Comments on: CHAD SERIOUS ABOUT NOT SHOWING UP? http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:52:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Jeremiah W http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-20097 Jeremiah W Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:47:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-20097 islebfrank, I find Ocho's side show amusing mainly because I am a Raven fan and am sick of him beating C-Mack more than I am him running his mouth. The Ravens know how to talk and how to deal with WRs who try to talk back. He may just be tired of Ed Reed Jacking him up twice a year, or the annual Bungle swoon. Don't make him come back in and start slapping the whole front office around. Why do you want to keep him if he does not want to be there? Are BUngle fans really that spiteful they would rather force him to retire than get some draft picks? NE only gave up a 4th rounder for Moss. Be happy someone is dumb enough to give you a first rounder and get it over with already, sorry Bungles. islebfrank, I find Ocho’s side show amusing mainly because I am a Raven fan and am sick of him beating C-Mack more than I am him running his mouth. The Ravens know how to talk and how to deal with WRs who try to talk back. He may just be tired of Ed Reed Jacking him up twice a year, or the annual Bungle swoon. Don’t make him come back in and start slapping the whole front office around.

Why do you want to keep him if he does not want to be there? Are BUngle fans really that spiteful they would rather force him to retire than get some draft picks?

NE only gave up a 4th rounder for Moss. Be happy someone is dumb enough to give you a first rounder and get it over with already, sorry Bungles.

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]]> By: preludetosmack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19911 preludetosmack Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:31:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19911 The Bengals will be holding out for the Redskins to offer Santana Moss, the 17th overall pick in 2008 and some pick in 2009. Redskins get Chad. Bengals take the $8M Cap hit for trading Chad, Redskins take the $7M hit for trading Moss. Chad gets a new contract; Moss only gets a new contract after 1-2 years if he improves his production. Bengals select Sedrick Ellis with their first-first round pick (even if it costs them their 3rd round pick to move up). They can then select the best WR on the board with their other first round pick. Bengals get better... Snyder gets what he wants. The Bengals will be holding out for the Redskins to offer Santana Moss, the 17th overall pick in 2008 and some pick in 2009.

Redskins get Chad.

Bengals take the $8M Cap hit for trading Chad, Redskins take the $7M hit for trading Moss.

Chad gets a new contract; Moss only gets a new contract after 1-2 years if he improves his production.

Bengals select Sedrick Ellis with their first-first round pick (even if it costs them their 3rd round pick to move up). They can then select the best WR on the board with their other first round pick.

Bengals get better… Snyder gets what he wants.

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]]> By: islebfrank http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19880 islebfrank Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:34:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19880 Jeremiah W, a Water Boy, said: April 24th, 2008 at 10:47 am "Free Ocho Stinko. The Bungles can posture and fine him all they want, but they are going to lose with or with out him, so why not get something instead of nothing and bad PR, and will from the guys around the NFL who all like and support Ocho." Jeremiah, climb out from under your rock more often, it is 2008! If the Bengals are going to lose, whether they trade CJ or keep him, I seriously doubt they will incur an $8 million cap hit, lose one of their better players, and open the door for the next head-case whose average catches per season is well above his IQ, just so a garbage picking Ratbird fan and a few talking heads on TV will like them! Chad's only support is coming from other NFL players who would like to be able to change teams whenever they want to, and morons fans of other teams (like your Ravens, for instance) that have something to gain. NFL Network and ESPN are more than happy to cover Chad's sideshow on their networks, because people will tune in to watch to see if he can top the level of stupidity he reached with the previous day's comments. But they are laughing at Chad Johnson, not with him, and Chad Johnson is just too stupid to realize it! Jeremiah, I'm starting to understand why you identify so well with Chad... Jeremiah W, a Water Boy, said:

April 24th, 2008 at 10:47 am
“Free Ocho Stinko. The Bungles can posture and fine him all they want, but they are going to lose with or with out him, so why not get something instead of nothing and bad PR, and will from the guys around the NFL who all like and support Ocho.”

Jeremiah, climb out from under your rock more often, it is 2008!

If the Bengals are going to lose, whether they trade CJ or keep him, I seriously doubt they will incur an $8 million cap hit, lose one of their better players, and open the door for the next head-case whose average catches per season is well above his IQ, just so a garbage picking Ratbird fan and a few talking heads on TV will like them! Chad’s only support is coming from other NFL players who would like to be able to change teams whenever they want to, and morons fans of other teams (like your Ravens, for instance) that have something to gain. NFL Network and ESPN are more than happy to cover Chad’s sideshow on their networks, because people will tune in to watch to see if he can top the level of stupidity he reached with the previous day’s comments. But they are laughing at Chad Johnson, not with him, and Chad Johnson is just too stupid to realize it!

Jeremiah, I’m starting to understand why you identify so well with Chad…

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]]> By: eagles20 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19797 eagles20 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:23:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19797 i would agree with vox. stop drinking the cool aide smiley i would agree with vox. stop drinking the cool aide smiley

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19794 Vox Veritas Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:14:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19794 Dude, the Snyderskins are the undefeated champs of overpaying players. Do you really need a reminder? Deion Sanders - 7 years, $56 million. Bruce Smith - 5 years, $23 million Adam Archuleta - 7 years, $35 million Randle El - 7 years, $31 million Brandon Lloyd - 6 years, $30 million You guys are going to be paying through the nose in dead cap space for Lloyd's contract through the '09 season and he never even scored a TD for you guys. Need I go on? Dude, the Snyderskins are the undefeated champs of overpaying players. Do you really need a reminder?

Deion Sanders - 7 years, $56 million.
Bruce Smith - 5 years, $23 million
Adam Archuleta - 7 years, $35 million
Randle El - 7 years, $31 million
Brandon Lloyd - 6 years, $30 million

You guys are going to be paying through the nose in dead cap space for Lloyd’s contract through the ‘09 season and he never even scored a TD for you guys. Need I go on?

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]]> By: eagles20 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19780 eagles20 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:45:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19780 oh smiley dont even start on overpaid free agents that did not pan out, let's see, randel el, bruce smith, jeff george, trotter, coles, hall, archuletta, patten ,barlow and lets not forget those 2 powerhouse recievers in green and anthony you got from the bucs.yeah you guys have some great track record i see. cant draft so lets try and buy a team. we were winning nfl championships before the redskins were barely around. know you football history guy, but lets look at the skins future. new coach, no defence, one reciever, you best player is cooley. come on man. yeah and i am sure gibbs is jumping at the opportunity to come back to the skins.... good one. oh smiley dont even start on overpaid free agents that did not pan out, let’s see, randel el, bruce smith, jeff george, trotter, coles, hall, archuletta, patten ,barlow and lets not forget those 2 powerhouse recievers in green and anthony you got from the bucs.yeah you guys have some great track record i see. cant draft so lets try and buy a team. we were winning nfl championships before the redskins were barely around. know you football history guy, but lets look at the skins future. new coach, no defence, one reciever, you best player is cooley. come on man. yeah and i am sure gibbs is jumping at the opportunity to come back to the skins…. good one.

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]]> By: smiley http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19766 smiley Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:26:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19766 Eagles20 - You've got to live in the future because y'all have no past. Let's not start talking about overpaying for players (The Freak? How about The MEEK!) Gibbs can come back anytime he wants pal...nad he can name his price. Hail! Eagles20 - You’ve got to live in the future because y’all have no past. Let’s not start talking about overpaying for players (The Freak? How about The MEEK!) Gibbs can come back anytime he wants pal…nad he can name his price. Hail!

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19761 empty13 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:25:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19761 I think there is some sense to the idea that TJ has bypassed him. I also remember that monday night game where Palmer was caught on live audio saying "admit chad you effed up". otoh, marvin is the flipside of billick. marvin is the defensive genius but except for an occasional gem (usually vs. balto)... cincy doesnt play that much d. it would be interesting if chad showed up to play week 10... and THEN the bengals med staff refused to clear him to play. if not traded, he has to show up and play sometime or retire. games not played eventuall get added to the year after his last contract year, thus essentially keeping him as a cincy player. but... now that i see what they offered, i would hold out for a little more from snyder. like a current good player ilo a conditional 09 lower round pick. snyder is a sucker. I think there is some sense to the idea that TJ has bypassed him. I also remember that monday night game where Palmer was caught on live audio saying “admit chad you effed up”.

otoh, marvin is the flipside of billick. marvin is the defensive genius but except for an occasional gem (usually vs. balto)… cincy doesnt play that much d.

it would be interesting if chad showed up to play week 10… and THEN the bengals med staff refused to clear him to play.

if not traded, he has to show up and play sometime or retire. games not played eventuall get added to the year after his last contract year, thus essentially keeping him as a cincy player.

but… now that i see what they offered, i would hold out for a little more from snyder. like a current good player ilo a conditional 09 lower round pick. snyder is a sucker.

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]]> By: eagles20 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19725 eagles20 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:37:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19725 smiley- yeah the skins are a powerhouse team since snyder took over, stop living in the past with your superbowl talk. if you recall we dumped his butt the next year and synder is the king of turd collectors and overpaying. randal el yeah he is panning out oh yeah trash , i mean thrash too....lol keep living in the past dude, i guess that is why your brought gibbs back too........come on man. smiley- yeah the skins are a powerhouse team since snyder took over, stop living in the past with your superbowl talk. if you recall we dumped his butt the next year and synder is the king of turd collectors and overpaying. randal el yeah he is panning out oh yeah trash , i mean thrash too….lol keep living in the past dude, i guess that is why your brought gibbs back too……..come on man.

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]]> By: Dirty_Waters http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19720 Dirty_Waters Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:32:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19720 Marvin Lewis called his bluff in public. Johnson has to sit out now or he will look like a b*tch. Marvin Lewis called his bluff in public. Johnson has to sit out now or he will look like a b*tch.

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]]> By: Enrgy2Burn http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19714 Enrgy2Burn Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:23:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19714 there is another option... he could show up prior to week 10 so that he gets credit for the season. if the bengals happen to be doing well at that point, which is a reach, it may make the team wish they had traded him rather than have him screw up the chemsitry that the team may develop without him, a la the Giants and Jeremy Shockey. there is another option… he could show up prior to week 10 so that he gets credit for the season. if the bengals happen to be doing well at that point, which is a reach, it may make the team wish they had traded him rather than have him screw up the chemsitry that the team may develop without him, a la the Giants and Jeremy Shockey.

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]]> By: OrangeAndBlack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19706 OrangeAndBlack Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:10:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19706 Stoogie has it right... Cinci is a small-market, smaller-budget team that not everyone wants to play for, and if the Bengals open the door for anybody who gets a big head, doesn't like the coaches, etc., they'll never be able to field a competitive team again. Yes, he'll leave a huge hole if he's not there. But last year Chad looked average. Bad routes, a LOT of dropped passes, and constant miscommunication with Palmer. No team should accommodate an average player with a big head. Barring a trade, 2nd round pick or early 3rd should be a WR. Early Doucet, maybe Caldwell from FL. We need the depth, and it sends a message. Stoogie has it right… Cinci is a small-market, smaller-budget team that not everyone wants to play for, and if the Bengals open the door for anybody who gets a big head, doesn’t like the coaches, etc., they’ll never be able to field a competitive team again.

Yes, he’ll leave a huge hole if he’s not there. But last year Chad looked average. Bad routes, a LOT of dropped passes, and constant miscommunication with Palmer. No team should accommodate an average player with a big head. Barring a trade, 2nd round pick or early 3rd should be a WR. Early Doucet, maybe Caldwell from FL. We need the depth, and it sends a message.

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]]> By: preludetosmack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19702 preludetosmack Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:05:23 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19702 you can't 'tweak a hamstring' unless the Bengals medical staff doesn't clear you to play. How likely do you think it is the Bengals Medical staff doesn't clear Chad, effectively causing him to get fined more? It's not difficult when you hold all of the cards. you can’t ‘tweak a hamstring’ unless the Bengals medical staff doesn’t clear you to play.

How likely do you think it is the Bengals Medical staff doesn’t clear Chad, effectively causing him to get fined more?

It’s not difficult when you hold all of the cards.

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]]> By: smiley http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19693 smiley Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:52:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19693 Eagles20 - Your Super Bowless team caved in and signed the King of Turds! You had ur popcorn ready then!!! Why not now?! You tried winning a Super Bowl with a turd at receiver...now you'll try it without one? Where's the tiptoeing Stinkston when you need em'? Hail boy. Eagles20 - Your Super Bowless team caved in and signed the King of Turds! You had ur popcorn ready then!!! Why not now?! You tried winning a Super Bowl with a turd at receiver…now you’ll try it without one? Where’s the tiptoeing Stinkston when you need em’? Hail boy.

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]]> By: Jeremiah W http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19686 Jeremiah W Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:47:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19686 Free Ocho Stinko. The Bungles can posture and fine him all they want, but they are going to lose with or with out him, so why not get something instead of nothing and bad PR, and will from the guys around the NFL who all like and support Ocho. Just continue to hold out Chad, they can fine you all they want, but if you show up gameday, they will have to cut you a check even though you will likely not make the active roster they will be forced to keep you in the top 53. They can fine you 14 grand a day for 100 days and it still wont be much of a percentage of your new signing bonus from Snyder. Better yet just show up and "tweak a hamstring" Who Dey? Bungles beat the Bengals before they ever put on pads. Free Ocho Stinko. The Bungles can posture and fine him all they want, but they are going to lose with or with out him, so why not get something instead of nothing and bad PR, and will from the guys around the NFL who all like and support Ocho.

Just continue to hold out Chad, they can fine you all they want, but if you show up gameday, they will have to cut you a check even though you will likely not make the active roster they will be forced to keep you in the top 53.
They can fine you 14 grand a day for 100 days and it still wont be much of a percentage of your new signing bonus from Snyder.

Better yet just show up and “tweak a hamstring”

Who Dey? Bungles beat the Bengals before they ever put on pads.

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]]> By: BOBJOHNSON http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19683 BOBJOHNSON Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:45:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19683 I would trade his sorry whiny a$$ for draft picks faster than OCHO SUCKO can drop a game winning touchdown pass. I wonder how much of his whining is related to the fact that T.J. was the better receiver last year. Put Kenny Anderson In The Hall Of Fame!! I would trade his sorry whiny a$$ for draft picks faster than OCHO SUCKO can drop a game winning touchdown pass.

I wonder how much of his whining is related to the fact that T.J. was the better receiver last year.

Put Kenny Anderson In The Hall Of Fame!!

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]]> By: Stoogie http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19670 Stoogie Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:30:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19670 The Bengals are in a catch-22 of sorts. On one hand, if they trade Johnson, they send a message that if their players don't want to be in Cincinnati, all they have to do is bitch, complain, whine, cry, hold their breath and stomp their feet long enough and they'll get out of there. On the other hand, if they dig in against the player, they risk the PR backlash from those who want the player gone, a poisoned locker room and off-field distractions which are anything but positive. Either way, the longer the Bengals continue on the course they're on now, it won't end pretty for them. IMO, if the Bengals came out and said that they're not going to trade Chad Johnson because they consider him an integral part of the team and if they did trade them they don't think that they would do as well this season, they'd do more to diffuse the situation than to trot Marvin Lewis out there to call his bluff and practically dare him to throw more tantrums. (maybe they've already done this, I'm not a Bengals fan) The Bengals are in a catch-22 of sorts. On one hand, if they trade Johnson, they send a message that if their players don’t want to be in Cincinnati, all they have to do is bitch, complain, whine, cry, hold their breath and stomp their feet long enough and they’ll get out of there.

On the other hand, if they dig in against the player, they risk the PR backlash from those who want the player gone, a poisoned locker room and off-field distractions which are anything but positive.

Either way, the longer the Bengals continue on the course they’re on now, it won’t end pretty for them.

IMO, if the Bengals came out and said that they’re not going to trade Chad Johnson because they consider him an integral part of the team and if they did trade them they don’t think that they would do as well this season, they’d do more to diffuse the situation than to trot Marvin Lewis out there to call his bluff and practically dare him to throw more tantrums. (maybe they’ve already done this, I’m not a Bengals fan)

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19662 Vox Veritas Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:23:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19662 Dude, it's the Bengals. No matter their record, they'll never be winners. Dude, it’s the Bengals. No matter their record, they’ll never be winners.

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]]> By: cincyeaglefan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19656 cincyeaglefan Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:14:28 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19656 As usual people don't see the big picture. Trading a guy who's about to pay you back money you paid him for two POTENTIAL players doesn't make sense. It is more important to start a precedent with these jerks NOW. You guys who don't follow the Bengals don't really know what you're talking about. Chad is NOT an impact player. He doesn't catch game winning balls, he drops more key third down passes then he catches. He's not even the best WR on the team. You are overhyping a guy that is involved in 6-12 plays a game, and not all of them positive. Not to mention its not like the Bengals have a great draft history anyway. As usual people don’t see the big picture. Trading a guy who’s about to pay you back money you paid him for two POTENTIAL players doesn’t make sense. It is more important to start a precedent with these jerks NOW. You guys who don’t follow the Bengals don’t really know what you’re talking about. Chad is NOT an impact player. He doesn’t catch game winning balls, he drops more key third down passes then he catches. He’s not even the best WR on the team. You are overhyping a guy that is involved in 6-12 plays a game, and not all of them positive. Not to mention its not like the Bengals have a great draft history anyway.

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]]> By: preludetosmack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19655 preludetosmack Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:12:39 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19655 The only trade that the Redskins can offer that the Bengals will take is Santana Moss + 17th overall this year for Chad Johnson. We're eating Chad's $8M cap hit, the redskins can eat Moss's $7M cap hit. The only trade that the Redskins can offer that the Bengals will take is Santana Moss + 17th overall this year for Chad Johnson.

We’re eating Chad’s $8M cap hit, the redskins can eat Moss’s $7M cap hit.

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]]> By: diehardbearsfan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19652 diehardbearsfan Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:06:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19652 I've got a new respect for the Bengals organization. Play hard ball. How are you gonna let this punk dictate the way you run a franchise. I would love to see him crawling back. This is gonna be so sweet I’ve got a new respect for the Bengals organization. Play hard ball. How are you gonna let this punk dictate the way you run a franchise. I would love to see him crawling back. This is gonna be so sweet

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]]> By: Kotite http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19651 Kotite Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:04:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19651 When Bengals fans are referring to the Bruce Coslet era as "the good old days," you know there's a problem. Cincy needs to get while the getting's good, cuz there is no happy ending down the road they're on. When Bengals fans are referring to the Bruce Coslet era as “the good old days,” you know there’s a problem. Cincy needs to get while the getting’s good, cuz there is no happy ending down the road they’re on.

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]]> By: mrmagoo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19650 mrmagoo Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:03:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19650 The Bengals are not winning here. What the Chargers did to the Giants when Eli refused to go to SD is winning. We may cheer because Chad is such a look at me guy, but you don't hurt yourself to prove a point. Move him and move on. This is the spiritual successor to the loyalty clause. You can make someone do most anything but Mike Brown still hasn't figured out how much better it works when you can get someone to want to do something. The Bengals are not winning here.
What the Chargers did to the Giants when Eli refused to go to SD is winning. We may cheer because Chad is such a look at me guy, but you don’t hurt yourself to prove a point. Move him and move on. This is the spiritual successor to the loyalty clause. You can make someone do most anything but Mike Brown still hasn’t figured out how much better it works when you can get someone to want to do something.

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]]> By: gallaghedj311 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19649 gallaghedj311 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:01:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19649 Let him rot on the bench if he wants to. Stick to your guns, Cincy. This guy makes me sick. I (Eagles fan) want nothing to do with him. He's a cancer. Let him sit a year and get another year older, lose some money....and maybe next year there will be another WR or two out there that aren't distractions and teams will covet them more than some loud mouth idiot who is the farthest thing from a team player. Let him rot on the bench if he wants to. Stick to your guns, Cincy. This guy makes me sick. I (Eagles fan) want nothing to do with him. He’s a cancer. Let him sit a year and get another year older, lose some money….and maybe next year there will be another WR or two out there that aren’t distractions and teams will covet them more than some loud mouth idiot who is the farthest thing from a team player.

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]]> By: Ogar http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19641 Ogar Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:39:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19641 When does Chad Johnson start making comments about Marvin Lewis? The fact that in 5 seasons under Lewis they only had ONE winning season. That Lewis is supposed to be a defensive genius yet what limited success the Bengals have had is because of their offense since their defense year-after-year ranks among the worst in the NFL even though in the past 4 years they devoted the majority of their first day picks on defense. Or how about the organization for drafting players with questionable characters who can't contribute because they are suspended by the league. When does Chad Johnson start making comments about Marvin Lewis? The fact that in 5 seasons under Lewis they only had ONE winning season. That Lewis is supposed to be a defensive genius yet what limited success the Bengals have had is because of their offense since their defense year-after-year ranks among the worst in the NFL even though in the past 4 years they devoted the majority of their first day picks on defense.

Or how about the organization for drafting players with questionable characters who can’t contribute because they are suspended by the league.

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]]> By: jmawarrior http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19640 jmawarrior Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:39:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19640 It's good the Bengals are standing up to this idiot. He can't even run the routes correctly. Josereyeso, the bengals are going forward as if Chad will not be there...so they are planning ahead. If the bengals do not stand up to this jerk...then in a few more years we will have another situation with another Rosenhaus client. This will send a clear message that the inmates do not run the asylum. That is exactly Chad would be if he was not playing football....at least he still will be able to wear orange. It’s good the Bengals are standing up to this idiot. He can’t even run the routes correctly. Josereyeso, the bengals are going forward as if Chad will not be there…so they are planning ahead. If the bengals do not stand up to this jerk…then in a few more years we will have another situation with another Rosenhaus client. This will send a clear message that the inmates do not run the asylum. That is exactly Chad would be if he was not playing football….at least he still will be able to wear orange.

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]]> By: JohnStofa http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19639 JohnStofa Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:38:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19639 The biggest risk Chad runs is not playing and having Carson Palmer turn somebody else into the "next Chad Johnson". From my observations it seems a lot of Carson's issues have been directly correlated to his offensive line woes. Last year both starting tackles spent significant time out of the lineup with injuries and the middle of the line is still trying to find out if Eric Ghiaciuc can play and replacing Eric Steinbach. Give this guy time in the pocket and I think we'll see him make wide receivers a helluva lot of money. Favre did this every 3 years his whole career. Let him sit.....the worst thing that can happen? They go from chanting "Who dey?" to "Who dat?" The biggest risk Chad runs is not playing and having Carson Palmer turn somebody else into the “next Chad Johnson”.

From my observations it seems a lot of Carson’s issues have been directly correlated to his offensive line woes. Last year both starting tackles spent significant time out of the lineup with injuries and the middle of the line is still trying to find out if Eric Ghiaciuc can play and replacing Eric Steinbach.

Give this guy time in the pocket and I think we’ll see him make wide receivers a helluva lot of money. Favre did this every 3 years his whole career.

Let him sit…..the worst thing that can happen? They go from chanting “Who dey?” to “Who dat?”

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]]> By: Cincy90 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19629 Cincy90 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:17:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19629 It's really pretty simple. You do not trade him, you just play hardball. You approach the draft and the upcoming season as if he blew out his knee and is gone for the year. If he ends up showing up and playing, great, if not, you have planned for it. Having said that, I guarantee you that he will show up the week before the season starts. So many veterans do this for various reasons. Chad is pouting so he will try to prove his point. He scares the Bengals, gets to miss the hot summer camp workouts, comes in fresh and most importantly...gets a paycheck!! He won't leave all that money on the table, what the hell is he going to do, work at Wal Mart? He needs the cash! If he doesn't get paid this year that money will be lost forever. It’s really pretty simple. You do not trade him, you just play hardball. You approach the draft and the upcoming season as if he blew out his knee and is gone for the year. If he ends up showing up and playing, great, if not, you have planned for it. Having said that, I guarantee you that he will show up the week before the season starts. So many veterans do this for various reasons. Chad is pouting so he will try to prove his point. He scares the Bengals, gets to miss the hot summer camp workouts, comes in fresh and most importantly…gets a paycheck!! He won’t leave all that money on the table, what the hell is he going to do, work at Wal Mart? He needs the cash! If he doesn’t get paid this year that money will be lost forever.

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]]> By: hitdog042 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19622 hitdog042 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:05:23 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19622 Why would the Bengals trade him for the lame Washington offer? Take last years draft into consideration. Where Washington picks, and who they offered, turned out to be Reggie Nelson and Jonathan Wade. Do people here really think the Bengals should settle for that for a future hall of fame WR in his prime coming off 5 consecutive pro bowl appearances, all because he has decided for some unknown reason he wants to play somewhere else? Heck no. Until Snyder ups the offer to a 1st, a 2nd, AND Santana Moss, the Bengals will not even listen. And that is the right thing to do. It's bad enough the Bengals take a 4M salary cap hit per year for 2 years once he's traded. People need to realize the logistics of this before they post dumb things. Chad is not getting traded unless the offer benefits the Bengals. Period. Chad needs to call Darnay Scott and Carl Pickens and ask them how this all worked out for them when they went up against Mike Brown. Why would the Bengals trade him for the lame Washington offer? Take last years draft into consideration. Where Washington picks, and who they offered, turned out to be Reggie Nelson and Jonathan Wade.

Do people here really think the Bengals should settle for that for a future hall of fame WR in his prime coming off 5 consecutive pro bowl appearances, all because he has decided for some unknown reason he wants to play somewhere else?

Heck no. Until Snyder ups the offer to a 1st, a 2nd, AND Santana Moss, the Bengals will not even listen. And that is the right thing to do. It’s bad enough the Bengals take a 4M salary cap hit per year for 2 years once he’s traded.

People need to realize the logistics of this before they post dumb things. Chad is not getting traded unless the offer benefits the Bengals. Period.

Chad needs to call Darnay Scott and Carl Pickens and ask them how this all worked out for them when they went up against Mike Brown.

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]]> By: eagles20 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19618 eagles20 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:02:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19618 chad is a cancer and no one except the redskin turd collectors would take him. why would the skins want that on thier team? i guess coach snyder has not learned his lesson yet about how to build a team. the bengals did the right thing but that team is so out of hand with arrests and suspensions, just another chapter in that book. until they overhall the mentality there it willbe another 8-8, 7-9 season with a couple more arrests. chad is a cancer and no one except the redskin turd collectors would take him. why would the skins want that on thier team? i guess coach snyder has not learned his lesson yet about how to build a team. the bengals did the right thing but that team is so out of hand with arrests and suspensions, just another chapter in that book. until they overhall the mentality there it willbe another 8-8, 7-9 season with a couple more arrests.

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]]> By: nerfball http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19610 nerfball Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:47:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19610 this whole thing is abysmally dumb. just trade the idiot already. this can't be good for the bengals in any way. this whole thing is abysmally dumb. just trade the idiot already. this can’t be good for the bengals in any way.

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]]> By: smiley http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19607 smiley Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:44:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19607 Dear Daniel Snyder, You just received additional leverage in your attempt to trade for this psycho. Please use it wisely. St. Joe Dear Daniel Snyder,
You just received additional leverage in your attempt to trade for this psycho. Please use it wisely.
St. Joe

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]]> By: cincyownsyou http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19596 cincyownsyou Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:23:55 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19596 I think once he figures out he isn't going any where, he'll end this circus. He won't retire and he won't go bankrupt so He'll show and produce. I still stay good for cincinnati for putting their foot down on this. It will help show these players that they don't always get what they wont and maybe next time think about saying that contract a little more.. WHO-DEY! I think once he figures out he isn’t going any where, he’ll end this circus. He won’t retire and he won’t go bankrupt so He’ll show and produce. I still stay good for cincinnati for putting their foot down on this. It will help show these players that they don’t always get what they wont and maybe next time think about saying that contract a little more..

WHO-DEY!

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]]> By: josereyes0 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19591 josereyes0 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:02:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19591 The Bengals are an incredibly stupid and stubborn team. With Chad Johnson's situation up in the air they can't feasibly make any plans to have him in the roster or not. Teams that succeed think ahead of time to all the teams they face and make certain plans. For example, a team might decide to acquire an extra DB rather than a DL because they may be facing more teams with a spread offenses. For example, if they decide to trade Chad Johnson, then they would know for sure, sure he'd win the battle but at least they'd have a set plan and could focus on a wide-out with the traded pick and perhaps add some depth to a defense that has needs all around. Otherwise they go into the season with T. J. Houshmandzadeh, Glenn Holt (undrafted 3rd year player), Antonio Chatman & Doug Gabriel. The Bengals are an incredibly stupid and stubborn team. With Chad Johnson’s situation up in the air they can’t feasibly make any plans to have him in the roster or not. Teams that succeed think ahead of time to all the teams they face and make certain plans. For example, a team might decide to acquire an extra DB rather than a DL because they may be facing more teams with a spread offenses.

For example, if they decide to trade Chad Johnson, then they would know for sure, sure he’d win the battle but at least they’d have a set plan and could focus on a wide-out with the traded pick and perhaps add some depth to a defense that has needs all around. Otherwise they go into the season with T. J. Houshmandzadeh, Glenn Holt (undrafted 3rd year player), Antonio Chatman & Doug Gabriel.

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]]> By: stugacz http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19590 stugacz Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:59:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/24/chad-serious-about-not-showing-up/#comment-19590 If the Bengals take a stand with this immature jag-off they may actually benefit in the long run. By sticking to their guns they will be sending a clear message to T. J. and others around the league(including future employees & their greedy agents)that a contract is more than the point where negotiations begin. They need to be firm and let this jag-off show his a** for all to see. In the long run they will be the winners. After it is over and done with....send him to Al Davis' successor....Jerrah Jones. If the Bengals take a stand with this immature jag-off they may actually benefit in the long run. By sticking to their guns they will be sending a clear message to T. J. and others around the league(including future employees & their greedy agents)that a contract is more than the point where negotiations begin. They need to be firm and let this jag-off show his a** for all to see. In the long run they will be the winners.

After it is over and done with….send him to Al Davis’ successor….Jerrah Jones.

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