Comments on: RYAN COULD SLIDE http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:29:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: ibuc0502 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19460 ibuc0502 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:40:21 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19460 I'm sorry...but KC does not need a qb. No one, not Tom Brady, not Peyton Manning would be able to perform behind that joke of an offensive line. I hate Carl Peterson.... I’m sorry…but KC does not need a qb. No one, not Tom Brady, not Peyton Manning would be able to perform behind that joke of an offensive line. I hate Carl Peterson….

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]]> By: DozenDeuce http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19429 DozenDeuce Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:42:33 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19429 People wondered why Bears GM Jerry Angelo personally attended two Boston College games this past season. Surely, they mused, it must have been to evaluate LT Gosder Cherilus because Chicago would never have the opportunity to get Matt Ryan all the way down at #14! Maybe it's a good thing Angelo didn't listen to anyone else and did his due diligence. People wondered why Bears GM Jerry Angelo personally attended two Boston College games this past season. Surely, they mused, it must have been to evaluate LT Gosder Cherilus because Chicago would never have the opportunity to get Matt Ryan all the way down at #14! Maybe it’s a good thing Angelo didn’t listen to anyone else and did his due diligence.

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]]> By: shaslers http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19403 shaslers Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:39:37 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19403 Zero chance of falling below eight. Zero chance of falling below eight.

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]]> By: screaming sheep http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19354 screaming sheep Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:37:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19354 Yeah, I don't see the Panthers using 13 on him. They may trade out to someone, KC from 17, who wants him in front of the Bears. Of course, Marty Hurney has only found 2 starters in the last 3 years, 26 picks overall. So yes, the Panthers take him at 13 and he flops. Yeah, I don’t see the Panthers using 13 on him. They may trade out to someone, KC from 17, who wants him in front of the Bears.
Of course, Marty Hurney has only found 2 starters in the last 3 years, 26 picks overall. So yes, the Panthers take him at 13 and he flops.

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]]> By: jbwbubba http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19267 jbwbubba Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:24:34 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19267 Kiper was on ESPN earliler saying if Ryan goes past 8th to the Ravens that he would "pack up his hair gel" and quit the whole thing. I hope the Panthers pass, they have a good young QB in Matt Moore and more pressing needs. Kiper was on ESPN earliler saying if Ryan goes past 8th to the Ravens that he would “pack up his hair gel” and quit the whole thing.

I hope the Panthers pass, they have a good young QB in Matt Moore and more pressing needs.

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]]> By: florio4prez http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19264 florio4prez Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:20:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19264 Quick, name the current starting KC QB... If the Chefs, with their now 13 draft picks, including two 1sts, one 2nd and three 3rds, do NOT take QB Ryan with the the # 5 overall pick, it should only be because DE Chris Long slid to them (Jared who?) and they use the # 17 or #35 overall for QB Brohm or QB Flacco. If DE Chris Long does NOT to slide to # 5 (and he should not), the Chefs MUST take QB Ryan there. Quick, name the current starting KC QB…

If the Chefs, with their now 13 draft picks, including two 1sts, one 2nd and three 3rds, do NOT take QB Ryan with the the # 5 overall pick, it should only be because DE Chris Long slid to them (Jared who?) and they use the # 17 or #35 overall for QB Brohm or QB Flacco.

If DE Chris Long does NOT to slide to # 5 (and he should not), the Chefs MUST take QB Ryan there.

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]]> By: Ozz http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19250 Ozz Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:05:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19250 bcmcknight77, YOU wouldn't pass on Ryan at 14, but this is Bears management we're talking about here. I'm not getting my hopes up. bcmcknight77,

YOU wouldn’t pass on Ryan at 14, but this is Bears management we’re talking about here.

I’m not getting my hopes up.

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]]> By: ppdoc http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19228 ppdoc Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:46:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19228 you heard it here. matt ryan does not get past the ravens at #8. they'll turn in the card faster than Malcom Kelly ran his 40. Oh wait a minute..... you heard it here. matt ryan does not get past the ravens at #8. they’ll turn in the card faster than Malcom Kelly ran his 40. Oh wait a minute…..

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]]> By: unga http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19216 unga Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:31:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19216 Kerplunk! The sound of Ryan's draft stock dropping. Kerplunk! The sound of Ryan’s draft stock dropping.

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]]> By: Dirty_Waters http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19212 Dirty_Waters Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:30:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19212 The Bills don't need a QB? The Bills don’t need a QB?

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]]> By: brian_21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19196 brian_21 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:12:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19196 We, the Bears, are stubbornly ignorant? NO WAY. Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton to the rescue ... We, the Bears, are stubbornly ignorant? NO WAY.

Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton to the rescue …

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]]> By: B-dawk http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19193 B-dawk Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:08:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19193 Thankfully, the rounds are shorter this year, that way we won't have to watch his future ex-wife agonize over all the lost alimony for hours like we did with Quinn. Thankfully, the rounds are shorter this year, that way we won’t have to watch his future ex-wife agonize over all the lost alimony for hours like we did with Quinn.

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]]> By: bcmcknight77 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19191 bcmcknight77 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:06:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19191 As a Bears fan, I can tell you after stomaching Grossman, surviving Orton, and Enduring Griese, under no uncertain terms would the Bears ever, under any circumstance, pass on Ryan at 14. A Leinart-like slide is the worst possible scenario for this kid. As a Bears fan, I can tell you after stomaching Grossman, surviving Orton, and Enduring Griese, under no uncertain terms would the Bears ever, under any circumstance, pass on Ryan at 14. A Leinart-like slide is the worst possible scenario for this kid.

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]]> By: Jeremiah W http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19190 Jeremiah W Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:05:39 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19190 As a Raven fan that is what I have been saying all along, why can't we trade back and still get him if we wan't? Say Ellis is there at 8, I think the Ravens would take a deal with NO to drop back to 10. If someone else really wants Ryan the Raven will trade back and take Flacco Henne or Brohm or someone else later than round 2 if they are all gone by 38 (doubt it). Personally I do not see any major difference in the 3 of them other than the money. As a Raven fan that is what I have been saying all along, why can’t we trade back and still get him if we wan’t?

Say Ellis is there at 8, I think the Ravens would take a deal with NO to drop back to 10. If someone else really wants Ryan the Raven will trade back and take Flacco Henne or Brohm or someone else later than round 2 if they are all gone by 38 (doubt it).

Personally I do not see any major difference in the 3 of them other than the money.

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]]> By: Shamrock http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19188 Shamrock Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:04:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19188 You're trusting that Herm Edwards and King Carl are good enough talent evaluators to make a rational decision on their QB. They might just come to the conclusion that the Alabama kid can hack it. Edwards left the cupboard bare at the Jets, so I see no reason for him to make intelligent personell decisions in KC. You’re trusting that Herm Edwards and King Carl are good enough talent evaluators to make a rational decision on their QB.

They might just come to the conclusion that the Alabama kid can hack it.

Edwards left the cupboard bare at the Jets, so I see no reason for him to make intelligent personell decisions in KC.

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]]> By: galenrox http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19186 galenrox Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:01:23 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19186 Kyle Orton is constantly underestimated. Yes, I understand he sucked in 2005 as a rookie no one expected to play, but since then he's done nothing but work out and study under Brian Griese, who's game knowledge far exceeds his ability. He's 6'4", strong, smart, hard working, and has had a great mentor, I expect him to be very good this year as hopefully the starter. There's a reason they gave him the same extension they gave Rex. Kyle Orton is constantly underestimated. Yes, I understand he sucked in 2005 as a rookie no one expected to play, but since then he’s done nothing but work out and study under Brian Griese, who’s game knowledge far exceeds his ability. He’s 6′4″, strong, smart, hard working, and has had a great mentor, I expect him to be very good this year as hopefully the starter. There’s a reason they gave him the same extension they gave Rex.

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]]> By: TF http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19184 TF Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:59:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19184 Doesn't seem very comparable. Quinn was the huge hype that many thought should be top 5, but most knew better -- in a year, we're more sane people had little separation between Quinn and 3-5 other prospects. Ryan doesn't have the pedigree and the hype but apparently most see him as a top ten pick that can make it, with little other options. Sure, it's nice to consider who wants him and who doesn't but.... well, just get back to Walsh and Goodell. Those are interesting stories you have a grasp of. This seems like inane filler. Doesn’t seem very comparable. Quinn was the huge hype that many thought should be top 5, but most knew better — in a year, we’re more sane people had little separation between Quinn and 3-5 other prospects. Ryan doesn’t have the pedigree and the hype but apparently most see him as a top ten pick that can make it, with little other options. Sure, it’s nice to consider who wants him and who doesn’t but…. well, just get back to Walsh and Goodell. Those are interesting stories you have a grasp of. This seems like inane filler.

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]]> By: Pastabelly http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19177 Pastabelly Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:48:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19177 Is the Jake Long to Miami thing a ruse. :) Is the Jake Long to Miami thing a ruse. :)

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]]> By: skaybaltimore http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19174 skaybaltimore Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:45:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19174 Come on draft day already. This is just ridiculous. Come on draft day already. This is just ridiculous.

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]]> By: trikee http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19172 trikee Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:41:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19172 i think you just want him to slide because you enjoy the agony. i do too. i think you just want him to slide because you enjoy the agony. i do too.

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]]> By: xskippzx http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19170 xskippzx Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:40:55 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19170 COLT BRENNAN 08! COLT BRENNAN 08!

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]]> By: thejetsblog http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19168 thejetsblog Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:30:34 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/23/ryan-could-slide/#comment-19168 nothing like piling hypotheticals on top of hypotheticals ... oy. nothing like piling hypotheticals on top of hypotheticals … oy.

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