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Somehow, we missed this one.
But it’s better never than late. Or something.
A reader pointed out to us today a list of Wonderlic scores showing Michigan receiver Mario Manningham generating a Vince Young-style six on the test.
A six. Out of 50.
We checked with a league source who has access to the numbers and, lo and behold, Manningham indeed got a six.
For the former Michigan receiver, it’s another glob of lard that will grease his slide to the second day of the draft. Other knocks on Manningham include a sssslow time in the 40 and a failure to admit during interviews at the Scouting Combine the fact that he failed at least one marijuana test in college.
Manningham thereafter wrote a letter to all teams apologizing for his prevarication (thanks, Tiki). But maybe Manningham merely should have explained the falsehood by pointing out, “What did you guys expect? I got a six on the Wonderlic.”
April 25th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Yes, he is stupid. You don’t get a 6 out of 50 after going through 12 years of public school and 3 years of college.
But the test isn’t easy. It’s doable for a intelligent person, but it’s not easy. This is by no means an excuse for him, because if he showed up for class anytime in his life, and/or stopped smoking weed, he’d have doubled his score. But God only gave him so much to work with in the brains department.
Check out some sample questions:
http://www.testprepreview.com/wonderlicpracticequestions1.htm
http://www.testprepreview.com/wonderlicpracticequestions3.htm
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April 25th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Somebody should have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express….
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April 25th, 2008 at 11:33 am
Possible nicknames:
Mario “Maam here’s your ham”
Mario “Tom Bodett” Manningham
Mario “Jenna von Oÿ”… she played the character “Six” on “Blossom”?
A freaking 6… more proof marijuana causes drain bamage.
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April 25th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Most of these guys don’t graduate.
As for Michigan being a fine academic institution, yes but….
I have a few friends who were scholarship athletes in college, and one went on an offical recruiting trip to Michigan. When he sat down with the academic advisor, and noticed the big, red “ATHLETE” stamp on the top of his application, his questions about his qualifications were answered.
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April 25th, 2008 at 11:51 am
and Rich Rod is going to lower the standards at U-M ??
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April 25th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Haha.. No one ever said that just because kids are good atheletes, they are also good citizens and/or smart… It amazes me that these kids (who score so poorly on intelligence exams) manage to remain academically eligible during their college careers. Oh wait.. 1/4 of FSU’s team was suspended for cheating.. I’d imagine its as bad or worse at other schools.
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April 25th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
I was wondering how Mario made it through the fine academic institution of Michigan…..
I found this interesting site …here’s a sample…
Quarterback Chad Henne, wideout Mario Manningham, hockey player Chad Kolarik and softball ace Jennie Ritter are just a few of the Wolverines who have taken independent studies with Hagen, as have Jake Long and Shawn Crable, two of the captains on last season’s football team.
When asked what they learned in Hagen’s courses, some athletes described being taught how to take notes, use a day planner, make a calendar and manage their time.
In many cases, athletes said the main content of these courses was study skills and time management, although Hagen called the material “learning styles.”
I found this at blackshoesdiaries.com…..take it for what it worth but it is a starting point….
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April 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Dear PFT Nation,
MAN — that guy is DUMB!!!
Sincerely,
A sack of hammers
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April 25th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
“Do you want fries with that?”
-Mario Manningham 2012
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April 25th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
I have taken the Wonderlic test, and I just want to clear up some misconception that some of you have. First of all, not every question is multiple choice. There are several math questions that require calculations and a written answer.
Secondly, not all the questions are as easy as the sample questions that are typically presented. The test gets progressively harder as you go along. The last 10 questions are significantly harder than the first 10.
The test is also timed. The longer you take to calculate or ponder a question, the fewer questions you will be able to answer. Very few people will have time to answer more than 30 or 35 questions.
I am not the brightest guy, but I was able to score a 31. I did get every question that I answered correct, but I ran out of time. I also think that I probably could have done a little better, if it were not the first time that I had taken this type of test. These guys are usually prepped by their agents, so that they are familiar with that type of test, and how to take it.
I find it hard to believe that anyone with any sense, could score below a 10. It tells me that either the guy didn’t try very hard, or that he doesn’t read very well. It’s possible that some of these guys who score very low have something like dyslexia, or a reading comprehension problem.
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April 25th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
wow, I never saw that type of course offered at the University of Tulsa… sh*t I shoulda just gone to michigan! haha
but yeah, that sample wonderlic is EASY. Even with the time constraints it’s just bloody easy. I honestly think anything less than 15 (out of the full 50) is functionally retarded. I cannot fathom how anyone could ever get a six unless they just flat cannot read. According to the wackypedia article, Wonderlic says a score of 10 represents “Literate”
I guess neither vince nor mario can read…
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April 25th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
LOL @ dolfan565 … “brain damage” would imply that he had intelligence at one time, then lost it.
I guess it’s also pretty safe to infer that you’re not too bright yourself, and can’t seemingly fall back on your “marijuana” excuse for it. You’re just plain dumb by nature.
(and not at all funny either, sorry)
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April 25th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
I know a low wonderlic score doesn’t translate to a low football IQ, but c’mon, a six??? Everyone has seen sample wonderlic questions and they are like 6th grade-level SAT questions. That’s pretty embarrasing.
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April 25th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Yea I’m not expecting these guys to score 40s on the test, but I think anything below 20 is pretty embarassing, and below ten is just attrocious.
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April 25th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Don’t talk to me about the 44 he didn’t get right. What about the ones he DID get right?
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April 25th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Wow. That is really bad.
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April 25th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Average scores in the NFL:
* Offensive tackle - 26
* Center - 25
* Quarterback - 24
* Guard - 23
* Tight end - 22
* Safety - 19
* Linebacker - 19
* Cornerback - 18
* Wide receiver - 17
* Fullback - 17
* Halfback - 16
Average scores for the rest of us:
* Chemist - 31
* Programmer - 29
* Journalist - 26
* Sales - 24
* Bank teller - 22
* Clerical worker - 21
* Security guard - 17
* Warehouse - 15
Average scores in the animal kingdom:
* Slug - .3
* Clever salmon - 4
* Talking horse - 7
* Yeti - 10
via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonderlic_Test
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April 25th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
how on earth do these guys then go on to learn dictionary-length playbooks with all that jargon? I guess the learning styles are different, you only focus on the part of the play that pertains to you, or you Chad Johnson it and run your own routes.
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April 25th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Wonder if you could just select the 1st answer to each multiple choice and score higher than a 6?
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April 25th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
It is not a mulitple choice test….
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April 25th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Maybe his wondelic results will reflect what round he gets drafted in
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April 28th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
The raw score that equates to an IQ of 100, is around 22. The average IQ of people whose ancestors are from sub-saharan Africa, is about 85. The Wonderlic score of 6 would put this Mannigham character just a little below average for that ethnic group. Some colleges adhere to standards of intellectual ability needed for admission. Several good examples would be Harvard, or the US Air Force Academy. The fact that this individual gained admission to an institution of “higher learning” reflects poorly on the college University of Michigan.
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