Bengals coach Marvin Lewis acknowledged today that there’s “a risk” associated with selecting fifth-round draft pick Jason Shirley of Fresno State, who was off most teams’ draft boards because of his long history of off-field trouble.
“It’s a little bit of a risk, yes,” Lewis said. “There’s a lot of guys who have gone over the last two days with more substantial things hanging over their heads.”
According to the Cincinnati Enquirer, Shirley acknowledged today that he has a trial pending on two counts of driving under the influence and one count of hit-and-run.
“I have a court date May 21. And right now, everything’s going kind of smooth. I can’t really get into the details about it, as advised to me by my lawyer, but it’s going smooth,” Shirley said. “It’s looking real good, and hopefully I can get that expunged off my record.”
The Bengals are unique among NFL teams because of their 10 player arrests over 14 months in 2006 and 2007 — they know they’re not going to get the benefit of the doubt when they collect players of questionable character. So given that, why draft Shirley? Was he really so much better than the next-best player on the Bengals’ board that drafting him was worth the headaches associated with his off-field problems? When will the Bengals learn not to draft guys who show up to team headquarters and answer questions with “hopefully I can get that expunged off my record”?
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April 27th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
This is a team with no clue…no wonder Chad wants out.
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April 27th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
And that’s why they’re called “The Bungles” in most circles. Simply an indefensible pick by an organization that ill afford to waste a pick on a guy with that many red flags on his resume.
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April 27th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Marvin Lewis is a piece of garbage. He’s assembled a team of garbage. He derserves every last bit of stress and criticism aimed at him…
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April 27th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
The Enquirer also noted that 4 of the first 8 players taken were team captains last year. So they’re not all turds. Maybe half of them are turds.
and as of now, Cinci’s last pick is in and it’s *another* WR, Mario Urrutia. 3 WRs and a TE… as a fan all I hope they do is bring some game, because it looks like housecleaning time at Paul Brown Stadium.
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April 27th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
When will they ever learn? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, the Bungles!
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April 27th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
The Bengals drafted a lot of character guys such as Rivers today. They decide to give a chance to one out of 10. That is not so bad. There are a lot of guys who were drafted today with worse problems, yet you are not jumping on the teams that drafted them. There are a lot of teams that have had more arrests than the Bengals in the last 12 months. (Broncos and Titans for starters). Yet you want to jump on the Bengals yet again because it’s the easy thing to do. You’re taking it way over the top.
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April 27th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Hmmmm….seems like Brad Childress just traded the farm, and a mountain of cash, for a guy with 2 DUI’s. Marvin, of whom I’m not a big fan, spends a 5th round pick and he’s a piece of garbage? C’mon RJ. Easy with the dramatics. And anyone who, KY, insinuates that Chad Johnson has a clue should have his posting ability revoked!
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April 27th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Florio missed out on a headline: Shirley You Jest!
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April 27th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
The Saints moved up 2 spots to leapfrog the Bengals and take a DT. Wonder if this is why the Bengals were swayed into taking this one.
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April 27th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
So Florio, can a team draft turd points?
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April 27th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Let me get this straight: Dallas signs Tank, the gun collector, and trades for the Pacman and they get a pass yet the Bengals draft a guy with a court date and they don’t have a clue? A lot of people have screwed up thinking and most of them are NOT Bengals. And, riddle me this, Batman: when was the last time you saw a Bengal on the Turd Watch here on PFT?
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April 27th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
I guess it would be different if the Bengals didn’t make a habit of drafting these “thugs” every year, but they have.
If the Bengals scouting department is that pathetic that they didn’t know about his record it’s one thing. If they knew about his record and still drafted him it’s another thing.
The point Florio is making why risk the headache and possible media backlash.
I am looking forward to Christian Peter type fiasco where the Bengals are forced to cut him in the next 10 days. That or Lewis and or GM gets fired.
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April 27th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
This guy didn’t just a DUI …..he drove thru a friggin house !
http://player.clipsyndicate.com/view/3564/557258?cpt=8&wpid
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April 27th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
The new disciplinary rules allow Goodell to fine teams who consistently have players who get into trouble and bring the League into disrepute. Maybe it’s time he start exercising that power. Only then will teams get a clue that drafting these guys — no matter how allegedly good on the field — is just not worth it.
BTW, is Shirley now subject to League discipline for that little undisclosed DUI arrest with accompanying trial?
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April 27th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Jerramy Stevens had a few DUIs and a hit and run; I wonder if this guy spells the the day before Sunday “satterday,” ever sent a taunting e-mail to a girl he raped, or stomped on a dude who was just whacked in the head with a bat by one of his friends. If so, Gruden has a spot in Tampa if the Bengals cut him.
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April 27th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
We could be fair and wait for him to get in trouble as a pro before we start critisizing. Maybe getting draft opened his eyes and changed his life. Just look at what it did for Maurice clarett… oh yeah good call.
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April 27th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
I like the Bengal fan going through and voting 1/5 on all the critical comments. Don’t shoot the messangers, dude.
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April 27th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
If your kid gets a DUI or waives a gun while running around his limousine and you blame it on football then you’re a terrible parent. Other than that argument, who really cares? Seriously, get over yourselves. Amen to the Raiders/Cowboys etc. getting a free pass. What’s that about? Not to mention Shirley has a trial pending–so its nice that you guys have convicted him already. That will save us tax dollars with that pesky right to trial.
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Seriously folks, spending a fifth round pick- one out of nine picks overall, on a guy with a huge upside sounds more like a calculated risk than part of some overall trend. There are plenty of things wrong with the Bengals- the way Mike Brown refuses to hire a GM, Marvin’s seeming wussiness, Chad Johnson’s ridiculous ego, their refusal to take two first round picks for the problem child, and 17 horrible years of a poor excuse for a football team. This is not one of them. Shirley screws up, they send him packing. He’s been told that going in. It’s nothing but a roll of the dice.
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
here is another example of what’s wrong with the nfl. every year during the draft, teams talk about how they are going to stay away from players with red flags, but every year there are teams like the bengals that draft thugs. it is sad that in the nfl, thugs are more welcomed then players with mental illnesses although most mental illnesses could be treated with medication. her for example is a team that has been trying to get a strong pass rushing defensive end, but leaves tommy blake off their draft board due to his depression. these teams are more affraid to take a chance that a draft pick might end up being another ricky williams, but they don’t care if another player ends up being a mike vick. there are more upsides for an individual like blake considering that the team could add a stipulation in a contract that if the player didn’t take his mental health meds then he could be dismissed from the team with no financial obligation.
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April 27th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Dallas gets the guys on their last chances you idiot. Not before. That is why you will never learn. And the fans are apologists which is even sicker.
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Shirley blew a .12 ….. and left the scene of an accident after crashing into a house. If he beats the charges…it doesn’t mean he isn’t guilty….he just had a good lawyer.
And…if Shirley made it to his house or whatever before the cops got him….he will beat the DUI. Even Florio could get him off on that one.
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Everyone has an opinion on this. I just think if you are Marvin Lewis there is no way you can justify this pick. But at least he is doing his way. It may get him bounced but like Frank he’s doing it his way.
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Too bad the Jaguars didn’t take a DT, they could have “partially validated” the Bengals pick.
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
What part of 10 players arrested in 14 months do you not see as bad? I’m also confused by the posters who think the bengals are compariable to the Cowboys & Raiders.
I love the Bengals fan who has the 1 out of 10 isn’t bad attitude….. ha ha ha.
Shirley deserves a fair shot at the NFL.
I’m all for 2nd chances, but it’s hilarious that the team that gave him a 2nd chance was the Bengals of all teams.
If I was CJ I would take it to the media and throw it back at M. Lewis. Spin the story that you can’t keep playing for the same team that recruits new thugs each season and jepordizes the lives of the good people of cincy. That would add a great twist to the drama
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