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Comments on: EAGLES TO MAKE A MAJOR MOVE AT RECEIVER? http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:05:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: pdyerosu http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18461 pdyerosu Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:53:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18461 KY, you pay no attention to the league if you think Lito Sheppard would be the nickel in Detroit behind Leigh Bodden and Brian Kelly. Injury prone? Very! But when healthy, Lito is one of the elite corners in this league. Just ask T.O. any time the two match up against each other. And Super Florio, they signed one TE to compete at FB and another to help out on special teams and add insurance incase LJ Smith gets hurt again. Other than that, check his stats. His red zone numbers are pretty good. KY, you pay no attention to the league if you think Lito Sheppard would be the nickel in Detroit behind Leigh Bodden and Brian Kelly. Injury prone? Very! But when healthy, Lito is one of the elite corners in this league. Just ask T.O. any time the two match up against each other. And Super Florio, they signed one TE to compete at FB and another to help out on special teams and add insurance incase LJ Smith gets hurt again. Other than that, check his stats. His red zone numbers are pretty good.

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]]> By: eaglemd http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18420 eaglemd Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:23:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18420 Roy would be exciting to have, but don't know if he is #19 overall worthy. That would give the eagles great options at WR, but could leave a hole that #19 would fill(OL,S,DL).Even if it is just for depth. And I agree, LJ fumblesmith is only great at fumbling (Your welcome, Giants)even when he gets lucky(Vikes playoff game) and not catching TD's. Otherwise, Andy Reid uaually makes smart, good decisions regarding roster moves. We just have to trust him. Roy would be exciting to have, but don’t know if he is #19 overall worthy. That would give the eagles great options at WR, but could leave a hole that #19 would fill(OL,S,DL).Even if it is just for depth. And I agree, LJ fumblesmith is only great at fumbling (Your welcome, Giants)even when he gets lucky(Vikes playoff game) and not catching TD’s. Otherwise, Andy Reid uaually makes smart, good decisions regarding roster moves. We just have to trust him.

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]]> By: korikill http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18039 korikill Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:46:50 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18039 Roy will be a Lion this year, then get franchised next year. Roy will be a Lion this year, then get franchised next year.

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]]> By: EAGLESFAN1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18038 EAGLESFAN1 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:45:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18038 DALLAS COULDNT BUY A SUPERBOWL WIN LAST YEAR AND THEY WONT BE ABLE TO DO IT THIS YEAR EITHER.....E A G L E S!!!! DALLAS COULDNT BUY A SUPERBOWL WIN LAST YEAR AND THEY WONT BE ABLE TO DO IT THIS YEAR EITHER…..E A G L E S!!!!

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]]> By: jembo13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18030 jembo13 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:14:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18030 In a similar situation as Florio pointed out in any potential trade for Jared Allen, Roy Williams must negotiate a new contract with the new team. No team will give a high pick let alone a 1st rounder for a player with only one year remaining on his contract. Roy essentially could void any trade he does not approve; i.e. Roy could very well pick the team he plays for in 2008. In a similar situation as Florio pointed out in any potential trade for Jared Allen, Roy Williams must negotiate a new contract with the new team. No team will give a high pick let alone a 1st rounder for a player with only one year remaining on his contract. Roy essentially could void any trade he does not approve; i.e. Roy could very well pick the team he plays for in 2008.

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]]> By: DanSnyder http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18028 DanSnyder Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:02:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18028 Mid to late round picks dont have nearly the value as the top 10 picks. If any eagles fans think Litosheppard and #19 let alone #19 by itself is too much for roy williams then you think like andy reid and thats why your lovely city can expect another mediocre season. #19 alone IMO is not enough for a reciever of williams caliber. The redskins would trade their #21 in a second with the possibly of a 3rd attached because this is a young proven reciever of almost star quality who doesnt seem to have the whole prima donna thing going on. That is truely hard to comeby as teams that have recievers like that tend to hold onto them. Dear Matt Millen, Package Roy Williams up in a deal and send him to the redskins via Fedex. In return will shall grant you the wish of the #19th overall pick and throw in a 3rd, BUT ONE TIME SPECIAL OFFER #19 and #5th round and we will slap Matt Millen rulez! stickers on all of detroit's fedex packages for all of the 2008 football season. Best Wishes, Daniel Snyder Mid to late round picks dont have nearly the value as the top 10 picks. If any eagles fans think Litosheppard and #19 let alone #19 by itself is too much for roy williams then you think like andy reid and thats why your lovely city can expect another mediocre season.

#19 alone IMO is not enough for a reciever of williams caliber. The redskins would trade their #21 in a second with the possibly of a 3rd attached because this is a young proven reciever of almost star quality who doesnt seem to have the whole prima donna thing going on. That is truely hard to comeby as teams that have recievers like that tend to hold onto them.

Dear Matt Millen,

Package Roy Williams up in a deal and send him to the redskins via Fedex. In return will shall grant you the wish of the #19th overall pick and throw in a 3rd, BUT ONE TIME SPECIAL OFFER #19 and #5th round and we will slap Matt Millen rulez! stickers on all of detroit’s fedex packages for all of the 2008 football season.

Best Wishes,
Daniel Snyder

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]]> By: dyhardSkinsFan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18026 dyhardSkinsFan Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:52:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18026 He has 3 career fumbles. Witten has 3. Cooley has 4. Shockey has 5. Do some research. He's still not better than any of these Tightends. not worth the money at all He has 3 career fumbles. Witten has 3. Cooley has 4. Shockey has 5. Do some research.

He’s still not better than any of these Tightends. not worth the money at all

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]]> By: DanSnyder http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18025 DanSnyder Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:48:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18025 I WANT MY APPLEJACKS I WANT MY APPLEJACKS

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]]> By: bevomav http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18024 bevomav Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:40:03 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18024 ok..enough with the deadskins or beagles..the boys will get the cream..jj won't be out done.. ok..enough with the deadskins or beagles..the boys will get the cream..jj won’t be out done..

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]]> By: EAGLESFAN1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18022 EAGLESFAN1 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:32:33 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18022 RyanHarris, a Passionate Fan, says: April 21st, 2008 at 4:39 pm Lito and a 4th?? Philly fans are retards. You overvalue your own players and devalue other guys. Lito and a 4th? Ha, must be using that mad cow beef in all of those brain decaying cheese steaks. We in Philly are the most passionate and among the most educated fans in the country. How do we overvalue Lito Sheppard? The fact that he is a pro bowl player means he is tough to overvalue. Roy Williams is unhappy in his situation which may mean problems for the lions, detroit fans dont want to deal with a problematic wr..... (we have experience with that. cough cough TO). I may be slow but I know if you aren't happy with your job you tend not to try as hard or preform as well. Roy Williams would be a nice fit in an eagles jersey, he would free up Kevin Curtis who is pretty fast and can catch. if TO made stinkson look like a decent reciever Roy could make Kevin Curtis look like a pro bowler, but I would rather have ocho stinko, headache or not he is a better wr thank Roy. Also Please do not stereotype philly fans as retards..... RyanHarris, a Passionate Fan, says:

April 21st, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Lito and a 4th??

Philly fans are retards. You overvalue your own players and devalue other guys. Lito and a 4th? Ha, must be using that mad cow beef in all of those brain decaying cheese steaks.

We in Philly are the most passionate and among the most educated fans in the country. How do we overvalue Lito Sheppard? The fact that he is a pro bowl player means he is tough to overvalue. Roy Williams is unhappy in his situation which may mean problems for the lions, detroit fans dont want to deal with a problematic wr….. (we have experience with that. cough cough TO). I may be slow but I know if you aren’t happy with your job you tend not to try as hard or preform as well. Roy Williams would be a nice fit in an eagles jersey, he would free up Kevin Curtis who is pretty fast and can catch. if TO made stinkson look like a decent reciever Roy could make Kevin Curtis look like a pro bowler, but I would rather have ocho stinko, headache or not he is a better wr thank Roy. Also Please do not stereotype philly fans as retards…..

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]]> By: victorybirds http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18019 victorybirds Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:25:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18019 The Eagles would have to trade the 19th pick of course to get roy, and they wont do that. they may try to trade up, but they wont draft a reciever in the 1st round. Runyan and Thomas are both aging, so expect an OT. Expect the Eagles to go for an OT 1st round WR 2nd round DE 3rd Safety 4th. They definately need a tall WR in the endzone because of their lack of conversions in the redzone. I wish theyd get Hardy because hes so tall and just another plaxico, which is wat we need most, but they wont. its just not andys style The Eagles would have to trade the 19th pick of course to get roy, and they wont do that. they may try to trade up, but they wont draft a reciever in the 1st round. Runyan and Thomas are both aging, so expect an OT. Expect the Eagles to go for an OT 1st round WR 2nd round DE 3rd Safety 4th. They definately need a tall WR in the endzone because of their lack of conversions in the redzone. I wish theyd get Hardy because hes so tall and just another plaxico, which is wat we need most, but they wont. its just not andys style

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]]> By: verse234 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18011 verse234 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:54:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18011 first lol first lol

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]]> By: verse234 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18009 verse234 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:54:21 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18009 you guys are forgetting one thing Mat Millen is retarded and back to the forst round thing. enlighten me. when was the last time a team gave up a top 20 pick for a player? you guys are forgetting one thing

Mat Millen is retarded

and back to the forst round thing.

enlighten me. when was the last time a team gave up a top 20 pick for a player?

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]]> By: arosen36 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18008 arosen36 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:52:37 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18008 lets do it roy williams +b-west+ our new tenacious d= superbowl lets do it roy williams +b-west+ our new tenacious d= superbowl

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]]> By: OCEagle http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18005 OCEagle Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:47:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18005 Verse234 The Eagles didn't give up a 1st round pick for TO Nor was he a free agent RyanHarris Eagles traded a 5th round pick and Brandon Whiting for him Verse234

The Eagles didn’t give up a 1st round pick for TO

Nor was he a free agent RyanHarris

Eagles traded a 5th round pick and Brandon Whiting for him

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]]> By: Bensoon http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18003 Bensoon Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:38:41 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18003 If the Lions wouldn't take the Eagles #1 pick for Williams, then Millen should be fired. And if the Eagles offered the 19th pick for Williams, then Banner and Reid should also be fired. Every time I see Williams play, he drops more balls than he catches. Lito to the Lions doesn't make sense either given their offseason moves and division mentality. It's the NFC North people, there's not a team in the division that can throw the ball with Favre now retired. And the Tampa 2 doesn't require good corners, just good tacklers playing corner. I think the major move at receiver for the Eagles is going to be Ocho in a 3-way trade with the Jets involving Robertson. And if it takes Sheppard and a #1 pick to get Stinko, smart Eagles fans will mourn while the idiots celebrate. If the Lions wouldn’t take the Eagles #1 pick for Williams, then Millen should be fired. And if the Eagles offered the 19th pick for Williams, then Banner and Reid should also be fired. Every time I see Williams play, he drops more balls than he catches. Lito to the Lions doesn’t make sense either given their offseason moves and division mentality. It’s the NFC North people, there’s not a team in the division that can throw the ball with Favre now retired. And the Tampa 2 doesn’t require good corners, just good tacklers playing corner. I think the major move at receiver for the Eagles is going to be Ocho in a 3-way trade with the Jets involving Robertson. And if it takes Sheppard and a #1 pick to get Stinko, smart Eagles fans will mourn while the idiots celebrate.

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]]> By: willy3411 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18000 willy3411 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:36:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-18000 Roy Williams and Philly's 1 and 2 makes sense to me. Whoever suggests a 3rd or 4th is dreaming. Roy Williams and Philly’s 1 and 2 makes sense to me. Whoever suggests
a 3rd or 4th is dreaming.

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]]> By: drhanniballector http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17998 drhanniballector Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:30:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17998 folks he's not coming to philly, for a few reasons. apparently the lions don't believe they have a need at cb. plus, i think lito is penciled in as trade bait to jump up to grab the no.3 tackle, probably otah. i don't think big red wants to use lito get a wr because as we all know, the game revolves around the tackle position in his mind. he doesn't believe that when you're a passing offense that it's a good idea to sink your assets into the guys that actually catch the ball. i'm the minority with this, but i also believe the interest in fitzgerald and moss was baloney. those were two guys they knew weren't going anywhere so they made the phone calls to shut the qb up. also, if it's true dallas is interested, 2 1st round picks gives you a lot more creativity to deal. it wouldn't surprise me to see jones offer a 1st and 2nd for williams, and then take a corner or another wr with their other first they keep. or, ask the lions to give roy williams and their second round pick to dallas for both of dallas' first. something like that. lastly, this isn't exactly gcobb's report. he's saying he heard mike quick say something. big deal. i don't think color commentator mike quick is in the war room with andy and the scouts. i think this is a whole lotta nothing. folks he’s not coming to philly, for a few reasons.

apparently the lions don’t believe they have a need at cb. plus, i think lito is penciled in as trade bait to jump up to grab the no.3 tackle, probably otah. i don’t think big red wants to use lito get a wr because as we all know, the game revolves around the tackle position in his mind. he doesn’t believe that when you’re a passing offense that it’s a good idea to sink your assets into the guys that actually catch the ball.

i’m the minority with this, but i also believe the interest in fitzgerald and moss was baloney. those were two guys they knew weren’t going anywhere so they made the phone calls to shut the qb up.

also, if it’s true dallas is interested, 2 1st round picks gives you a lot more creativity to deal. it wouldn’t surprise me to see jones offer a 1st and 2nd for williams, and then take a corner or another wr with their other first they keep. or, ask the lions to give roy williams and their second round pick to dallas for both of dallas’ first. something like that.

lastly, this isn’t exactly gcobb’s report. he’s saying he heard mike quick say something. big deal. i don’t think color commentator mike quick is in the war room with andy and the scouts.

i think this is a whole lotta nothing.

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]]> By: brianlion http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17996 brianlion Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:24:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17996 Williams wont wind up in an Eagle uniform. Their biggest chip to trade is Lito Sheppard, and the Lions are pretty well stocked in the secondary after adding Bodden and Kelly in the offseason. Would the Lions do roy for the Eagles #1? Probably not. They'd likely want a player in return, and now that we know the Eagles rivals would be involved in the bidding, they'd likely get it to. More likely than not I could see the Eagles trading for Ocho Stinko. Cinnci has a need for secondary help, and I doubt whether the Eagles would have to cough up a #1 in addition to Sheppard. Williams wont wind up in an Eagle uniform. Their biggest chip to trade is Lito Sheppard, and the Lions are pretty well stocked in the secondary after adding Bodden and Kelly in the offseason. Would the Lions do roy for the Eagles #1? Probably not. They’d likely want a player in return, and now that we know the Eagles rivals would be involved in the bidding, they’d likely get it to.

More likely than not I could see the Eagles trading for Ocho Stinko. Cinnci has a need for secondary help, and I doubt whether the Eagles would have to cough up a #1 in addition to Sheppard.

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]]> By: TheVet700 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17994 TheVet700 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:15:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17994 Who's touting L J Smith? Hes a bum once again it calls into question Andy(Times Yours)Reid's drafting ability. What would you do take a TE from Rutgers (L J) or a TE from Tennessee (Jason Witten)? Also for a guy who is pass happy he hasn't drafted a #1 receiver for Donovan. The EAGLES receiving corps has been a train wreak since he got here. But look what happened when they got a true WR in TO they went to the Super Bowl oh my bad (The Big Game) even if they did sell their soles to the Devil to get there! Or they should have payed him and keep him happy(Oh did I say that out loud) . So at least it says something that they know they need a real #1 WR . And if they need me too I'll drive L J back too Rutgers and toss him in the Raritan. Who’s touting L J Smith? Hes a bum once again it calls into question Andy(Times Yours)Reid’s drafting ability. What would you do take a TE from Rutgers (L J) or a TE from Tennessee (Jason Witten)? Also for a guy who is pass happy he hasn’t drafted a #1 receiver for Donovan. The EAGLES receiving corps has been a train wreak since he got here. But look what happened when they got a true WR in TO they went to the Super Bowl oh my bad (The Big Game) even if they did sell their soles to the Devil to get there! Or they should have payed him and keep him happy(Oh did I say that out loud) . So at least it says something that they know they need a real #1 WR . And if they need me too I’ll drive L J back too Rutgers and toss him in the Raritan.

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17987 empty13 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:06:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17987 The Lions will move Roy. He wants out. He thinks Calvin will be given his job. That's his motivation to act like an idiot. If anything, McDonald cut into Roy's catches. Not Calvin. He was too busy chawing vicodin. Roy isnt fast, and if Philly or whoever thinks he will be a field stretcher for long, they arent paying attention. The Lions will move Roy. He wants out. He thinks Calvin will be given his job. That’s his motivation to act like an idiot. If anything, McDonald cut into Roy’s catches. Not Calvin. He was too busy chawing vicodin.

Roy isnt fast, and if Philly or whoever thinks he will be a field stretcher for long, they arent paying attention.

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]]> By: 5alive http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17983 5alive Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:00:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17983 TO was not a free agent when the Eagles traded for him. His agent didn't file the papers that voided the final year of his contract. TO was not a free agent when the Eagles traded for him. His agent didn’t file the papers that voided the final year of his contract.

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]]> By: RyanHarris http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17976 RyanHarris Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:51:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17976 Spelling and grammar aside; Javon Walker was coming off of ACL surgery. TO was a free agent. Randy Moss didnt do anything for 2 years and had a no trade clause which essentially handcuffed the Raiders. Also it was a trade with the Raiders, enough said. You forget to mention that the Raiders did give up a 1st and LB Napolean Harris to get Moss in the first place. Sure they used that pick to get Troy Williamson, but they did get a first for Randy. Spelling and grammar aside;

Javon Walker was coming off of ACL surgery.

TO was a free agent.

Randy Moss didnt do anything for 2 years and had a no trade clause which essentially handcuffed the Raiders. Also it was a trade with the Raiders, enough said. You forget to mention that the Raiders did give up a 1st and LB Napolean Harris to get Moss in the first place. Sure they used that pick to get Troy Williamson, but they did get a first for Randy.

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]]> By: Housh http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17974 Housh Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:50:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17974 "Why are all these Eagles fans touting LJ Smith like he’s the second coming of Christ? I guess those fumbles mean nothing." He has 3 career fumbles. Witten has 3. Cooley has 4. Shockey has 5. Do some research. “Why are all these Eagles fans touting LJ Smith like he’s the second coming of Christ? I guess those fumbles mean nothing.”

He has 3 career fumbles. Witten has 3. Cooley has 4. Shockey has 5. Do some research.

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]]> By: RJM http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17972 RJM Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:46:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17972 @Super Florio I completely agree that he is neither the second coming of Christ, or the TE of the future, but he has always been a good target for McNabb. If he is healthy, it is still an upgrade from last year. @Super Florio

I completely agree that he is neither the second coming of Christ, or the TE of the future, but he has always been a good target for McNabb. If he is healthy, it is still an upgrade from last year.

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]]> By: zEnder1241z http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17971 zEnder1241z Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:45:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17971 LJ Smith has like one regular season fumble in the last 4 years or something like that. LJ's "fumbling problem" is a myth. He had one game where he fumbled twice in the 04 playoffs and because of the way he carries the ball, he's been labelled fumble-prone ever since. And while LJ is definitely inconsistant, he's a legitimate threat at TE that you have to account for, and his blocking has improved tremendously. LJ Smith has like one regular season fumble in the last 4 years or something like that. LJ’s “fumbling problem” is a myth. He had one game where he fumbled twice in the 04 playoffs and because of the way he carries the ball, he’s been labelled fumble-prone ever since.

And while LJ is definitely inconsistant, he’s a legitimate threat at TE that you have to account for, and his blocking has improved tremendously.

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]]> By: OCEagle http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17970 OCEagle Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:44:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17970 because LJ makes a lot of really good catches also. The fumbles are memorable but there haven't been that many. Franchising him this year was the smart move. because LJ makes a lot of really good catches also. The fumbles are memorable but there haven’t been that many. Franchising him this year was the smart move.

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]]> By: Sock_Puppet http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17969 Sock_Puppet Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:44:37 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17969 The Eagles fans are delusional. There is no way Roy goes to Philly. Donna McNabb can't throw the ball beyond 10 yards without skipping it in the dirt. Philly fans might as well give up. There only chance at winning a superbowl was when McNabb couldn't take the pressure and yacked behind center. The Eagles fans are delusional.
There is no way Roy goes to Philly. Donna McNabb
can’t throw the ball beyond 10 yards without skipping
it in the dirt. Philly fans might as well give up.
There only chance at winning a superbowl was when McNabb
couldn’t take the pressure and yacked behind center.

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]]> By: verse234 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17964 verse234 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:40:33 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17964 i cant remember the last time a team gave up a first round pick for a wr oh thats right denver did it with javon walker no thats not right oh thats right i rember when the eagles gave up a 1 st round pick for TO no thats not right Oh that one time in training camp, when the Pats gave up a forst for randy moss. look at that im wrong again. it wont take a #1 pick to get a talented wr. i cant remember the last time a team gave up a first round pick for a wr

oh thats right denver did it with javon walker
no thats not right

oh thats right i rember when the eagles gave up a 1 st round pick for TO
no thats not right

Oh that one time in training camp, when the Pats gave up a forst for randy moss.
look at that im wrong again.
it wont take a #1 pick to get a talented wr.

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]]> By: RyanHarris http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17962 RyanHarris Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:39:03 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17962 Lito and a 4th?? Philly fans are retards. You overvalue your own players and devalue other guys. Lito and a 4th? Ha, must be using that mad cow beef in all of those brain decaying cheese steaks. Lito and a 4th??

Philly fans are retards. You overvalue your own players and devalue other guys. Lito and a 4th? Ha, must be using that mad cow beef in all of those brain decaying cheese steaks.

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]]> By: Super Florio http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17959 Super Florio Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:25:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17959 Why are all these Eagles fans touting LJ Smith like he's the second coming of Christ? I guess those fumbles mean nothing. Same with the drops in the end zone. Don't you guys realize, the future TE is not LJ Smith. If it was, why would they have signed another dozen TEs in the off season? Why are all these Eagles fans touting LJ Smith like he’s the second coming of Christ? I guess those fumbles mean nothing. Same with the drops in the end zone. Don’t you guys realize, the future TE is not LJ Smith. If it was, why would they have signed another dozen TEs in the off season?

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17955 Vox Veritas Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:17:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17955 That's all the Redskins need, eh? A possession receiver? Somebody call Meshawn! Seriously dude, no WR is going to make a 4 game swing for the Redskins, which happens to be exactly the number of games they finished out of first place last season. That’s all the Redskins need, eh? A possession receiver? Somebody call Meshawn! Seriously dude, no WR is going to make a 4 game swing for the Redskins, which happens to be exactly the number of games they finished out of first place last season.

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]]> By: JayPhilly http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17954 JayPhilly Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:16:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17954 "Hey Donovan, Teach Roy our offense so Kolb can have a receiver." Love, Big Red Jokes aside, please come to Philly Roy! He'd do well in our town, celebrating first downs and handing the ball back quietly after a TD...and he is one of the most quotable receivers (when quotable means funny/engaging rather than "I love me some me.") “Hey Donovan, Teach Roy our offense so Kolb can have a receiver.”
Love,
Big Red

Jokes aside, please come to Philly Roy! He’d do well in our town, celebrating first downs and handing the ball back quietly after a TD…and he is one of the most quotable receivers (when quotable means funny/engaging rather than “I love me some me.”)

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]]> By: jphalines http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17953 jphalines Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:16:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17953 As an Eagles fan I have wanted this to happen, but it actually does work for both teams with 2 possible deals. 1. The Eagles #19 pick for Roy Williams straight up. The Redskins and Cowboys pick later in the round. 2. Lito and a 4th for Roy Williams. There is a lot to this because Lito is signed until 2011. Both teams get hit will similar dead money, but the Lions will have 4 years of low base salaries to work out a deal for a Pro bowl cornerback. They are still stacked with Johnson, Furrey and McDonlad as the recievers in a run oriented new offense. The Eagles signed Curtis and Brown to deals in the past few years so Williams new deal is easy to live with. Westbrook has to have some more money thrown his way because he will still be the engine that runs the offense. Donovan now has a chance to prove he should be around past 2008. If Roy Williams ends up on the Cowboys or the Redskins there will be riots in the streets and Andy Reid's past success will be completely forgotten. The fans (including me) will echo the team isn't going for a Super Bowl, just trying to be competitive. It's time to go all in with Roy Williams and allow the Eagles to pick the best possible talent with the remainder of their picks this weekend. As an Eagles fan I have wanted this to happen, but it actually does work for both teams with 2 possible deals.
1. The Eagles #19 pick for Roy Williams straight up. The Redskins and Cowboys pick later in the round.
2. Lito and a 4th for Roy Williams. There is a lot to this because Lito is signed until 2011. Both teams get hit will similar dead money, but the Lions will have 4 years of low base salaries to work out a deal for a Pro bowl cornerback. They are still stacked with Johnson, Furrey and McDonlad as the recievers in a run oriented new offense. The Eagles signed Curtis and Brown to deals in the past few years so Williams new deal is easy to live with. Westbrook has to have some more money thrown his way because he will still be the engine that runs the offense. Donovan now has a chance to prove he should be around past 2008.

If Roy Williams ends up on the Cowboys or the Redskins there will be riots in the streets and Andy Reid’s past success will be completely forgotten. The fans (including me) will echo the team isn’t going for a Super Bowl, just trying to be competitive. It’s time to go all in with Roy Williams and allow the Eagles to pick the best possible talent with the remainder of their picks this weekend.

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]]> By: Deacon Blues http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17950 Deacon Blues Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:11:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17950 As a Lions fan, I can only hope this happens.... Get a 3rd rounder and a scrub ex-Buc for Roy and move on....... sooner or later Millen has to pull the trigger on the deal that gets him fired, doesn't he ?? As a Lions fan, I can only hope this happens…. Get a 3rd rounder and a scrub ex-Buc for Roy and move on…….

sooner or later Millen has to pull the trigger on the deal that gets him fired, doesn’t he ??

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]]> By: RyanHarris http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17948 RyanHarris Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:07:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17948 Why would the Lions take a 3rd in this trade? Makes no sense, further why would the Eagles not trade their 1st to get him? Why would the Lions take a 3rd in this trade? Makes no sense, further why would the Eagles not trade their 1st to get him?

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]]> By: brian_21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17946 brian_21 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:06:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17946 That would be MAJOR, if the Philadelphia Eagles can land Roy Williams! I'm sure the North Carolina coach is fast, too. Naw but I think the Detroit Lions' receiver like long jumped 25 feet or something. I was happy when I long jumped over 18 feet for high school track and field, which usually got the team points. But anyway, if Donavon McNabb had that weapon, then watch out for those Eagles. That would be MAJOR, if the Philadelphia Eagles can land Roy Williams!

I’m sure the North Carolina coach is fast, too.

Naw but I think the Detroit Lions’ receiver like long jumped 25 feet or something. I was happy when I long jumped over 18 feet for high school track and field, which usually got the team points. But anyway, if Donavon McNabb had that weapon, then watch out for those Eagles.

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]]> By: KY http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17944 KY Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:04:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17944 Love how the Eagles fans think they can get Roy Williams for anything less than the 19th pick by throwing in Lito Sheppard. You don't need elite CBs in the Lions (Tampa 2) defense. The Lions also recently acquired Brian Kelly and Leigh Bodden. So again, if the Eagles want Roy Wiliams, the discussion starts and ends with #19. Love how the Eagles fans think they can get Roy Williams for anything less than the 19th pick by throwing in Lito Sheppard.

You don’t need elite CBs in the Lions (Tampa 2) defense. The Lions also recently acquired Brian Kelly and Leigh Bodden.

So again, if the Eagles want Roy Wiliams, the discussion starts and ends with #19.

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]]> By: dyhardSkinsFan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17942 dyhardSkinsFan Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:01:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17942 Frankly I think that the 'skins would be fine with any of the wide receivers predicted to fall to the second round. R.Williams isn't an elite WR either, he's more like a very solid posession receiver. NFC better pray we don't get our missing piece- a posession receiver. We would rule the division until we face the seahawks again and choke in the first round of the playoffs. F dallas Frankly I think that the ’skins would be fine with any of the wide receivers predicted to fall to the second round. R.Williams isn’t an elite WR either, he’s more like a very solid posession receiver.

NFC better pray we don’t get our missing piece- a posession receiver. We would rule the division until we face the seahawks again and choke in the first round of the playoffs.

F dallas

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]]> By: abefred http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17940 abefred Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:59:31 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17940 Give up Lito Sheppard and this years 3rd Round Pick. With 11 picks in the draft they have the picks plus a Star Corner to get it done. Williams stretching the field, Curtis eating up the slot, L.J. smith coming off the Line, Westbrook carrying and also coming off the backfield. Whoooa Nelly. I'm getting goose Bumps GO EAGLES!!!! Give up Lito Sheppard and this years 3rd Round Pick. With 11 picks in the draft they have the picks plus a Star Corner to get it done. Williams stretching the field, Curtis eating up the slot, L.J. smith coming off the Line, Westbrook carrying and also coming off the backfield. Whoooa Nelly. I’m getting goose Bumps GO EAGLES!!!!

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]]> By: phillyslick http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17936 phillyslick Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:54:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17936 Yeah the Eagles clearly have more to offer than the skins or cowboys - after red bragged so much about how hard the team tried to get moss, i've gotta believe the organization won't get outbid. Yeah the Eagles clearly have more to offer than the skins or cowboys - after red bragged so much about how hard the team tried to get moss, i’ve gotta believe the organization won’t get outbid.

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]]> By: RyanHarris http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17935 RyanHarris Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:49:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17935 The Eagles NEED to make this happen. Realistically they have 2 seasons left with this core group of players before major changes need to happen. They have a talented roster and are an impact WR away from the Super Bowl. If the Lions got Lito Sheppard and phillys #1 (19) they could be a much better team. Lito and Leigh Bodden would give Detroit two young talented corners. They could then either package their picks and move up for a Dorsey, or sit tight and grab a DT and RB at their picks. This could be a trade where both teams win, although I know Philly would be worried about Williams wanting a new contract soon. They could be planning on making a run the next 2 years, with Williams playing out his contract this year and franchising him the next year. The Eagles NEED to make this happen. Realistically they have 2 seasons left with this core group of players before major changes need to happen. They have a talented roster and are an impact WR away from the Super Bowl.

If the Lions got Lito Sheppard and phillys #1 (19) they could be a much better team. Lito and Leigh Bodden would give Detroit two young talented corners. They could then either package their picks and move up for a Dorsey, or sit tight and grab a DT and RB at their picks.

This could be a trade where both teams win, although I know Philly would be worried about Williams wanting a new contract soon. They could be planning on making a run the next 2 years, with Williams playing out his contract this year and franchising him the next year.

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]]> By: djzato http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17934 djzato Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:46:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17934 Man they can get R. Williams without giving up pick #19...They have 11 total picks and an elite corner on the trade block...That's enough. Man they can get R. Williams without giving up pick #19…They have 11 total picks and an elite corner on the trade block…That’s enough.

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]]> By: VinnyCerratoDraftGenius http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17929 VinnyCerratoDraftGenius Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:37:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17929 Dear Jim Zorn, There's no way we'll be able to get Roy Williams. I'll be outmaneuvered and we will lose him to the Cowboys or Eagles. 1) We'll sign Keyshawn off the street. 2) If we can't get Keyshawn, we'll trade up from #21 to draft Malcolm Kelly. 3) If someone else reaches on Kelly, we can get Chris Henry. 4) If all of that fails, you'll just be expected to win with Anthony Mix. Sincerely, VinnyCerratoDraftGenius Dear Jim Zorn,

There’s no way we’ll be able to get Roy Williams. I’ll be outmaneuvered and we will lose him to the Cowboys or Eagles.

1) We’ll sign Keyshawn off the street.
2) If we can’t get Keyshawn, we’ll trade up from #21 to draft Malcolm Kelly.
3) If someone else reaches on Kelly, we can get Chris Henry.
4) If all of that fails, you’ll just be expected to win with Anthony Mix.

Sincerely,

VinnyCerratoDraftGenius

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]]> By: OCEagle http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17928 OCEagle Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:37:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17928 They don't have to give up their first pick, I can guarantee you Lito is in the trade talks and we know Detroit needs help in the secondary They don’t have to give up their first pick, I can guarantee you Lito is in the trade talks and we know Detroit needs help in the secondary

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]]> By: eagles187 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17926 eagles187 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:32:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17926 Their 1st round pick isn't the only option. Could be Lito Sheppard and a later pick. They have plenty of picks to work with and something the other teams are tighter on, cap space. Their 1st round pick isn’t the only option. Could be Lito Sheppard and a later pick. They have plenty of picks to work with and something the other teams are tighter on, cap space.

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]]> By: Nuf http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17925 Nuf Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:32:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17925 The Lions would be in pretty good shape if they could get something worthwhile worked out that included either the Eagles' #19 or the 'Skins' #21 (plus probably a player or another fairly high draft pick this year or next year). Roy is expendable and overrated (as a huge Lions fan, I am on the edge of my seat every time the ball is thrown to Roy; every catch attempt has the potential of being turned into a touchdown, either for Roy with a spectacular run and catch, or for the other team after Roy bats the ball around with his fingertips a half a dozen times and loses it). At #15 and either #19 or 21, the Lions could fill two HUGE holes at RB (Stewart/Mendenhall) and MLB (Mayo) and not really be worse for wear at WR (barring injuries to CJ or Furrey). It'd be a win-win for each team involved; hopefully the Eagles, Skins, or Cowboys can come up with a good enough offer. #19 and Lito Sheppard, who would play nickel in the revamped Lions secondary, would not be enough. The Lions would be in pretty good shape if they could get something worthwhile worked out that included either the Eagles’ #19 or the ‘Skins’ #21 (plus probably a player or another fairly high draft pick this year or next year). Roy is expendable and overrated (as a huge Lions fan, I am on the edge of my seat every time the ball is thrown to Roy; every catch attempt has the potential of being turned into a touchdown, either for Roy with a spectacular run and catch, or for the other team after Roy bats the ball around with his fingertips a half a dozen times and loses it).

At #15 and either #19 or 21, the Lions could fill two HUGE holes at RB (Stewart/Mendenhall) and MLB (Mayo) and not really be worse for wear at WR (barring injuries to CJ or Furrey). It’d be a win-win for each team involved; hopefully the Eagles, Skins, or Cowboys can come up with a good enough offer. #19 and Lito Sheppard, who would play nickel in the revamped Lions secondary, would not be enough.

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]]> By: mikvogel http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17924 mikvogel Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:31:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17924 Anybody considering a Lito Sheppard for Ocho Stinko trade possibility? Anybody considering a Lito Sheppard for Ocho Stinko trade possibility?

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]]> By: Enrgy2Burn http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17921 Enrgy2Burn Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:26:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17921 this makes NO sense to me and i am an eagles fan and also a fan of roy williams. it would be foolish of detroit (and perhaps because it is detroit this will get done) to move him. he is a stud wr who can only help calvin johnson develop. detroit has no #2 wr on their roster and getting rid of williams could possibly set back cj. i would welcome the move if he came to philly but would be shocked because it just doesn't seem to make sense. they will get something for him next year when they tag him and then trade him. detroit, i believe, has plenty of cap space and will only get more next year when the cap goes up and they cut kitna. the only way this makes sense is if detroit loves lito sheppard and he is the true cornerstone of the deal. this makes NO sense to me and i am an eagles fan and also a fan of roy williams. it would be foolish of detroit (and perhaps because it is detroit this will get done) to move him. he is a stud wr who can only help calvin johnson develop. detroit has no #2 wr on their roster and getting rid of williams could possibly set back cj. i would welcome the move if he came to philly but would be shocked because it just doesn’t seem to make sense. they will get something for him next year when they tag him and then trade him. detroit, i believe, has plenty of cap space and will only get more next year when the cap goes up and they cut kitna. the only way this makes sense is if detroit loves lito sheppard and he is the true cornerstone of the deal.

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]]> By: KY http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17918 KY Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:21:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/21/eagles-to-make-a-major-move-at-receiver/#comment-17918 Unless Philly plans on giving up #19, it ain't happening... I'd do it, but I don't think the Eagles will. Unless Philly plans on giving up #19, it ain’t happening…

I’d do it, but I don’t think the Eagles will.

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