Comments on: THE PFT OFFICIAL DRAFT GRADES http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:55:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Warrior Monk http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21908 Warrior Monk Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:41:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21908 Copout! I'd like the minute of my life back that it took to read that worthless "article." Copout!

I’d like the minute of my life back that it took to read that worthless “article.”

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]]> By: raidermot http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21801 raidermot Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:33:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21801 I do not get it. People say handing out draft grades today is stupid because you don't know how good a draft pick is for 3 years. Obviously, a draft grade today is the final word. Time will reveal how good any selection really is. Based on the information available at the time, you are grading is how good of a job that a team did on that day. Did they make smart trades? Was picking a turd in the 2nd round a good idea? The Raiders already have a pile of RBs. Was MacFadden a smart pick? Obviously, we are speculating. We are sports fans. We speculate all the time. No one says, "No point in talking about The Pats beating the The Giants in The Superbowl. We won't really know until after the game." I do not get it. People say handing out draft grades today is stupid because you don’t know how good a draft pick is for 3 years. Obviously, a draft grade today is the final word. Time will reveal how good any selection really is.

Based on the information available at the time, you are grading is how good of a job that a team did on that day.

Did they make smart trades?
Was picking a turd in the 2nd round a good idea?
The Raiders already have a pile of RBs. Was MacFadden a smart pick?

Obviously, we are speculating. We are sports fans. We speculate all the time.

No one says, “No point in talking about The Pats beating the The Giants in The Superbowl. We won’t really know until after the game.”

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]]> By: PFT Planet Idiot http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21792 PFT Planet Idiot Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:40:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21792 How can you grade a draft, let alone say the Rams tanked? Not one of these players has played a down in the NFL. Go back to when Ryan Leaf was drafted. Look at what the Chargers grade was for that draft. Everyone praised them for taking Leaf. Mel Kiper probably even said that "Ryan Leaf has a strong arm, great accuracy and good attitude." You cannot grade/evaluate a draft until after several years. you have to let the later round picks develop and then look back at who is still on the team and how they are performing. How can you grade a draft, let alone say the Rams tanked? Not one of these players has played a down in the NFL. Go back to when Ryan Leaf was drafted. Look at what the Chargers grade was for that draft. Everyone praised them for taking Leaf. Mel Kiper probably even said that “Ryan Leaf has a strong arm, great accuracy and good attitude.”

You cannot grade/evaluate a draft until after several years. you have to let the later round picks develop and then look back at who is still on the team and how they are performing.

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]]> By: VeggieBurgher http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21745 VeggieBurgher Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:34:03 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21745 like dsportsnut said, go ahead and grade it. we all know it's (mainly) bull, but it's still fun to grade. after all, people still disagree on how good a player was AFTER his career was over (favre, anyone?), so it will be an argument either way, but still fun to argue. besides, can't we all agree on some things, like the chiefs actually did pretty well and the rams actually kinda tanked (especially if the rumors about New ORleans offering a boatload of picks were true) like dsportsnut said, go ahead and grade it. we all know it’s (mainly) bull, but it’s still fun to grade. after all, people still disagree on how good a player was AFTER his career was over (favre, anyone?), so it will be an argument either way, but still fun to argue. besides, can’t we all agree on some things, like the chiefs actually did pretty well and the rams actually kinda tanked (especially if the rumors about New ORleans offering a boatload of picks were true)

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]]> By: PFT Planet Idiot http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21721 PFT Planet Idiot Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:18:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21721 All of the talking head experts grade the draft based on their own pre-draft evaluations. How can anyone take stock in what the TV people have to say, if they could really evaluate potential draftees they would be working for a team, not yapping on TV. All of the talking head experts grade the draft based on their own pre-draft evaluations. How can anyone take stock in what the TV people have to say, if they could really evaluate potential draftees they would be working for a team, not yapping on TV.

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]]> By: dsportsnut http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21708 dsportsnut Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:06:58 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21708 My advice - go ahead and grade the draft. It won't be any more accurate then your mock draft(s) but still provides interesting reading during the off season. My advice - go ahead and grade the draft. It won’t be any more accurate then your mock draft(s) but still provides interesting reading during the off season.

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]]> By: Ben Roethlisbunger http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21707 Ben Roethlisbunger Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:04:41 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21707 Wow, what a worthless article. This would be a lot more worthwhile if it were followed by: So for the next few weeks we will grade each team's 2005 draft, starting with the 49ers. We want to do one per day, but we all know how that goes. Wow, what a worthless article. This would be a lot more worthwhile if it were followed by:

So for the next few weeks we will grade each team’s 2005 draft, starting with the 49ers. We want to do one per day, but we all know how that goes.

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]]> By: ItsNolen http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21686 ItsNolen Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:39:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21686 Actually, Long will be making .17 Million dollars more than Russell per year... Actually, Long will be making .17 Million dollars more than Russell per year…

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]]> By: ButchD http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21649 ButchD Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:44:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21649 decent point on Miami, but, they lose that plus for drafting Henne. He will suck. The best they can hope for out of him is that just the fact that they drafted him motivates Beck to play well and win the job in camp. decent point on Miami, but, they lose that plus for drafting Henne. He will suck. The best they can hope for out of him is that just the fact that they drafted him motivates Beck to play well and win the job in camp.

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]]> By: halfbreed http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21643 halfbreed Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:39:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21643 "What we should be doing the Monday after every draft is peering a few years into the rear-view mirror and handing out grades for past draft classes. But such an exercise would conflict with the selling of hope." What's hope got to do with 3 year-old draft results? Man up and hand out the grades for 2005! “What we should be doing the Monday after every draft is peering a few years into the rear-view mirror and handing out grades for past draft classes. But such an exercise would conflict with the selling of hope.”

What’s hope got to do with 3 year-old draft results? Man up and hand out the grades for 2005!

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]]> By: Dennis http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21639 Dennis Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:28:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21639 I think the Dolphins should get an Incomplete Plus, for having the first pick locked down to a contract before the draft started, and a contract that was below the value of last year's number 1 pick. I think the Dolphins should get an Incomplete Plus, for having the first pick locked down to a contract before the draft started, and a contract that was below the value of last year’s number 1 pick.

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]]> By: hughes41ktfo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21637 hughes41ktfo Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:15:49 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21637 Haha I love it- Just a few weeks ago ESPN did a "redraft" of 2005 and all it did was show how inaccurate the grades can be. Haha I love it-

Just a few weeks ago ESPN did a “redraft” of 2005 and all it did was show how inaccurate the grades can be.

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]]> By: CMHBrownsFan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21636 CMHBrownsFan Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:12:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21636 Typo narrowly avoided on "fang" Typo narrowly avoided on “fang”

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]]> By: ButchD http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21630 ButchD Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:03:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21630 Amen. Some of these idiots still do it, trying to say 'based on current value' meaning if that particular grader thinks "well they could have gotten him a round later" . Which is complete BS because said grader cannot possibly be sure how long the guy would have lasted. Even trying to say basing it on team needs is seriously flawed. What good does it do to draft the next David Carr high in RD 1 just because you have a need at QB? Amen. Some of these idiots still do it, trying to say ‘based on current value’ meaning if that particular grader thinks “well they could have gotten him a round later” . Which is complete BS because said grader cannot possibly be sure how long the guy would have lasted.

Even trying to say basing it on team needs is seriously flawed. What good does it do to draft the next David Carr high in RD 1 just because you have a need at QB?

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]]> By: Tarken10 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21624 Tarken10 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:55:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21624 I concur, completely. (Sorry for the lengthy reply) I concur, completely.

(Sorry for the lengthy reply)

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]]> By: Mattmanus http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21622 Mattmanus Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:54:21 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21622 Dig it brother! As I call it, the crapshoot. Dig it brother! As I call it, the crapshoot.

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]]> By: cheeseheadken http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21621 cheeseheadken Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:53:41 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/28/the-pft-official-draft-grades/#comment-21621 Sounds great. So, why don't you grade the 2005 draft class? I'd be curious to know your thoughts. Sounds great. So, why don’t you grade the 2005 draft class? I’d be curious to know your thoughts.

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