We received a text message and a phone call late Saturday/early Sunday from a league source who shared with us a curious development regarding the Minnesota Vikings’ ongoing efforts to acquire Kansas City Chiefs defensive end Jared Allen.
Per the source, the Vikings are “likely” to sign Allen to an offer sheet after next weekend’s draft, if a “fair” trade can’t be worked out before then.
The move meshes with the idea that came us to like an acorn to a blind squirrel on Saturday. With the Chiefs reportedly wanting a first-round pick and a second-round pick for Allen, why not simply nab Allen with a poison-pilled offer sheet and foist on the Chiefs the Vikings’ first-round picks in 2009 and 2010?
The fact that the Vikes apparently plan to pursue this tactic is a strong indication that Allen’s visit to the Twin Cities has resulted in an agreement between the player and the Purple regarding the money that will be paid to the NFL’s sack leader in 2008.
But there’s a wild card in this scenario. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are reportedly interested in Allen, and could be squeezed into besting the Vikings’ pre-draft trade offer if the Bucs know that Allen would otherwise be poised to sign a post-draft offer sheet in Minnesota.
Then again, if Allen has made up his mind that he wants to play in the land of 10,000 lakes (but hopefully not 0.10 percent BAC), the Bucs will be out of the picture, and the question will be whether the Vikings get him before the draft, or after it.
A couple of readers have asked us whether the Vikings could sign Allen to an offer sheet right now, since it’s less than seven days before the first day of the draft. But even though a team with a franchise player has up to seven days to decide whether to match an offer sheet that he signs, the team can also decide before the seven days expire to not match it. In this case, doing so would give the Chiefs the Vikings’ first-round picks in 2008 and 2009.
And since the Chiefs would surely prefer to get extra draft picks for Allen right now (especially since G.M. Carl Peterson might not be around to use picks in 2009 and/or 2010), it’ll be critical for the Vikings to dust off the poison pill, if they want to be sure to acquire Allen. Otherwise, the Vikes will have merely negotiated on the Chiefs’ behalf Allen’s long-term contract to stay in Kansas City.
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April 20th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
There is one compromise where both teams can get what they want.
One thing the Vikings need to do in this draft is get a QB in the later rounds to develop. Ideally it will be someone in the 5th or 6th round who will be the 3rd string or practice squad this year, and in a couple of years become the primary backup (someone who can step in and win games). Then if Jackson doesn’t pan out, he could probably take over as the starter (think of Sage Rosenfels role with the Titans or Sean Hill with the 49ers).
They thought they had that player last year when they drafted Tyler Thigpen. Even though he keeps things close to the vest and undertstates things, Brad Childress really liked him as this developmental QB and was disappointed when the Vikings lost him.
The reason the Vikings lost Thigpen was he was waived so he could clear waivers and be placed on the practice squad, but he was swooped up by . . . . the Kansas City Chiefs (much like the Browns did when the Ravens tried to placed Derek Anderson on the practice squad a few years ago).
So why not have the Chiefs add Thigpen to the Allen deal for the Vikings #1 and #2. The Vikings then could use the extra #3 they were planning to give to the Chiefs and the #5 or #6 they were planning to use on a developmental QB and package them to someone for a second round pick. That way both teams end of the the 2nd round pick they covet.
The advantages would be:
1. Carl Peterson can feel like he won the negotiating by only having to give back someone they stole from the Vikings last year to get what he wants.
2. With four picks in the 1st 2 rounds the Chiefs can draft a franchise QB, move B. Coyle to the developmental (eventual 2nd string) QB role, and use D. Hoard as the starter until the rookie they draft is able to take over. They would have to cut Thigpen in the situation anyway, so they wouldn’t be giving up anything they planned on keeping.
3. The Vikings would get a QB they liked and who has experience with their offense in mini camp and preseason, and now is a year more mature and has had a year to get acclimated to the NFL.
4. The Vikings would get their dominant pass rushing DE, and developmental QB and still have picks in rounds 2, 3, and 4 plus others to fill their remaining holes, such as O line.
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April 20th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Ca_Viking, just to make sure you get your facts straight. Tom Brady was a 6th rounder and Tony Romo was undrafted not a 4th rounder. Yes, using a 1st rounder on a QB can be a crapshoot, but look at how many current starting QBs were drafted in the 1st round: (2007) JaMarcus Russel [1st]; (2006) Vince Young [3rd], Matt Leinart [10th], Jay Cutler [11th]; (2005) Aaron Rodgers [24th], Jason Campbell [25th]; (2004) Eli Manning [1st], Philip Rivers [4th], Ben Roethlisberger [11th]; (2003) Carson Palmer [1st], ? (Kyle Boller [19th]), ? (Rex Grossman [22nd]); 2000 ? (Chad Pennington [18th]); 1999 Donovan McNabb [2nd]; 1998 Peyton Manning [1st].
That is 12 guaranteed starters of 32 teams drafted in the 1st round with 3 others in competition for the starting spot. Yes there have been busts like Couch, Carr, Akili Smith, etc. And look the last 3 Super Bowl champs have all been led by a 1st round QB (granted none of them was picked lower than 11th). I agree that the Vikings shouldn’t use a 1st rounder on a QB, especially this year but it isn’t like taking a QB in the first round means it is a total crapshoot.
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April 20th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Whats a Purple Jesus?
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April 20th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Hey Henry Plainveiw, that was deep…
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April 20th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
More than I ever wanted to know about the Vikings…
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April 20th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
OK i know i am going to get ripped for this but hear me out Erasmus James I dont think is a total bust yet and with udeze out this year James could work his ass off to get that starting spot . but ACL injuries are a bitch. Jared Allen would help him a lot with his growth as a player having an established pass rusher on the other side, and you want to talk about bad picks…… with the 29th pick in the 1999 draft the minnesota vikings select DIMITRIUS UNDERWOOD DE Michigan State…..1996 draft 16th pick Duane Clemens DE Cal………1995 11th goddamn pick Derrick Alexander………. GET JARED ALLEN DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!
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April 21st, 2008 at 6:48 am
On the field, Allen is a beast, but off it, he’s a risk. 2 DUIs in 1 year is a red flag. His mullet is a bigger red flag. Whoever signs this guy should have no problem justifying the move to the fans, but there had better be some crafty wording in that contract to insulate the team in case he gets strike three.
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April 21st, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Allen would be an elite prospect as long as he can keep his nose clean. His addition would make the Vikings defense elite. However, two 1st round picks is not acceptable unless the team drafts a QB (Brohm or Ryan) in round 1 this year. Why? Because I think it’s clear that Tarvaris Jackson is not going to be good enough to be anything more than a backup QB in this league. That said, we have to get a QB of the future now, before losing 2 1st round picks to KC and eliminating our ability to get such a player in the future. Once that is done, this team would be catapulted into an elite status from a defensive perspective… and in 2009 when our new franchise QB took over the starting QB role from the happless Tarvaris Jackson, the Vikings would become and elite offense, combined with an elite defense, and that would equate to a team with Super Bowl aspirations.
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