It’s the third year of the Eric Mangini-Mike Tannenbaum association in New York, and there now have been three veteran players who publicly have expressed dissatisfaction with their treatment.
First it was guard Pete Kendall. Next, receiver Laveranues Coles. The third man up is tight end Chris Baker.
But in each case there’s been something more than mere unhappiness projected. Each guy has claimed that promises were made, and that said promises ultimately were not honored.
“I’m angry about the fact that they said, ‘We’re going to do something for you,’ and nothing’s being done,” Baker recently said, according to the New York Post. “It doesn’t make any sense. I’ve been here six years and I’ve always done what they’ve asked me to do.”
And so the deeper question, in our assessment, is whether the players think they can trust the team. Three of them clearly don’t; two of them are still in the locker room.
Apparently, the organization made each of these guys believe that something was going to be done for them, and each of them decided that the organization failed to come through.
So what’s happening in New York? Is the left hand making promising checks that the right hand won’t write? Or are players misunderstanding casual comments like “you’re our guy” as commitments to increase their pay?
The problem has been amplified by the fact that the Jets spent money in free agency like guys who would naturally be inclined to spend money and who have recently ingested a beverage or a substance that might impair their judgment to a certain degree (there’s got to be a simpler analogy for that). The splurge came only a year after Tannenbaum cautioned that “there are consequences” to shelling out huge dollars to veterans who have never played a single down with the team.
The money spent on strangers to the team is only making things worse. In this specific case, it forced the Jets to trade back into the first round and (arguably) reach for tight end Dustin Keller, another guy who’ll get a nice pile of money despite never wearing a Jets helmet in his life.
We’re not sure how deep this river runs, but we can’t think of any other NFL franchise that has had three players call the franchise out as dishonest over the course of three decades; the fact that the Jets have had three in less than three seasons is troubling, to say the least.









April 29th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
would you trust a head coach that finked on his former boss?
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April 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Pete Kendall is a whiner were ever he has been. I would discount any comments he makes.
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April 29th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
the odds of 3 guys making the same claim and that claim being false are slim. that being said think about the 3 guys we are talking about. kendall got himself fired for complaining about practice being to hard in arizona. coles wanted more money from the jets 4 years ago so they traded him to washington. washington gave him what he wanted. that kept him happy for about 2 years. then he wanted more money so waashington traded him back to the jets, who again gave him more money. then he complains again and gets even more money from the jets. baker has te most legit beef of the 3 because he actually has out performed his contract. but now you are talking about a long term extention for a guy who never cought more than 41 passes in a year and never even came remotely close to a pro bowl. the jets should dump baker asap before this becomes kendall part 2.
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April 29th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Here is the mistake everyone is making in this.
Keller is going to be a slot/HB type player like Cooley or Gates or Dallas Clark. He will not take time away form Baker a traditional TE.
If Baker is upset about a contract, so be it, but to use the draftin of Keller as another reason to get upset is stupid.
Also, how is it a reach when you pick a guy who was rated as the #1 TE, a 20-25 pick and getting him at 30. Particularly when you need a player to stretch the field and expose the seam that is open against both a cover-2 and a 3-4, the defenses that the 2 most dominate teams in your conference paly.
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April 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Yea, at least the distrust with the Eagles comes from Banner being honest that he’s cheap and won’t redo any contract unless your jersey sells like #5 or #36, and even then you need to hold out.
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April 29th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Jets aren’t lookin’ so good.
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April 29th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
This all sounds very familiar. Right before Ty Law left the Patriots, he made almost the same claims. Wasn’t Mangini his position coach at that time? I would be interesting to know whether the “promises” made to Law at that time came from Bill or Mangini.
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April 29th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
NEHomer
If I was a player and my HC promised me more money I wouldn’t put too much into it (much less a position coach!)- BECAUSE THAT IS NOT HIS THING TO DO! Contracts is the business of the GM!
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April 29th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Try “inclined to spend money like a drunken sailor.” It’s a cliche, but efficient as analogies go.
Jets are toast. All 3 AFCE Bills are gonna piss on ‘em for years.
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April 29th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Magini is a rat and a liar. Can’t wait ’til he gets fired…no one is going to hire him.
Maybe Sesame Street will hire him again. That’s where he belongs…
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April 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Can you really blame the Jets for not extending the contracts?
It only opens the door for these players to act like Chad Johnson later down the line and demand yet another contract extension.
The only problem is that the Jets front office keeps telling them they will extend them.
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April 29th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
uh stout1759, yes he was the number one TE in the draft but he wasn’t a 20-25 prospect. He was more ranked among 40-45.
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April 29th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Mangini has a short history of character problems with the Jets.
1. Mangini cheated against the Colts in 2007. Substituting players in without letting the the Colts substitute defensive players in violation of the ethical agreement all coaches had. Because of Mangini’s actions not only did Dungy question Mangini’s ethics and integrity but the competition committee immediatley met within a few days and clarified the rule so Mangini could not do this again.
2. One will recall Mangini has been disiplined by the league for playing fast and loose with the injury report and for doing the same with depth chart disclosures.
3. We all know about Mangini ratting out NE to the league to gain himself a competitive advantage. While its hard to approve of what NE did its something everyone has been doing for a long time and there are better ways to handle it without becoming a snitch. Like Detroit and Green Bay handled the situation in 2007 and how NE handled it when the Jets did the same to them in 2007. Nothing lower in life than being a rat. Mangini showed his true colors here.
4. Mawae Mangini and Tanny booted him out because they felt threatened by him in 2007. He had a low contract and they saved virtually nothing (1.3 millon) by cutting him.
5. Kendall He was asked to take a pay cut to help the team in 2005 in return he was promised to recoup that that money. Again the ego of Mangini and Tannenbaum got in the way of integrity and the best interests of the team which then led to both sides sticking their heads in the sand.
6. Coles He was asked to restructure and again promises were made. The Jets again tried to play fast and loose with those promises. The difference here was that Coles is well liked and important part of the Jets locker room. After spending money on FA’s they had no choice but to honor their promise to Coles.
7. Baker He will be the third lowest paid tight end on the roster behind Bubba Franks and Keller. Can they snub him and lie to him? Keller cannot do Baker’s role and block. Is rank’s healthy and can he fill in for Baker? Possibly.
8. Look at all the players that have left the Jets in the last few years that have publicly called out Mangini and Tannenbaum. Its becoming quite a long list. This is a place that players and coaches simply do want to go near. Its all because of a lack of character and integrity on the part of Mangini and Tannenbaum.
9. Recall why Mangini and Belly had the problem. It was because Mangini stole files from the Pats office and tried to hire away Pats coaches.
Now lets look at last year. It was probably the owrst coaching job we have seen by a coach in the last decade. In 2007 the Jets won 10 games but look at how they won those games. The Jets played perhaps the easiest schedule a team will ever play. Almost every oppononet they played luckily was playing the worst football of the season when they played the Jets. Ie. Tennessee the first game of the season startiong Collins with less than a week of practice. Miami two games with Lemon’s first game and with harrington just starting and mired in a losing streak. The list goes on and on.
Move to 2007. The Jets lost 7-8 close games that they had no bisiness losing. All those losses they were one two plays away from winning. Mangini’s ego dictates that each game that he will show us how smart he is by calling some silly gadget play that almost never works. In 2007 the Jets refused to run the ball. The games they won they ran the ball. The games they lost they did not run the ball. Its that simple. Mangini does not understand when one has a bad defense and bad pass protection one has to run the ball to rest the defense and protect the QB even if it does not work. Team’s run the ball the first three quarters to run the ball and win the game in the 4th quater. Watch our games last year the Jets wore down every game in the 4th quater and lost because we were tired.
The Jets took 20 sacks on 2nd down last year because we refused to run the ball. The OL was not near as bad as people make it out to be it was simply the play calling. Run the ball more and our defense would have been much better, our passing game would have been better and we would have been a playoff contender.
The problem is Mangini’s ego gets in the way of everything he does. From simple play calling, to integrity issues like not ratting out your freinds, or honoring promises. The Jets failed in the draft this weekend to fill one big need and thats finding a Head Coach with character and integrity.
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April 29th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Man-gina is a big fat rat — and a liar, and fat.
And Tannenball is right behind him, pun not intended.
Prediction: Brian Billick will be coaching the NYJ in 09′
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April 29th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
This is all laughable. The real story is that Pete Kendall and Chris Baker stink and were replaced by good players whom the Jets gladly paid. This is a team headed in the RIGHT direction.
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April 29th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
hey “stout”
good point on te H-back role for keller, but rated a top 25 pick? even if you believe that, there is no tight end coming out of college that should ever be rated higher than the highest rated WR, especially keller, who can’t block spam from his inbox, let alone an NFL defensive end. he is slower than a WR, less agile than a WR, and can’t catch as well as a WR. the jets should have taken the highest rated receiver on their board. heck, malcolm kelly probably blocks better than dustin keller, draft him and line him up at H-back
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April 29th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Alert the media! An employer isn’t following through with a promised raise!!! Welcome to the real world pal. It happens everyday. most of the time, however, it’s regular folks living paycheck to paycheck trying to get ahead. I seriously doubt he has that problem.
This guy is just another Latrell Spreewell, “trying to feed his kids”. Apparently his kids eat millions of dollars worth of food.
Hey jerkoff, they don’t have to keep their promises. That’s why the have contracts. If it aint in writing; It doesn’t exist.
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April 29th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
itsacurese, help me out here, who are the two players that replaced Kendall and Baker and why are they better? And if you have some more insight tell me why Kendall and Baker “stink”. Factual stuff, not Jets fan emotional bullsh*t.
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April 29th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
I agree Patsback, Billik would be a great hire for the Jets. But I am not sure Billik would take the job. The Jets would have to can Tannenbaum as well. But the Jets problems go much deeper than the lack of character and integrity shown by Mangini and Tanny they lack football people with football contacts and knowledge.
The Jets need not only need to get rid of the kiddie crew and restore their credibility in the NFL. But they need to start acting like a football organization and hire football people with experience and reputation. The problem is Woody is cheap. he has refused to hire any coaches or GM’s with expereince rather he will only hire those from the bargain basement bin. He got Rid of Edwards because he wanted to paid like a normal NFL coach and he hired Mangini and Tanny because they were cheap.
One might recall that Tannenbaum along with Parcells got the Jets into cap hellwhich resulted in the destruction of the Jets franchise. Between 2002 and 2007 the Jets had to constantly shift their cap defecit out one year at a time. Remaning the Jets could not keep their own FA’s or sign any new players. With the new CBA last year the jets were finally able torecover from the mess Parcells and Tannenbaum got them in. Now Tannenbaum and Mangini are putting the Jets back on the cap hell road again. Oen might recall the Jets went thru 4 coaches in 2000-2001 and lost Bellichicken as copach because of the financial mess the Jets were in.
Letting Tannenbaum run the Jets finances has again enedangered the future of thsi team and its ability to hrie a better HC and GM. I do not see a positive future here. The only positive would be to clean house and over pay to being in real football men.
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April 29th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Mangini learned it all from his buddy Bill.
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April 29th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
I think PFT, and many others, resent the Jets for starting Spygate
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April 29th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Zinn
8. Look at all the players that have left the Jets in the last few years that have publicly called out Mangini and Tannenbaum. Its becoming quite a long list.
NAME ONE PLAYER??????
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April 29th, 2008 at 4:52 pm
tank, ever hear of alan faneca?
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April 29th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
This seems to run down party lines. NE fans and everyone else.
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April 29th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
I cant believe we are talking about the J-E-T-S, jets jets jets.
Sorry, any team that gives Damien Woody $25million should only feel sory for themselves. Nice Job Tannen-bum!
I will take “my hoodie” any day of the week.
And so would 30 other NFL franchises.
But would they want a Man-gyna?
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