeming quite literally like gangrene, with the organization rotting from the inside out.
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April 29th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
I love how all the Pats fans are ripping Mangina for taking the Pats (and other teams in the division) free agents/trash. EVERY team does that. Welker, Eckel, and Hobson all came from division rivals.
Tank, you are an idiot. Faneca hasn’t played for the Jets yet, he was just signed this offseason. Who who knows whether he is worth it. It’s hard to imagine he could make the line any worse. If he plays better at his position in pass/run support, and supplies the necessary leadership in solidifying the line as a whole (which is something that Older offensive lineman have an advantage of over younger players/rookies), then it’s hard to put a dollar amount on that.
I’m not saying that the Jets are trustworthy, but to hear all these perceived Pats fans bashing the Jets for some of the very same things the Pats are doing, well that’s just ludicrous.
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April 29th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
You New Englanders are some angry little people.
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April 29th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Grulks, you’re the freakin’ idiot. Of course Faneca was just signed. What I should have said is will he give them 5.3 M more worth of productivity this year. So was the money they spent on Woody worth it?. They had to overspend this year for some of the stupid sh*t they pulled last year. Get it? Kendall wasn’t there? The O’Line sucked? They could of kept Kendall who was above average and all the extra money they spent on Faneca could have been used to address other needs. Now they pull the same crap with Baker and draft a Tight end way too high and give up a very high draft choice next year to do that.
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April 30th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Tank the more you write the worse you get.
I never disagreed with you on Woody, or Kendall. I simply stated you were an idiot for talking about how Faneca didnt give the Jets any better value after signing him, and that’s because everything you wrote pointed to how Faneca didnt improve the way the Jets O-line played in the 07 season. Of course, since Faneca was still with the Steelers in 07, every point you made in that respect is worthless since it is based on thigns that didnt happen.
Furthermore, Kendall was traded not because of his salary cap numbers, nor because of performance, but because he has been around so long he knows what the coaches can and can’t make players do in regards to the CBA. Mangini clearly didnt want a guy like that around, since he is the type of guy that will ignore those rules and make players do whatever he wants.
Regardless arguing with you is like getting a lobotomy. Once proven incorrect, you simply change what you are saying. Say even if I win, it’s still f’ing retarded.
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April 30th, 2008 at 11:08 am
Hey PFT Bloggers,
I think we need to take a step back.
The reality is the Jets haven’t won a thing since 1963(is that their title year?) and with a ManGyna and Tannenbum running the show, that streak will continue.
Jets fans, want to compete with the Patriots in the East?
1. Get rid of batman and Robin(Eric and Mikey)
2. Get a Quarterback
3. Stop giving $25million to players like Damian Woody
Its that simple.
jay…eeee…teee…eessss….JETS JETS JETS!!!
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April 30th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Grulks, you don’t have a clue. Kendall was traded because he went against the new regime and Mangini wanted to show who the alpha dog was, pure and simple. You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about because it was a DECISION BASED ON EGO, not for the good of the team. You also saw that I said I know Faneca wasn’t with the Jets and mis-wrote my comment so stop trying to hang on that sh*t. You’re also a moron, because this comment is the stupidest thing I ever heard (” but because he has been around so long he knows what the coaches can and can’t make players do in regards to the CBA ) that was the excuse for Mawae you idiot! I never said salary cap numbers either so stop trying to make sh*t up or drive things out of context to make you seem like you know what you’re speaking about. You’re a Mangini apologist pure and simple and NOBODY will get a point in when you’re on the board because the Jets can do no wrong. Take off the rose colored glasses you dope. Mangini will be gone in 09, bank on it. You can cheer on the next victim.
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April 30th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Wow, tank, you are right. Especially since you just said the same damn thing I did: Kendall knew the rules, and he wouldn’t accept what Mangini was trying to ram down the throat of players.
I wish I could be just like you. I would probably be so awesome that everyone would be knocking on my door to make me a GM. If they could get past my childesh rants, complete with yelling, screaming, and cursing.
For the record, I’m not a Mangini fan, apologist or supporter. I simply pointed out the things you said that were incorrect, and blatantly wrong. Obviously the child in you can’t handle someone saying (and later proving) you are wrong. It’s going to be a very sad sad world for you, until you learn to grow up.
Feel free to write back, argue all you want. I won’t be reading your comments, since in a battle of wits you are clearly completely and totally unarmed. I’d have better luck trying to have a discussion with a parked car.
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May 1st, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Hah! You’re out of your league chump…er, Grulks. At least you know when you’re beat. I will say you have an IQ slightly above that of room-temperature butter which makes trying to hold a decent argument with you kind of like kicking a cripple.
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