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At a time when plenty of teams are rumored to be interested in trading up in the draft, the Green Bay Packers are believed to be hoping to move down, in order to pick up extra picks.
In a draft that is deeper than it is top-heavy, it makes sense to get as many picks as possible. Since the draft is a crapshoot, the prudent approach is to, um, shoot as much crap as you can.
Currently, the Packers hold the 30th overall pick in round one. They might be able to trade down with a team that is hoping to nab a quarterback before teams like the Dolphins, Falcons, and Chiefs are in position to use their second-round selections.
April 24th, 2008 at 10:28 am
So it seems that 5 of the ten teams in the 5 - 15 range as well as virtually ALL the teams in the 21-31 range of the 1st round are looking to trade down. How is that going to work?
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April 24th, 2008 at 10:28 am
As a packer fan, I know that this has been Ted Thompsons thing all along. He even said recently that he would guess the packers would end up with 10 picks so there you go. I have no problem with it as long as he feels the talent is there later on. It has certainly worked so far.
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April 24th, 2008 at 10:34 am
if you follow the packers, this is the shocker of the century!!…pfft, this is as news worthy as “A Mexican Crossed the Border Today”.
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April 24th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Yep, I agree with nxtgrtreceiver. Trading down has been TT’s MO since he’s come, and so far so good. Unless one of the top shelf CB’s drops to 30, I’d really like to see them move back and pick up some more picks.
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April 24th, 2008 at 10:46 am
i would prefer this actually, and i second cheeseheadken’s take on the CB deal. mcrowel you hit it on the head, although i dont think they ever cross just one at a time.
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April 24th, 2008 at 10:47 am
I like how you comment that draft is a crap shoot and it’s prudent to shoot as much crap as possible, but then go on and on that trading 3 “crap shoot” picks for one of the best defensive ends in the game is a steep price and very high risk.
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April 24th, 2008 at 10:57 am
I like Ted’s approach…….with the 30th pick, the chance of a player making an immediate impact is unlikely. You might as well trade down and collect a few extra picks. He has had success in the middle rounds with players like Jennings, Jones, Jolly & Rouse.
TE & CB are the need picks for the Packers. Justin King CB from Penn St & John Carlsen TE from ND are 2 guys that might be a good fit.
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April 24th, 2008 at 11:00 am
This just in: The Sun Rose In The East Today. More news at 11:00.
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April 24th, 2008 at 11:05 am
mcgarnicle its an obvious high risk because this guy is one booze cruise after a baptism(hilarious) from being suspended by the league. it may not be SUCH a huge risk if it were another team but minnesota has a record(and is starting to build a reputation) of violations and players being all around idiots( international waters? c’mon). bryant mckinney could be suspended and we all know how the infamous heschel walker debacle ended up. oh yeah just thought i would throw this out there- the vikes suck.
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April 24th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
I agree there’s lots of risk in the Allen trade, but if you come from the philosophy that draft picks are crap shoots then trading a bunch away for a good player shouldn’t be precieved as a steep price. Unless Florio has a genuine hate on for the Vikes…
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April 24th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Packer fans make me laugh. TT’s plan is to acquire players and then once they develop, trade them away. It’s all about the money. Without Favre, this franchise is heading back to the ice age-not the ice bowl. Why wouldn’t you trade draft choices for proven playes than can help now? TT won’t do it because it’s about the dollar. Sorry packer backers-you’re in for a long decade or two….
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April 24th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
A year or two ago, I would have said “no!”
But now, seems like whatever Thompson drafts, becomes a starter or a significant contributor.
My only concern is, we lost Corey Williams, Bubba Franks, and Brett Favre. I can forsee DeShawn Wynn, Noah Herron, and maybe Jarrett Bush being cut in training camp next year. So that leaves about 5 or 6 roster spots next year that the rookies can fill. We already have 8 picks, and surely, Ted Thompson will get like 10 or 11 picks out of here. He’ll likely have to cut some people.
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April 24th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
I hate to say it, but even as a Vikings fan I don’t believe the Packers are in that bad of a situation. They still have a very talented defense. I still think they are very strong. Aaron Rogers will be a big question mark. But, he has had his time to develop. The question is whether or not they have developed him into an NFL ready quarterback. I do think however this seasons match-ups between the Pack and Vikes will be very good games.
But, overall Ted Thompson has done very well bringing in new players. Not to mention that guy named McCarthy who is one of the best coaches in the NFL.
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April 24th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Trading down and getting multiple picks is smart when a team is rebuilding and needs to infuse the team with talent, which is where the Packers were a couple of years ago.
Once you have a good team the next thing to do is upgrade the talent. This goes back to Minnesota’s trade for Jared Allen giving up three guys who would be part-time starters or role players for immediate impact (quality over quantity).
Why would the Packers trade down for multiple picks. If they end up with 10 draft choices, several of them will have to be cut in the preseason anyways. Then what, draft a LB in the 6th round to replace the LB they drafted in the 6th round last year? Or draft a OL in the 4th round to replace the OL drafted in the 4th round last year? Is that really going to improve the team?
Why not package some picks to move up and get better players than they could by standing pat or trading down? Otherwise, you’re not upgrading, your just changing players of equal talent.
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April 24th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
bgman, who should TT take with the 30th overall pick? why wouldnt he trade down? this years draft is not all that great. and although history dictates that TT doesnt trade up who is to say that he could get a second and a third for the #30, put those together with the 2 they already have in the second round and move up that way? TT has shown himself to be a great NFL draft mind, and by the way he is reigning GM of the year. whatever he does i hope it either appears more successful than the harrell pick of last year, or ends up being a good pick.
also, lets imagine that rogers stays healthy/doesnt get injured. how bad ass of a team will GB STILL have! i havent really heard much discussion on how good the pack can be if rogers stays healthy, its all been about just IF he can. so for a moment lets pretend like he didnt break his foot late in that one game, or hurt his hammy in practice after a great showing in dallas. rodgers has good mobility, is tall(i believe he is 6′6?) has a very good arm, and showed signs of being pretty smart. i will save all you vikes fans some time and bring up the point that all we have to go off of is 2+ quarters of regular season football, and a few preseason games from last year, but in those games he looked more than just fine. now lets bring up the fact that in those 2+quarters of regular season ball, he came into a game against a team who was widely viewed at the time to be the best in the nfc, and looked great. THE PACKERS didnt even miss a beat(in fact they improved) going from favre to rodgers in that game, and the thing everyone needs to remember is that rodgers is stepping into a fantastic situation with a very good TEAM. its really as easy as this, if the packers can run the ball like they did inthe second half of the season this year, they will be in great shape to make another good playoff run.
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April 24th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Packer fans make me laugh. TT’s plan is to acquire players and then once they develop, trade them away. It’s all about the money. Without Favre, this franchise is heading back to the ice age-not the ice bowl. Why wouldn’t you trade draft choices for proven playes than can help now? TT won’t do it because it’s about the dollar. Sorry packer backers-you’re in for a long decade or two….
Well- at least we’re not cheaters…….
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April 24th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
patriots fans obviously need to follow the lead of Matt Walsh and record the games and watch them again so they know what they’re actually talking about. The reason why the Packers succeeded this year is due to the fact Favre actually played controlled ball within the confines of McCarthy’s game plan.
Look at the Favre meltdowns this year. He went loosey freakin’ goosey in Dallas only to have Rodgers step in and execute the offense to the “T”, almost pulling out a win. The Chicago cold weather game made Favre look old and the immortal Kyle Orton look like a some character out of “True Grit”.
Favre is a first ballot HOFer and I love the guy to death but all the hand warmers falling out of his uniform and face mask in the NFCCG made him look like he exploded kleenex all over the field. I was scanning the field for errant jars of Vicks Vapo Rub.
So, to sum up Mr. Microphone, the Packers have a first round talent QB that’s had 3 years to develop behind a HOFer, 2 years to work with one of the better QB coaches in the league in Mike McCarthy (the guy responsible for Aaron Brooks’ and Rich Gannon’s success). You’ve also got a GM that has been solid in drafting for McCarthy’s style of play and finally putting together a solid defense and smart enough to trade a 6th round pick for some scrub called Ryan Grant.
When the Packers make it to the Superbowl, it won’t have a giant asterisks next to it in the record book. HOW DO YA LIKE THEM APPLES!
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April 24th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
As far as the Packers stand, I’d rather they trade down out of the first and get the same level of talent with 5 or 6 picks within the 2nd and 3rd round. There isn’t a player that would be a huge difference maker by trading up in the first. I believe their 2 2nd rounders and 1st rounders would get them as high as 12 possibly. What player at that position is worth unloading that much? Cromartie? Jenkins? McKelvin? Great players, not worth that much in resources.
I’m hoping with all the teams in the top of the round avoiding QBs (and justifiably so), they will try to make that jump for the talents the likes of Chad Henne or Flacco. Who knows, they could be the next J.P. “gunslinger” Losman.
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