Comments on: MARVIN WINS BACK THE LOCKER ROOM http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:13:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: brewdog21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20886 brewdog21 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:55:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20886 OK, A retraction. What I meant to type, was "Super Shitty NFC". My bad. Unless somebody wants to tell me that the 9-7 playoff Redskins are vastly superior to the 10-6 Browns (with all due respects, no Sean Taylor comments in response here). Either way, look at it this way. Bengals fans have seen so much crap football from their home team for so many years, that we've given up our homer bias and are probably the most cynical (i.e. educated) football fans around. You think we like losing? No. You think we know what great football is? Yes. We see it about 10-13 games a year... against the be-striped ones. And as far as arrests go, check the Turd watch. Almost all of those are off the books via release, trade, or free agency. I mean, it's not like the 1970s Steelers apparently had any substance abuse issues, they're all perfectly alive and well. OK, A retraction. What I meant to type, was “Super Shitty NFC”. My bad. Unless somebody wants to tell me that the 9-7 playoff Redskins are vastly superior to the 10-6 Browns (with all due respects, no Sean Taylor comments in response here).

Either way, look at it this way. Bengals fans have seen so much crap football from their home team for so many years, that we’ve given up our homer bias and are probably the most cynical (i.e. educated) football fans around. You think we like losing? No. You think we know what great football is? Yes. We see it about 10-13 games a year… against the be-striped ones.

And as far as arrests go, check the Turd watch. Almost all of those are off the books via release, trade, or free agency. I mean, it’s not like the 1970s Steelers apparently had any substance abuse issues, they’re all perfectly alive and well.

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20804 empty13 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:50:26 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20804 cincy will have a healthier OL next year. assuming their RBs dont develop Henryitis they will pound it more anyway. i surmise cincy will draft a rb. also, anyone think palmer has any talent? agreed lewis isnt all that and a bag of chips. he is the flipside of billick. billick has an undeserved rep as an offensive whiz. once out of minnehaha he couldnt deliver O. lewis has an undeserved rep as a defensive whiz. once out of balto he couldnt deliver D. except when cincy plays balto, that is. a good coach who isnt paranoid will attract more good coaches. a good coach can get something out of the talent he inherits. cincy will have a healthier OL next year. assuming their RBs dont develop Henryitis they will pound it more anyway. i surmise cincy will draft a rb.

also, anyone think palmer has any talent?

agreed lewis isnt all that and a bag of chips. he is the flipside of billick. billick has an undeserved rep as an offensive whiz. once out of minnehaha he couldnt deliver O. lewis has an undeserved rep as a defensive whiz. once out of balto he couldnt deliver D.

except when cincy plays balto, that is.

a good coach who isnt paranoid will attract more good coaches. a good coach can get something out of the talent he inherits.

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]]> By: ParrishGraham http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20654 ParrishGraham Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:06:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20654 Brewdog As a couple of poster posted, the NFC East won the Super Bowl. Nuff said. go root for the Bengles to get out on work release for Sunday games. Brewdog

As a couple of poster posted, the NFC East won the Super Bowl.

Nuff said. go root for the Bengles to get out on work release for Sunday games.

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]]> By: ryanmc http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20527 ryanmc Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:22:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20527 Henry Plainview: "this is why the Bengals are perennial losers. you have a chance to get rid of someone who doesn’t want to be there and will cause problems, yet you don’t take the picks and or players for him?" If they trade Chad and the picks they get for him end up as busts and Chad wins a championship with his new team, then everybody will get on the Bengals for having traded Chad. (see the after-the-fact criticisms of the Corey Dillon trade, even though that trade made complete sense IMO and the pick we got for him was not a bust) Henry Plainview: “this is why the Bengals are perennial losers. you have a chance to get rid of someone who doesn’t want to be there and will cause problems, yet you don’t take the picks and or players for him?”

If they trade Chad and the picks they get for him end up as busts and Chad wins a championship with his new team, then everybody will get on the Bengals for having traded Chad. (see the after-the-fact criticisms of the Corey Dillon trade, even though that trade made complete sense IMO and the pick we got for him was not a bust)

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]]> By: cantgetenough http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20322 cantgetenough Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:14:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20322 mrf47 wrote, "Brewdog - 'super-shitty NFC East'? I could be mistaken, but I believe the New York Giants, of the NFC East, WON THE SUPER BOWL last season. Idiot." Agreed! The NFC East sent 3 teams to the playoffs, and the NYG won the SB. But I guess that is less impressive than the arrest record for the Cincinatti bungholes. Brewdog, how many teams did the AFC North send to the playoffs last year? mrf47 wrote,

“Brewdog -

’super-shitty NFC East’? I could be mistaken, but I believe the New York Giants, of the NFC East, WON THE SUPER BOWL last season.

Idiot.”

Agreed! The NFC East sent 3 teams to the playoffs, and the NYG won the SB. But I guess that is less impressive than the arrest record for the Cincinatti bungholes.

Brewdog, how many teams did the AFC North send to the playoffs last year?

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]]> By: Orenji http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20245 Orenji Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:51:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20245 Chad Johnson (while being one of the highest paid wide recievers over the length of his contract) isn't going to make very much this year. In fact, the number for this year is pretty pitiful. If you were to trade him for a draft pick that he's worth, you'd have to pay that pick 10 mil to play. At the same time, if the Bengals were to trade him it lets every player whose contract you write up in such a manner just request to be traded when their salary number for that particular year drops. It makes absolutely no sense for the Bengals to trade Chad and you can rest assured that they won't unless the offer is simply disgusting in their favor. I think really we should be discussing why everyone including Chad Johnson thinks he's so good. He can't run a decent route unless it's a seem and that's evident by the fact that he can't get open in the redzone. Why do the Redskins want this guy? They already have a handful of inconsistent wide receivers who are built on speed and flash instead of size and technique. Just goes to show you when the Skins should be hunting a guy with size like Boldin or Roy Williams, they'll go for the guy that gives them more attention and loses them more games. Chad Johnson (while being one of the highest paid wide recievers over the length of his contract) isn’t going to make very much this year. In fact, the number for this year is pretty pitiful. If you were to trade him for a draft pick that he’s worth, you’d have to pay that pick 10 mil to play.

At the same time, if the Bengals were to trade him it lets every player whose contract you write up in such a manner just request to be traded when their salary number for that particular year drops.

It makes absolutely no sense for the Bengals to trade Chad and you can rest assured that they won’t unless the offer is simply disgusting in their favor.

I think really we should be discussing why everyone including Chad Johnson thinks he’s so good. He can’t run a decent route unless it’s a seem and that’s evident by the fact that he can’t get open in the redzone. Why do the Redskins want this guy? They already have a handful of inconsistent wide receivers who are built on speed and flash instead of size and technique.

Just goes to show you when the Skins should be hunting a guy with size like Boldin or Roy Williams, they’ll go for the guy that gives them more attention and loses them more games.

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]]> By: mrf47 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20234 mrf47 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:17:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20234 Brewdog - "super-shitty NFC East"? I could be mistaken, but I believe the New York Giants, of the NFC East, WON THE SUPER BOWL last season. Idiot. Brewdog -

“super-shitty NFC East”? I could be mistaken, but I believe the New York Giants, of the NFC East, WON THE SUPER BOWL last season.

Idiot.

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]]> By: Ogar http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20222 Ogar Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:36:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20222 How does Marvin Lewis still have a job? 5 years and only 1 winning season and zero playoff victories. He's a defensive genus yet is defense is never any good. He's Brian Billick without any playoff wins. The only thing more overrated than Marvin Lewis is Carson Palmer. Seriously...Palmer is a great "fantasy quarterback" because he has so many great weapons but how many AFC Championship games has he won? Oh that's right, one must first make the playoffs and win a game or two before they play for the chance of playing in the Super Bowl. The only reason this circus will continue is because Mike Brown is a clown and he knows his pockets will be filled with cash no matter how bad the Bengals are. It's not like the Cincinnati Reds are winning over the city. How does Marvin Lewis still have a job? 5 years and only 1 winning season and zero playoff victories. He’s a defensive genus yet is defense is never any good. He’s Brian Billick without any playoff wins. The only thing more overrated than Marvin Lewis is Carson Palmer. Seriously…Palmer is a great “fantasy quarterback” because he has so many great weapons but how many AFC Championship games has he won? Oh that’s right, one must first make the playoffs and win a game or two before they play for the chance of playing in the Super Bowl.

The only reason this circus will continue is because Mike Brown is a clown and he knows his pockets will be filled with cash no matter how bad the Bengals are. It’s not like the Cincinnati Reds are winning over the city.

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]]> By: SirSuperSouthern http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20196 SirSuperSouthern Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:30:51 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20196 Wow, how does a team with three legitimate #1 receivers end up with none in the span of one offseason? Amazing! The front office must be pulling what little hair they have left out of the sides of their heads. I really hope the new CBA in 2011 addresses these kinds of hold-outs somehow... Wow, how does a team with three legitimate #1 receivers end up with none in the span of one offseason? Amazing! The front office must be pulling what little hair they have left out of the sides of their heads. I really hope the new CBA in 2011 addresses these kinds of hold-outs somehow…

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]]> By: IgnatiusJReilly http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20195 IgnatiusJReilly Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:30:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20195 Standing on principle is all well and good until the BS gets neck deep and breathing becomes an issue. Marvin may or may not have won back the locker room- if he ever had it all, but he- and Mike Brown, have certainly lost the fan base. You know, the ones of us actually excited to have a stud QB and a supposed defensive guru coming in to run the team several years back. Mike Brown is a moron, living proof that sometimes the apple falls light years away from the tree. He's gone 17 years without a GM, trusting the football decisions to extended family. Quite honestly, there's no good reason for the Bengals to have turned the Skins' offer down. Chad's become a Carl Pickens/Corey Dillon and needs to go. Standing on principle is all well and good until the BS gets neck deep and breathing becomes an issue. Marvin may or may not have won back the locker room- if he ever had it all, but he- and Mike Brown, have certainly lost the fan base. You know, the ones of us actually excited to have a stud QB and a supposed defensive guru coming in to run the team several years back. Mike Brown is a moron, living proof that sometimes the apple falls light years away from the tree. He’s gone 17 years without a GM, trusting the football decisions to extended family. Quite honestly, there’s no good reason for the Bengals to have turned the Skins’ offer down. Chad’s become a Carl Pickens/Corey Dillon and needs to go.

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]]> By: brewdog21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20176 brewdog21 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:55:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20176 ParrishGraham, Ouch, that stings. Wow. A super-shitty NFC had a super-shitty NFC East Redskins sneak into the playoffs and that's fodder for taunting longtime shitty-play-watching Bengals fans? Awesome! Have fun paying good money to watch your shitty-playing team shitty-practice. Brewdog P.S. for the record, if you get him before the draft, enjoy. ParrishGraham,

Ouch, that stings. Wow. A super-shitty NFC had a super-shitty NFC East Redskins sneak into the playoffs and that’s fodder for taunting longtime shitty-play-watching Bengals fans?

Awesome!

Have fun paying good money to watch your shitty-playing team shitty-practice.

Brewdog

P.S. for the record, if you get him before the draft, enjoy.

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]]> By: Henry Plainview http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20161 Henry Plainview Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:37:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20161 this is why the Bengals are perennial losers. you have a chance to get rid of someone who doesn't want to be there and will cause problems, yet you don't take the picks and or players for him? Bengals think by putting their foot down it will help their team? it's not gonna happen, they will pay Johnson for doing nothing but talking trash and running his routes half ass. the Vikes took Allen off the Chiefs' hands and the Bengals should follow suit. this is why the Bengals are perennial losers. you have a chance to get rid of someone who doesn’t want to be there and will cause problems, yet you don’t take the picks and or players for him? Bengals think by putting their foot down it will help their team? it’s not gonna happen, they will pay Johnson for doing nothing but talking trash and running his routes half ass. the Vikes took Allen off the Chiefs’ hands and the Bengals should follow suit.

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]]> By: Jeremiah W http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20158 Jeremiah W Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:31:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20158 I meant Ocho Stinko like Chad. Lavar Arrington bought his way out of DC. Someone else did too I can't think of, T.O. maybe, but players can and do give back signing bonus money to save a team cap space. J.O. did so for the Ravens about 5 mil worth this off season so we could keep Suggs and Jason Brown. Drew can make it happen in some sort o shell restructure that would sve the Bungles some "cap room", which if you look at Dallas and DC, has more holes in it than the Bungle defense. Free Ocho Stinko. I meant Ocho Stinko like Chad.

Lavar Arrington bought his way out of DC. Someone else did too I can’t think of, T.O. maybe, but players can and do give back signing bonus money to save a team cap space. J.O. did so for the Ravens about 5 mil worth this off season so we could keep Suggs and Jason Brown.

Drew can make it happen in some sort o shell restructure that would sve the Bungles some “cap room”, which if you look at Dallas and DC, has more holes in it than the Bungle defense.

Free Ocho Stinko.

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]]> By: ParrishGraham http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20145 ParrishGraham Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:18:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20145 brewdog21, a Passionate Fan The Skins have a better chance of making the playoffs than the Bungle. I think they made the playoffs lat year, where were the Bungles, at home watching just like all of the other sorry a$$ teams. HTTR... P.S. I hope "Marvin" keeps the guy on the roster. brewdog21, a Passionate Fan

The Skins have a better chance of making the playoffs than the Bungle. I think they made the playoffs lat year, where were the Bungles, at home watching just like all of the other sorry a$$ teams.

HTTR…

P.S.

I hope “Marvin” keeps the guy on the roster.

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]]> By: subzero2401 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20133 subzero2401 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:02:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20133 ok, so he won back the locker room...now what? The gameplan vs. the Bengals in 2008 is simple. Double-team Houshmandzadeh. that's it. Plain and simple. Stack the box to stop an already anemic running game, and the game is won. The Bengals are going nowhere in 2008, so congratulations on winning back the locker room, coach. ok, so he won back the locker room…now what? The gameplan vs. the Bengals in 2008 is simple. Double-team Houshmandzadeh. that’s it. Plain and simple. Stack the box to stop an already anemic running game, and the game is won. The Bengals are going nowhere in 2008, so congratulations on winning back the locker room, coach.

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]]> By: brianbaker6 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20130 brianbaker6 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:57:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20130 Hey Jeremiah W - The Bengals GM is an "8"? Also, there's talk that Chad somehow has serious financial problems, so what makes you think he'll pay back the signing bonus? And even if he does, that money doesn't negate a cap hit. It's just money in the Bengals pockets that can't be spent on players anyways. The only way to eliminate a cap hit is for Chad to sit down, renegotiate his contract to lessen the cap hit, then be traded. I doubt neither he nor Rosenhaus will stoop to that level... Hey Jeremiah W - The Bengals GM is an “8″?

Also, there’s talk that Chad somehow has serious financial problems, so what makes you think he’ll pay back the signing bonus? And even if he does, that money doesn’t negate a cap hit. It’s just money in the Bengals pockets that can’t be spent on players anyways. The only way to eliminate a cap hit is for Chad to sit down, renegotiate his contract to lessen the cap hit, then be traded. I doubt neither he nor Rosenhaus will stoop to that level…

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]]> By: brewdog21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20127 brewdog21 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:55:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20127 Jeremiah, You mean Ocho has the ability to circumvent the collective bargaining agreement by just paying back a signing bonus and that erases a cap hit? Why doesn't he just do that? Don't post about the cap unless you know how it works. And Bengals fans can't stand 85. And no, we don't give Lewis credit for winning a Super Bowl, because he is yet to win a playoff game. And interesting? Who cares about interesting? Washington is interesting and they suck, too. And, finally, the GM is an Ocho? The GM is an 8? Cincy doesn't have a GM, but if they did, I'd love an 8. Jeremiah,

You mean Ocho has the ability to circumvent the collective bargaining agreement by just paying back a signing bonus and that erases a cap hit? Why doesn’t he just do that? Don’t post about the cap unless you know how it works.

And Bengals fans can’t stand 85. And no, we don’t give Lewis credit for winning a Super Bowl, because he is yet to win a playoff game.

And interesting? Who cares about interesting? Washington is interesting and they suck, too.

And, finally, the GM is an Ocho? The GM is an 8? Cincy doesn’t have a GM, but if they did, I’d love an 8.

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]]> By: Jeremiah W http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20106 Jeremiah W Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:54:51 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20106 Marvin has won nothing. Wait until Palmer gets beat down week 1 with 1 decent reciving option left and a shabby O line. Ocho Stinko is the only thing that makes the Bungles interesting. Any Bungle fans still giving Marvin credit for winning the SB? Just free Ocho Stinko. He will pay back the signing bonus so there will be no cap hit. You may as well not trade for draft picks anyway since you have no scouts and your GM is an..Ocho Marvin has won nothing. Wait until Palmer gets beat down week 1 with 1 decent reciving option left and a shabby O line.

Ocho Stinko is the only thing that makes the Bungles interesting.

Any Bungle fans still giving Marvin credit for winning the SB?

Just free Ocho Stinko. He will pay back the signing bonus so there will be no cap hit. You may as well not trade for draft picks anyway since you have no scouts and your GM is an..Ocho

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]]> By: blitzburgh1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20099 blitzburgh1 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:49:34 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20099 When did Marvin EVER have control of his locker room? More popcorn anyone? When did Marvin EVER have control of his locker room?

More popcorn anyone?

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20098 empty13 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:49:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20098 i hear that. except with the bungles being down so long it looked like up, he probably never had the locker room. no one since wyche has "had" that locker room. i hear that. except with the bungles being down so long it looked like up, he probably never had the locker room. no one since wyche has “had” that locker room.

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]]> By: dirtyharry http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20093 dirtyharry Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:35:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20093 Once a coach loses the locker room, it's damn near impossible to win it back. Once a coach loses the locker room, it’s damn near impossible to win it back.

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]]> By: jdawg http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20079 jdawg Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:55:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20079 toad i totally agree with you, im pumped the the new roger goddell is cracking down on the turds of the league. but it also warms my heart to know that some of the coaches who have been taking proverbial bitch slaps from thier players are finally starting to fight back against the players. i mean shit, if a starting high school widereciver said some stuff like that to his coaches he would be sitting the bench all year. and honestly chad had a crappy year last year, so who the hell wants a complaining, dollar sucking, can't make the important catch, player on thier team? ( and yes i do realize that i suck at spelling) toad i totally agree with you, im pumped the the new roger goddell is cracking down on the turds of the league. but it also warms my heart to know that some of the coaches who have been taking proverbial bitch slaps from thier players are finally starting to fight back against the players. i mean shit, if a starting high school widereciver said some stuff like that to his coaches he would be sitting the bench all year. and honestly chad had a crappy year last year, so who the hell wants a complaining, dollar sucking, can’t make the important catch, player on thier team? ( and yes i do realize that i suck at spelling)

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]]> By: SkinsFan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20077 SkinsFan Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:50:31 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20077 As much as I like Marvin Lewis, it is absurd to suggest he has won back the locker room! If he indeed has lost control of the locker room, how can a coach win back his locker room during the time of year the locker room is empty??? Until the team reports for training camp nobody has a clue what the locker room dynamics will be. If Chad shows up (as expected) and is still disgruntled, then we will find out how much control Marvin has in the locker room. Unfortanetly, until Mike Brown gives Lewis the authority trade or cut Chad, his hands are pretty much tied and forced to sit and watch whatever Chad decides to do. I will be shocked if there is any semblance of control anywhere near the BEngals locker room, I except a circus. As much as I like Marvin Lewis, it is absurd to suggest he has won back the locker room! If he indeed has lost control of the locker room, how can a coach win back his locker room during the time of year the locker room is empty??? Until the team reports for training camp nobody has a clue what the locker room dynamics will be. If Chad shows up (as expected) and is still disgruntled, then we will find out how much control Marvin has in the locker room. Unfortanetly, until Mike Brown gives Lewis the authority trade or cut Chad, his hands are pretty much tied and forced to sit and watch whatever Chad decides to do. I will be shocked if there is any semblance of control anywhere near the BEngals locker room, I except a circus.

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20076 empty13 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:50:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20076 I probly would have taken the offer. But if you have ever worked with someone who kept threatening to quit... but never did... after a while when the topic of "I'll quit" gets raised again, it gets met with do it or STFU. I surmise everyone else thinks TJ is the #1 wideout anyway and thinks Carson was right when he told psycho to just admit it effed up. Sooner or later all the prima donna psychos screw up something. I probly would have taken the offer.

But if you have ever worked with someone who kept threatening to quit… but never did… after a while when the topic of “I’ll quit” gets raised again, it gets met with do it or STFU.

I surmise everyone else thinks TJ is the #1 wideout anyway and thinks Carson was right when he told psycho to just admit it effed up.

Sooner or later all the prima donna psychos screw up something.

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]]> By: Toad http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20075 Toad Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:48:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20075 It's nice to see Marv finally drop a pair. It’s nice to see Marv finally drop a pair.

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]]> By: G-man http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20073 G-man Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:44:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20073 I hope they stand by what they say and let him rot on the sidelines. It's about time somebody puts a stop to this trade demand crap. I hope they stand by what they say and let him rot on the sidelines.

It’s about time somebody puts a stop to this trade demand crap.

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]]> By: jdestrada http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20070 jdestrada Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:35:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20070 "MARVIN WINS BACK THE LOCKER ROOM"...Now lets see if he can win some GAMES!!! “MARVIN WINS BACK THE LOCKER ROOM”…Now lets see if he can win some GAMES!!!

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]]> By: BeaverThomasInSC http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20068 BeaverThomasInSC Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:31:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20068 It is a very long season and Mr. Touchdown is already assuming things. Marvin cleared the air and that will go along way in the Blue Chip City. Even with the schedule what it is I look for them to come out swinging early and often and land a few of those blows that only hit the air last year. Only DURING the season we will see what substance this team has going forward. A sweeping statement like that will not go unnoticed in this saavy group..........remember, Pittsburg has thee Toughest schedule and if they don't shore up their offensive line from the Departure of Faneca you might just be able to say the same thing about them! It is a very long season and Mr. Touchdown is already assuming things.

Marvin cleared the air and that will go along way in the Blue Chip City.

Even with the schedule what it is I look for them to come out swinging early and often and land a few of those blows that only hit the air last year.

Only DURING the season we will see what substance this team has going forward. A sweeping statement like that will not go unnoticed in this saavy group……….remember, Pittsburg has thee Toughest schedule and if they don’t shore up their offensive line from the Departure of Faneca you might just be able to say the same thing about them!

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]]> By: bondem777 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20066 bondem777 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:28:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20066 Just remember what happened to the New York Giants when Barber and all his negativity left the team. The same thing could happen with the Bengals if Johnson left. I understand why they don't want to let him have his way, but I think getting rid of him would be the best thing they could do for everyone. Just remember what happened to the New York Giants when Barber and all his negativity left the team. The same thing could happen with the Bengals if Johnson left. I understand why they don’t want to let him have his way, but I think getting rid of him would be the best thing they could do for everyone.

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]]> By: drboogerlips http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20064 drboogerlips Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:25:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20064 I respect what Marvin did, why don't they just trade him? The skins offered them the world. They could have received way more than he's worth and be done with it. This is a pissing match gone way too far. I respect what Marvin did, why don’t they just trade him? The skins offered them the world. They could have received way more than he’s worth and be done with it.

This is a pissing match gone way too far.

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]]> By: Gforce21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20060 Gforce21 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:23:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20060 Come now Mr Florio, it was a camel clutch that the Iron Shiek had Hacksaw Duggan in! Come now Mr Florio, it was a camel clutch that the Iron Shiek had Hacksaw Duggan in!

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]]> By: Mr. Touchdown http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20043 Mr. Touchdown Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:50:49 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/marvin-wins-back-the-locker-room/#comment-20043 Bengals still won't make the playoffs. Bengals still won’t make the playoffs.

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