Miami Dolphins G.M. Jeff Ireland, speaking at a post-draft press conference on Sunday, admitted that there were trade discussions last week regarding veteran defensive end Jason Taylor.
But Ireland denied that any such discussions were started by the Dolphins, contradicting published reports that the Dolphins were calling other teams to talk about a Taylor trade.
“No,” Ireland said regarding whether the Dolphins initiated any talks. “We took some calls earlier in the week, but really nothing has changed on that. You can put an end to it. Nothing’s changed. Our stance is nothing’s changed.”
Ireland specifically named the Jaguars as a team with whom the Fins discussed a Taylor trade. Putting two and two together, Ireland is basically saying that the Jags called the Fins about a Taylor trade.
According to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio acknowledged the discussions. “We talked, they had a certain price in mind and nobody in the league was interested in that price,” Del Rio said.
Despite a Saturday report in the St. Petersburg Times that a trade of Taylor to Tampa was in the works, Bucs G.M. Bruce Allen said on Sunday that “[t]here were no conversations about that.”
But even though the Dolphins weren’t able to get what they wanted on draft day for Taylor (which, as many believe, was as much as a first-round draft pick), it doesn’t mean that he won’t be traded, either for a veteran player or for one or more picks in the 2009 draft. The co-owner of the team, Wayne Huizenga, said on Saturday that Taylor “deserves” a chance to play for a team that will provide him with a chance to go to the Super Bowl.
(So much for the possibility in the modern NFL of a bad team having a stunning turnaround. We wonder whether the Tuna appreciates the confidence that his boss is demonstrating in the program.)
Meanwhile, we can’t help but also wonder why the Jaguars didn’t send their first-round pick to Jacksonville for Taylor, given that they used their first-round pick and two third-round picks and a fourth-round pick to get in position to land Florida defensive end Derrick Harvey. If the goal is to win a Super Bowl in the short term, Taylor gives them much better odds than an unproven rookie.
Then again, the other factor in all of this would be Taylor’s contractual expectations. Though he is signed through 2009 (at salaries of $7.5 million this year and $8 million next year), Taylor likely would want an extension, along with a guaranteed payment in excess of $20 million. And it would be very prudent to have that deal in place before any trade goes through. Otherwise, Taylor and his agent, Gary Wichard, would have the ultimate leverage after a team gives up a first-day draft pick or a veteran player; they could take the position that if the new team doesn’t make Jason happy, he’ll just retire.
So if the process of working out a trade began in earnest just last week, there simply wasn’t enough time to take care of both fronts that the Jags or any other team would have to address in order to make the trade happen.
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April 28th, 2008 at 9:15 am
I thought the same thing when i saw what Jax “paid” in picks to move up to grab a Harvey. I think now they’re going to go back to Taylor and tell him play for us and, if we’re not in contention by the trade deadline, we will trade you to someone that is.
They could also be waiting to see if someone blows out a knee in training camp or leading up to the deadline (or someone retires *Strahan anyone?*.)
Teams aren’t desperate until an injury happens. Maybe not drafting a WR or CB in the draft could lead to us trading Taylor away for a CB or WR, or acquiring both via trades (Lito Sheppard and Chad Johnson?). Perhaps Taylor would be a great fit in Cinci. A great moral leader and veteran leader.
I’m not sure what the situation looks like in Dallas, but to reunite him with Zach could work out.
Either way, i think they’ll hold onto him until, at the latest, the trade deadline. Or at the earliest, until someone goes down with a significant injury and another team panics.
guess i got a little redundant there, oops!
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April 28th, 2008 at 9:19 am
“Meanwhile, we can’t help but also wonder why the Jaguars didn’t send their first-round pick to [Miami] for Taylor, given that they used their first-round pick and two third-round picks and a fourth-round pick to get in position to land Florida defensive end Derrick Harvey. If the goal is to win a Super Bowl in the short term, Taylor gives them much better odds than an unproven rookie.”
Um, maybe the goal isn’t to go to the Super Bowl this year, maybe the goal is to be competetive EVERY year and not load up using past-their-prime players who are demonstrating themselves to be malcontents.
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April 28th, 2008 at 9:59 am
Taylor could still end up in Jax. He’s gonna be 34 on opening day. That’s why the Jags went the route they did. They assessed JT, Jared Allen and even potential Julius Peppers trade proposals and didn’t wanna give up the farm to acquire these guys. In the end, they went with the move they were most comfortable with. Harvey had a sick Pro Day and the Jags feel they got a DE that will be a Jaguar for the next decade. It’s still a young man’s game. Harvey has the attitude and potential to blossom into a Pro Bowler. Second guessing moves the day after the draft is all opinion anyway. Add Groves to the conversation and the most skeptical of Jags fans has a lot to chew on. There’s tremendous upside potnetial to both of these guys. Their success or lack thereof will determine whether or not this was a good draft for Jacksonville.
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April 28th, 2008 at 10:02 am
I have to agree with samh here. I think the Jags (and their fans) will be happier taking multiple runs at the playoffs over the next few/several years rather than one or two before Taylor heads back to Hollywood.
However I also think Harvey and Groves could benefit from a veteran like Taylor, so if they could somehow land Taylor in addition to their pickups in the draft without sacrificing too much more, next season could be very interesting for Jags fans.
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April 28th, 2008 at 10:03 am
I agree… keep JT until a team needs him. We got a 2nd rounder out of Chris Chambers last season, and he was nowhere near worth that.
I’d rather see JT retire as a Dolphin, be it this season or down the line, but if he’s going to be traded, wait until the demand is higher.
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April 28th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Why would any team give a 1st round pick for JT? At this point in his career? The guy has been great, no contesting that fact. But he’s earning $7M. Helloooo….you can get a youngster and tie him up up for 4 years…he won’t be Jason Taylor in his prime but serviceable I’m sure. I’d give a 3rd round (conditional of course) for him.
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April 28th, 2008 at 11:54 am
All these “know it alls” think the Dolphins should trade Taylor just because he would help another team. He is still at the top of his game and the Dolphins only have a duty to look out for the Dolphins, not the Jaguars or the Bucs, etc.
If a team wants a (still) premier DE and pass rusher, then the Dolphins should hold out for a top price (at least a 1st round pick), otherwise the Dolphins should keep the best D-Lineman they’ve ever had through his final 4+ years of top level productivity.
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April 28th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Jason Taylor needs to decide whether he wants to dance or play football. Sure, Jerry Rice and Emmit Smith did it, but Jason Taylor is still considered the Miami Dolphins’ starting DE. Stick to football Jason.
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April 28th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Everyone needs to leave Jason alone for deciding to do dancing with the stars. The man is a seasoned Venteran that has been through a string of new coaches and rebuilding years. He knows the deal and I am sure as soon as he gets back to training camp he will continue to be the strength and leader of this defense and team. He knows what he is doing and I don’t knock him at all for trying to prepare himself for a life after football since he won’t be playing for many more years. I am personally happy that he is still a dolphin and that he is having a good time during the offseason since they are going to have a rough rebuilding year ahead of them. The team needs him! And I hope he retires as a dolphin for my own selfishness.
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