In a stunning but not surprising move, Bengals coach Marvin Lewis has reversed course, and he now admits that the Redskins made a specific contract offer for receiver Chad Johnson.
“Once I actually read what was reported, I have to be truthful and say that the story is accurate,” Lewis said on Tuesday afternoon, according to ESPN. “Unfortunately, I didn’t read it until after our press conference.”
So why wasn’t he truthful in the first place? Because he didn’t know that there was a published report that an offer was made?
We think that Lewis also opted to lie about the offer (a first-rounder in 2008 and a third-rounder that can upgrade to a first-rounder in 2009) because he is concerned that the magnitude of the package that the Redskins put on the table will prompt a storm of pressure from the fans and the media to do the deal. The Bengals, who can no longer use the “loyalty clause” to force players to not say mean things about the team, can now merely force a player against his will to play for the Bengals or no one after he decides to pop off publicly.
We also suspect that Lewis received a nod of approval from owner Mike Brown to acknowledge that the offer was indeed made, because we think that Brown is so determined to not trade Johnson that he wants people to realize what the Bengals have rejected in order to keep him.
But this approach will only prompt more criticism and frustration from the fans who have grown tired of Chad Johnson’s routine. The organization might be ready to go to the mattresses over this, to the detriment of the franchise’s prospects for the coming campaign and beyond, but the fans aren’t.
The offseason is all about selling hope. The notion that the Bengals have turned down a chance to pick up real value for Johnson and remove that dark cloud now hovering over the Queen City will likely cause many a Cincy fan to abandon hope, only days before the one event in the non-football months that typically produces the most of it.
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April 22nd, 2008 at 5:58 pm
I still don’t view that as a good deal. Spend a ton of money on a couple (possible) of first rounders…try to absorb the cap hit from trading 85…This team seems to always be faced with cap problems even with no names on defense.
As far as the rest of team, I’m sure they all know that he’s an asshole and won’t pay attention. He’s been this way since Oregon State, no one noticed before.
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April 22nd, 2008 at 6:06 pm
If the Redskins offered a 1st and a 3rd with escalators to a 1st, you’d think the Bengals could have been able to talk a little more out of the Redskins.
If they (the Bengals) could have gotten a 1st and a 1st straight out, they’d be idiots–no matter what precedent they’re trying to set–for not taking the deal. However, a 1st and a 3rd? That’s not a phenomenal deal, so I can see why they would turn it down.
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April 22nd, 2008 at 6:08 pm
im just curious but why does the skins need another wide reciver??i mean dont they have randel el and santana moss? those guys may not have size on thier side but they are freeking quick. this brings me to my main point again. why the hell would washington be making a request to trade for ocho stinko??? anyone care to enlighten me?
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April 22nd, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Charlotte is the Queen City, not that dump in Ohio.
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April 22nd, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Here’s the simpliest solution:
1.)Let players out of their contracts anytime they want. They sigh their contracts and honor it until they feel they can get more money or finish their career with a championship team.
2.)Let Washington have no salary cap. So when a player feels like he wants to make more, he can opt out of his contract and go play for the skins.
3.) Let the Patriots continue to cheat and win every Superbowl from here to the end of time. When a play gets towards the end of his career, he can opt out of his contract to go play for the New England Cheaters so he can get his Superbowl ring before he retires.
This is a win win for everyone. The players get want they want. The cheaters keep on winning. The skins get to over pay for players. And 90% of the fans stop watching. The owners lose money. The game is run into the ground. Florio has to get a real lawyer job. And many of us actually get a life.
Problem solved.
With all that said, I am kind of surprised the skins offered so much for stinko, and I’m also surprised that cinci turned it down.
But I’m also surprise more skins fans have spoken up about not wanting him on the team.
And for those of you who want to point to TO and say stinko won’t be a problem, I predict a TO meltdown this year.
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April 22nd, 2008 at 8:01 pm
It’s probably just that Marvin Lewis was trying to keep the whole thing quiet but b/c he used to work for the Redskins he got some backlash from some guys he knows wanting to know why he was lying. So to save face he came clean and said he made an error.
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April 22nd, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Since management abilities are a tie, who would win at arm wrestling between the Bengals and Cardinals? They both suck Sooooooooo Bad. Maybe Baseballs Texas Rangers would like in on that too. My Rangers Blow.
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April 22nd, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Boy Snake, why not use your real name Mike Brown. Yeah, you guys have a history of having the right tactics. Congrats on all of those Super Bowl Victorys. (Super Bowl of Dumb incompetant owners/management)
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April 22nd, 2008 at 11:06 pm
As previously stated by other Bengals fans, I too want to see Chad rot before we trade him.
I realize how stupid this is, but I also realize that Chad is a spoiled brat.
If Mike and Marvin make this trade they only further to perception that the Bengals are inept by trading away one of their best players and mortgaging the future of the team to do so.
In this respect I am begging Marvin and Mike to continue their stand against Ocho Psycho and make the players hold up their end of the bargain. Cardinal fans should also embrace this with Anquan Boldin. Other fans should support the Bengals for the precedent they are setting.
I think it all goes back to Paul Brown. Paul would never have allowed this to happen and Chad’s career would have been over. Period. No questions about it. Keep up the hard ball.
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April 22nd, 2008 at 11:57 pm
I’m not saying the bengals organization hasn’t made mistakes or been inept in the past but don’t call them stupid for not taking this offer. Chad Johnson for a first and a third. Thats right a third that could become a first but no one here knows what needs to happen for the pick to be upgraded.
It all seems so simple but in reality there is more to consider then trading a player for some picks. There are things to consider like rosters, depth charts, team chemistry, organization policies, setting dangerous precedents, lost investment, the upcoming season, the future of the team, replacing the talent your trading. Hell the salary cap alone raises the issues of cap hits, paying replacement players, paying the new draft picks, figuring out who to cut and the implications of those cuts on the roster.
this isn’t as easy as fantasy football so don’t knock an organization when you barely take into account everything they have to when making a decision as big as this one.
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April 23rd, 2008 at 12:11 am
SO keep a disgruntled Douche for Spite? Two firsts that could add so much while freeing up big money to get a free agent in the offseason or Keep a player that embarrasses you at every turn and shows the rest of the Players how player friendly you are. What are your other players thinking. Get rid of the Crap that does not want to be there and get good guys that does. You guys brought this on yourself drafting all these turds. But if you would like to get crap for him, It falls right in line with doing business as usual. Nice to know the fans are as dumb as the Management.
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April 23rd, 2008 at 12:21 am
BTW if I were a douche like Chad, I would go out and get a nagging injury, first week of Training Camp. Then it will linger and keep me out all year. I will take your roster spot, Your money, and eat up cap space. So stick that in your butt Father. Stupid Bengals fans. End up with nothing like Philly.
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April 23rd, 2008 at 8:09 am
It’s not that the fans of the Bengals are stupid, but we are tired of being trampled over by players who gain the spotlight in our city and then cry about money.
Chad got his payday years ago, before his first contract was up. It’s time that fans of all sports teams start holding their players accountable.
Perhaps this all stems out from the previous posters comment on drafting turds. Cincy got burned by that, why should we get burned on a guy that isn’t in legal trouble? The franchise is right in this circumstance.
BTW, any one in Cincy down for throwing a retirement party for Chad at $20 a pop and then donating the money raised for a charity? I couldn’t think of a better way to send a clear message to Chad. We’re giving the money to people who need it, and don’t cry for it.
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April 23rd, 2008 at 9:03 am
Snake, a quite accurate assessment of the situation. Trading Ocho Psycho is tantamount to handing more power to Drew Rosenhaus. Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis will not be bullied, extorted or forced by any agent to act on an his (agent’s) agenda. Marvin told the press yesterday that Johnson can sit out for all he cares. I applaud any owner that doesn’t wilt from a situation clearly organized by a power hungry agent who wants to prove to current and future clients that he can get any NFL organization to do as he commands.
This is about money from the get-go. According to some blogs out there, Chad apparently has had some financial difficulties. ( How that could be is mind boggling).And now he needs a new signing bonus. It’s is no coincidence that the Redskins were first to the table- they having an especially close relationship with Rosenhaus. Nevertheless, this rejection was heard loud and clear, and either someone exceeds that offer, or Chad sits.
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April 23rd, 2008 at 9:22 am
Bottom line is there aren’t that many notible prospects in the draft this year. If the Redskins give up their first rounder for a player that you know has an impressive resume in the NFL already at a position you need to fill for your team then it’s worth it. All for a first rounder in this years nubbins draft, and a 3rd rounder next year. No Brainer.
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April 23rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm
I agree not to let chad go.. At some point of time a team has to stand up to these players.. you all should support cincinnati for doing this becuase you never know if your team will be next to have to deal with this problem! Once chad figures out that he isn’t going anywhere, he’ll start to produce agian. He will not just sit on the side line racking up fines. Once agian you all need to support cincinnati standing up to this because your team could be next…
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April 23rd, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Letting him go helps boost team moral, and clean up the image. Yes it sends a message that crying will get you what you want, but you are not giving him up for free. He will leave at free agency. Get two firsts, and trade them for Roy WIlliams or Anquan Boldin. Dont screw yourself to make a point.
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April 23rd, 2008 at 4:24 pm
I don’t hear too many Philly fans disagreeing with the tactic of holding onto him.
The bottom line is everytime you give into a TO or Chad Johnson you open your own team to being leveraged the same way. Chad loves to play…he’s damn good. If he makes all this noise in the offseason and then came in and produced, I’d even be more impressed.
What does Chad play for though? Is it really the money after you are paid over $10m in signing bonuses in the last 5 years? I think he wants the adulation and recognition. Let him sit on the sidelines and get nothing. No Pro Bowls. No fat endorsements. No HOF ‘20. No Prime Time TD celebrations.
I’m sure he can keep calling into the ESPN talk shows all he wants…by the way, how’s that pay?
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April 23rd, 2008 at 8:48 pm
I agree sit his butt down an see how long he keeps it up. There is no doubt he is a good ball player (top 5WR), but not only is he making his self look bad but the team and his fan’s. I promise if he ever plays for the bengals again he will be booed. Let him suffer sit the bench…..if he goes anywhere he will never play the same again he dont know how lucky he is to have a QB like palmer……
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April 23rd, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Let him sit………………
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April 24th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
sorry dildov, (know spelled incorrectly, just drop the v) Cincy is the Queen City, been called that for years. Ocho Psyco is represented by Rosenwhore….how have his other clients acted. This is a situation that MUST be addressed by the Commissioner. It will not get any better until the league address this all too often situation. Wait till all the Brownie fans are faced with the same situation with KW, jr and the Michigan Mouth. It will happen. It has to stop sometime. I was brought up to believe a contract is a contract. And, BTW, the Psyco does have money problems….too many cars and too many kids
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