Comments on: NEW L.A. STADIUM TO BE PROPOSED THURSDAY http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:17:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: kombayn http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-17535 kombayn Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:53:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-17535 Alright, I have to say people on here are very ignorant about Los Angeles and haven't even read the article on Yahoo! The site would be City of Industry (a small City basically that only has commercial business' in the City. No one actually lives there.) and Edward Roski has stated that it would be paid in full by him. Just like the Staples Center, all he wants is a small part in ownership of the team. Trust me, the NFL is looking into this while they say they're not interested. They spent a shit-load of money before trying to get an L.A. team and we the new Coliseum lease, it's a whole new ball-game. No tax-payer money spent (which was the huge reason why L.A. didn't get a new team). Now teams can use this as bargaining power in stadium negotiations. I expect Minnesota, San Francisco and San Diego to get their deals done. The Jaguars I'm iffy on especially from an earlier poster plus they're an extremely good team, plus they can get Super Bowl's easy for the beautiful weather. The only team I see moving back to Los Angeles is the Raiders, the fan-base is huge for the Raiders and the lease in Oakland ends in 2011. Al Davis would be itching to get his team back into the L.A. market and he wouldn't have to drop much coin to get into a nice brand-new stadium Oakland doesn't have the money to support a new stadium, they've only been talking about renovating the current stadium they have. So in the end, I expect the Oakland Raiders to move back to Los Angeles in 2011. The NFL wouldn't have to screw with relocation of divisions or anything crazy like that. The dark-horse candidate would have to be the Minnesota Vikings, but I highly doubt that they'll end up leaving a terrific football city and the great rivalries established in the NFC North, especially for Los Angeles (Minnesota would hate us after that). But trust me... Roski's stadium deal is a wet-dream for an owner, it'll happen. Los Angeles will have an NFL team again in 4 years or less. Now it's time for cities with possible relocation threats to get their acts together. Alright, I have to say people on here are very ignorant about Los Angeles and haven’t even read the article on Yahoo! The site would be City of Industry (a small City basically that only has commercial business’ in the City. No one actually lives there.) and Edward Roski has stated that it would be paid in full by him. Just like the Staples Center, all he wants is a small part in ownership of the team. Trust me, the NFL is looking into this while they say they’re not interested. They spent a shit-load of money before trying to get an L.A. team and we the new Coliseum lease, it’s a whole new ball-game.

No tax-payer money spent (which was the huge reason why L.A. didn’t get a new team). Now teams can use this as bargaining power in stadium negotiations. I expect Minnesota, San Francisco and San Diego to get their deals done. The Jaguars I’m iffy on especially from an earlier poster plus they’re an extremely good team, plus they can get Super Bowl’s easy for the beautiful weather. The only team I see moving back to Los Angeles is the Raiders, the fan-base is huge for the Raiders and the lease in Oakland ends in 2011. Al Davis would be itching to get his team back into the L.A. market and he wouldn’t have to drop much coin to get into a nice brand-new stadium

Oakland doesn’t have the money to support a new stadium, they’ve only been talking about renovating the current stadium they have. So in the end, I expect the Oakland Raiders to move back to Los Angeles in 2011. The NFL wouldn’t have to screw with relocation of divisions or anything crazy like that. The dark-horse candidate would have to be the Minnesota Vikings, but I highly doubt that they’ll end up leaving a terrific football city and the great rivalries established in the NFC North, especially for Los Angeles (Minnesota would hate us after that).

But trust me… Roski’s stadium deal is a wet-dream for an owner, it’ll happen. Los Angeles will have an NFL team again in 4 years or less. Now it’s time for cities with possible relocation threats to get their acts together.

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]]> By: mvlonergan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16845 mvlonergan Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:30:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16845 To msnyder275, I wonder if this company even obtained permission for use of those logos. The NFL says they're not involved in the press conference, yet there is the NFL logo and the name "Super Bowl" -- both of which are trademarked and can't be used without permission for promotional material like this. I do publications work for an A/E firm. I guarantee some egotistical architect said "Throw in Coke, throw in Bank of America," and some underpaid graphic designer pirated logos off websites and threw them in the video. To msnyder275, I wonder if this company even obtained permission for use of those logos. The NFL says they’re not involved in the press conference, yet there is the NFL logo and the name “Super Bowl” — both of which are trademarked and can’t be used without permission for promotional material like this. I do publications work for an A/E firm. I guarantee some egotistical architect said “Throw in Coke, throw in Bank of America,” and some underpaid graphic designer pirated logos off websites and threw them in the video.

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]]> By: RonO http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16742 RonO Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:37:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16742 Add 49ers to the list and just think about the cheerleaders (Hollywood wannabies) :-) Add 49ers to the list and just think about the cheerleaders (Hollywood wannabies) :-)

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]]> By: joe.attaboy http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16731 joe.attaboy Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:20:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16731 The Jaguars are not going to leave Jacksonville. Ever. An earlier commenter made the completely ignorant statement that we suffer from no ticket sales and blackouts. Like many other NFL cities, Jacksonville does experience the occasional blackout (we had one in 2007), but the city also has a lot of last-minute and walk-up ticket sales, which means the building is nearly always full on Sunday. Take a look at the home crowds for prime time games...tickets are nearly impossible to get for Monday and Sunday night events. In fact, we do pretty well considering Jacksonville is the second or third-smallest NFL market. The stadium was also too big for the market when it was rebuilt. They can pull 80,000 in for the Florida-Georgia game each year, because it's a one-day event that's been held here for about a hundred years. Things improved dramatically for the Jaguars when Wayne Weaver cover about 10,000 seats a few years ago. 62,000 was far more realistic for this market than 72,000. Another thing to consider is recent team records and last year's playoff run. The Jags were 12-4 in 2005 against weak opponents, and 8-8 in 2006. Yet, ticket sales were better in 2006. Jack Del Rio's decision to make David Garrard the starting quarterback made a big difference last season, and season ticket sales are running well ahead of projections this year, due in a large part to the appearance in two playoff games. We want one at home this year. Fortunately, Wayne Weaver is an owner committed to the team and the city. The city's small market makes turning a profit difficult, especially combined with the big salary caps and the current revenue-sharing issues that favor the players. Does that mean the team would never, ever move? One can't say "never" about anything, but the financial situation would have to totally collapse here for Weaver to sell (since I doubt he'd move the team himself). The loss of this team would be devastating on Jacksonville. There's a lot more support for this team than those outside the city are aware; most people commenting about how poorly the Jaguars are supported or how soon the team will move are simply ignorant of what's going on down here. We're not in the national spotlight, we don't have a 20-year waiting list of people who want season tickets, we don't attract superstar players, the city doesn't have the cultural excitement of a New York, a Boston or even a Miami. But we have a damn good football team, great coaching and a owner who gives a crap about his fans. The key thing, of course, is winning. Many teams play to empty seats when they suck. If you don't suck, if you at least make a run at the playoffs, people will come. The Jaguars are not leaving Jacksonville. Especially for L.A. Get over it. The Jaguars are not going to leave Jacksonville. Ever.

An earlier commenter made the completely ignorant statement that we suffer from no ticket sales and blackouts. Like many other NFL cities, Jacksonville does experience the occasional blackout (we had one in 2007), but the city also has a lot of last-minute and walk-up ticket sales, which means the building is nearly always full on Sunday. Take a look at the home crowds for prime time games…tickets are nearly impossible to get for Monday and Sunday night events.

In fact, we do pretty well considering Jacksonville is the second or third-smallest NFL market. The stadium was also too big for the market when it was rebuilt. They can pull 80,000 in for the Florida-Georgia game each year, because it’s a one-day event that’s been held here for about a hundred years. Things improved dramatically for the Jaguars when Wayne Weaver cover about 10,000 seats a few years ago. 62,000 was far more realistic for this market than 72,000.

Another thing to consider is recent team records and last year’s playoff run. The Jags were 12-4 in 2005 against weak opponents, and 8-8 in 2006. Yet, ticket sales were better in 2006. Jack Del Rio’s decision to make David Garrard the starting quarterback made a big difference last season, and season ticket sales are running well ahead of projections this year, due in a large part to the appearance in two playoff games. We want one at home this year.

Fortunately, Wayne Weaver is an owner committed to the team and the city. The city’s small market makes turning a profit difficult, especially combined with the big salary caps and the current revenue-sharing issues that favor the players.

Does that mean the team would never, ever move? One can’t say “never” about anything, but the financial situation would have to totally collapse here for Weaver to sell (since I doubt he’d move the team himself).

The loss of this team would be devastating on Jacksonville. There’s a lot more support for this team than those outside the city are aware; most people commenting about how poorly the Jaguars are supported or how soon the team will move are simply ignorant of what’s going on down here. We’re not in the national spotlight, we don’t have a 20-year waiting list of people who want season tickets, we don’t attract superstar players, the city doesn’t have the cultural excitement of a New York, a Boston or even a Miami. But we have a damn good football team, great coaching and a owner who gives a crap about his fans.

The key thing, of course, is winning. Many teams play to empty seats when they suck. If you don’t suck, if you at least make a run at the playoffs, people will come.

The Jaguars are not leaving Jacksonville. Especially for L.A.

Get over it.

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]]> By: William Wallace http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16653 William Wallace Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:09:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16653 Football fans in Los Angeles aren't going to care. They might check it out the first year to see what's all about, but it really is all about the Raiders, Rams, USC, UCLA, and the Chargers, in that order. Considering that a large percentage of the Raiders' season ticket holders live in the L.A. area and they fly or drive up there every home game, I just don't see another team gaining traction. After the Rams and the Raiders left, Los Angeles became a college town, because it's pretty obvious those schools are here for the long haul. The worst part is a new L.A. team will likely piss off all the Raiders and Chargers fans here, because CBS will show the new team's games every Sunday whenever the games are scheduled for the same time. It's a horrible, horrible idea. And the City of Industry sucks. What, walk out of the game and tour dilapidated manufacturing centers? Get knifed in the parking lot of the one Denny's in the area? No thanks. Football fans in Los Angeles aren’t going to care.
They might check it out the first year to see what’s all about, but it really is all about the Raiders, Rams, USC, UCLA, and the Chargers, in that order.
Considering that a large percentage of the Raiders’ season ticket holders live in the L.A. area and they fly or drive up there every home game, I just don’t see another team gaining traction.
After the Rams and the Raiders left, Los Angeles became a college town, because it’s pretty obvious those schools are here for the long haul.
The worst part is a new L.A. team will likely piss off all the Raiders and Chargers fans here, because CBS will show the new team’s games every Sunday whenever the games are scheduled for the same time.
It’s a horrible, horrible idea.
And the City of Industry sucks.
What, walk out of the game and tour dilapidated manufacturing centers?
Get knifed in the parking lot of the one Denny’s in the area?
No thanks.

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]]> By: snb8818 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16652 snb8818 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:08:41 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16652 as someone from southern california i can say that games would be sold out for at least 5 years simply based on the stadium itself. the population is enormous and everyone would get out to at least one game to check it out. that said, the team would need to be successful or have a superstar to be PACKED every game after that. the lakers are a prime example. they have the most expensive ticket by a huge margin in the NBA and still sell out every game....but if the team isnt good, those seats arent filled come game time. Ditto the clippers. Strangely enough though, both the angels and dodgers are top 5 attended teams every year...so if a team could be marketed to orange county as well as it is LA, this stadium and team could develop a healthy fanbase. lets not forget part of the reason the rams and raiders failed was because the stadiums were god awful as someone from southern california i can say that games would be sold out for at least 5 years simply based on the stadium itself. the population is enormous and everyone would get out to at least one game to check it out.

that said, the team would need to be successful or have a superstar to be PACKED every game after that. the lakers are a prime example. they have the most expensive ticket by a huge margin in the NBA and still sell out every game….but if the team isnt good, those seats arent filled come game time. Ditto the clippers.

Strangely enough though, both the angels and dodgers are top 5 attended teams every year…so if a team could be marketed to orange county as well as it is LA, this stadium and team could develop a healthy fanbase. lets not forget part of the reason the rams and raiders failed was because the stadiums were god awful

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]]> By: Skew http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16645 Skew Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:02:19 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16645 I think the Packers will move there in a couple of years. I think the Packers will move there in a couple of years.

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]]> By: Jack in the Jack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16644 Jack in the Jack Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:00:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16644 The Jags aren't going anywhere. Jacksonville is growing faster than any city in the league. Wayne Weaver knows what he's doing. He got a diamond in the rough in Jacksonville. Anybody who is successful knows that timing is everything. Jacksonville is becoming a diamond. Plus, the Weavers have more control of the city than the mayor. Why would he want to deal with the headaches of Los Angeles? I mean, the state of California is one of the biggest reasons this country is going into recession. It's a freakin' circus. You have got the Weavers's all wrong. Florio called them cheap owners?! Quite the contrary. This team went through salary cap hell after the '99 season because of overspending. The Jags aren’t going anywhere. Jacksonville is growing faster than any city in the league. Wayne Weaver knows what he’s doing. He got a diamond in the rough in Jacksonville. Anybody who is successful knows that timing is everything. Jacksonville is becoming a diamond. Plus, the Weavers have more control of the city than the mayor. Why would he want to deal with the headaches of Los Angeles? I mean, the state of California is one of the biggest reasons this country is going into recession. It’s a freakin’ circus. You have got the Weavers’s all wrong. Florio called them cheap owners?! Quite the contrary. This team went through salary cap hell after the ‘99 season because of overspending.

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]]> By: msnyder275 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16619 msnyder275 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:21:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16619 There appears to be a fair amount of corporate sponsorship behind this. If you watch closely, Bank of America, Sony, Loews Theatres and Cabelas are branded in the flyover. There appears to be a fair amount of corporate sponsorship behind this. If you watch closely, Bank of America, Sony, Loews Theatres and Cabelas are branded in the flyover.

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]]> By: ShruggingGalt http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16589 ShruggingGalt Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:49:19 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16589 Kotite, you're right. Besides, it's off the 57. Who in their right mind will want to travel *hours* from either downtown LA or the OC to go see a football game only to travel *hours* to get back (when you can sit back and watch the game on TV). The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Anaheim Stadium is also off the 57 so if they have a home game on Sunday with an LA home game, you might as well leave before dawn to get to the stadium on time. Yeah most of the OC is within 25 miles...the way a bird would fly. It is me or doesn't their location page actually look like an earthquake damage assessment chart, showing the stadium as an epicenter? But it is only a few miles north of the Whittier fault. Kotite, you’re right.

Besides, it’s off the 57. Who in their right mind will want to travel *hours* from either downtown LA or the OC to go see a football game only to travel *hours* to get back (when you can sit back and watch the game on TV). The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Anaheim Stadium is also off the 57 so if they have a home game on Sunday with an LA home game, you might as well leave before dawn to get to the stadium on time. Yeah most of the OC is within 25 miles…the way a bird would fly.

It is me or doesn’t their location page actually look like an earthquake damage assessment chart, showing the stadium as an epicenter? But it is only a few miles north of the Whittier fault.

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]]> By: bavaro89 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16581 bavaro89 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:40:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16581 I doubt the NFL will consider expanding the current amount of teams since the 4 team division system is perfect for fair, rotating scheduling (something that the MLB and NHL continue to struggle with). That said, expansion brings a huge windfall on the laps of the NFL owners and it might be too tempting to pass up the tens of millions each would enjoy if one or two more teams enter the National Football League. Personally, I would rather see a re-location, if the powers that be decide The City of Fake Tits and Personalities needs deserves another team. Minneapolis is a great sports town (and a beautiful city to boot) and the Vikings have intense rivalries with the Packers and Bears, so cross them off the list. In addition, I doubt the NFL could be bereft (thanks, Tiki) of conscience to help Tom Benson move the Saints out of Louisiana. (For those who respond "but the NFL asked the Saints to lose a home game to play in London this season" consider that Tom Benson is making equal, if not more money than he would had the game been played at the SuperDome. ) Further, if the Bills did ever leave Niagara Falls, the logical move would be Toronto, where the team is trying to develop a fan base. Therefore, the Jaguars are the most logical candidates. Despite being one of the most constistent teams in the NFL since their inception, the team does not sell out and the local games are blacked out. Sure, that might happen in sunny L.A., but the Jags owner and the NFL would make more mullah in the City of Demons. Now, suppose the Jags did move to LA. What happens to the geographically designed (for the most part, anyway) divisions? I suggest moving the Saint Louis Rams to the AFC South and moving the new LA Jags to the NFC West. I could be wrong, but I doubt that Rams-Niners has been much of a rivalry since the days of Chris Everett and Flipper Anderson. Giants fans (like myself), please proceed to swallow a Chinese-made toy at the mention of those names. I doubt the NFL will consider expanding the current amount of teams since the 4 team division system is perfect for fair, rotating scheduling (something that the MLB and NHL continue to struggle with). That said, expansion brings a huge windfall on the laps of the NFL owners and it might be too tempting to pass up the tens of millions each would enjoy if one or two more teams enter the National Football League.

Personally, I would rather see a re-location, if the powers that be decide The City of Fake Tits and Personalities needs deserves another team. Minneapolis is a great sports town (and a beautiful city to boot) and the Vikings have intense rivalries with the Packers and Bears, so cross them off the list. In addition, I doubt the NFL could be bereft (thanks, Tiki) of conscience to help Tom Benson move the Saints out of Louisiana. (For those who respond “but the NFL asked the Saints to lose a home game to play in London this season” consider that Tom Benson is making equal, if not more money than he would had the game been played at the SuperDome. )

Further, if the Bills did ever leave Niagara Falls, the logical move would be Toronto, where the team is trying to develop a fan base.

Therefore, the Jaguars are the most logical candidates. Despite being one of the most constistent teams in the NFL since their inception, the team does not sell out and the local games are blacked out. Sure, that might happen in sunny L.A., but the Jags owner and the NFL would make more mullah in the City of Demons.

Now, suppose the Jags did move to LA. What happens to the geographically designed (for the most part, anyway) divisions? I suggest moving the Saint Louis Rams to the AFC South and moving the new LA Jags to the NFC West. I could be wrong, but I doubt that Rams-Niners has been much of a rivalry since the days of Chris Everett and Flipper Anderson. Giants fans (like myself), please proceed to swallow a Chinese-made toy at the mention of those names.

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]]> By: alansaysyo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16576 alansaysyo Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:35:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16576 See, this is why I know I would never be good at land development. I would have never had the foresight to build a mega bajillion dollar stadium in an area like LA where there's currently no purpose whatsoever for it and the people there care only about USC and UCLA. Visionaries, man. Visionaries. See, this is why I know I would never be good at land development. I would have never had the foresight to build a mega bajillion dollar stadium in an area like LA where there’s currently no purpose whatsoever for it and the people there care only about USC and UCLA.

Visionaries, man. Visionaries.

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]]> By: jrhsd http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16573 jrhsd Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:32:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16573 one problem - nobody in west la or the wealthy part of orange county will drive to City of Industry. one problem - nobody in west la or the wealthy part of orange county will drive to City of Industry.

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]]> By: brianbaker6 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16559 brianbaker6 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:22:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16559 I have several issues with the design (as an architect, that's my first thought). First, the earthquake impact can be minimalized using structural techniques. All new buildings in earthquake prone areas are tested for seismic activity. That won't be a problem. What's interesting, is that their website promotes it as being a "sustainable development" and yet it's a long drive from everywhere. I'm sure the images they show of it being in a green field aren't accurate, but building sustainably would be building in an urban area with public transportation, not in a highway mess. Secondly, there is little substance to the design, just advertisements adorning every surface a la Times Square. The only cool feature is the fact that it is buried in a hillside...very college-like. I like that. The noise would be deafening. But only 70,000 seats? Won't get a Super Bowl that way... I have several issues with the design (as an architect, that’s my first thought). First, the earthquake impact can be minimalized using structural techniques. All new buildings in earthquake prone areas are tested for seismic activity. That won’t be a problem. What’s interesting, is that their website promotes it as being a “sustainable development” and yet it’s a long drive from everywhere. I’m sure the images they show of it being in a green field aren’t accurate, but building sustainably would be building in an urban area with public transportation, not in a highway mess. Secondly, there is little substance to the design, just advertisements adorning every surface a la Times Square. The only cool feature is the fact that it is buried in a hillside…very college-like. I like that. The noise would be deafening. But only 70,000 seats? Won’t get a Super Bowl that way…

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]]> By: Kotite http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16536 Kotite Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:01:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16536 LA has proven twice that they cannot sustain an NFL team. Screw the Nielsen Reports and the ridiculous market share LA has. They don't deserve a team. LA has proven twice that they cannot sustain an NFL team. Screw the Nielsen Reports and the ridiculous market share LA has. They don’t deserve a team.

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]]> By: FlyingElvis http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16511 FlyingElvis Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:16:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16511 jmikeh, lets leave that to the engineers. jmikeh, lets leave that to the engineers.

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]]> By: jmikeh http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16495 jmikeh Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:54:21 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16495 Built into the ground, eh? First time a quake hits, that sucker's done. Well thought-out... Built into the ground, eh? First time a quake hits, that sucker’s done. Well thought-out…

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]]> By: AUTigrr http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16494 AUTigrr Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:52:37 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16494 PackAttack maybe it is purple because both the Lakers and Kings have purple as a team color and Roski loves the color.... I like the idea of 17 games and 8 neutral site games in LA... PackAttack maybe it is purple because both the Lakers and Kings have purple as a team color and Roski loves the color….

I like the idea of 17 games and 8 neutral site games in LA…

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]]> By: sandyf http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16493 sandyf Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:52:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16493 I would bet either Vikings or Jags. San Diego is on the verge of a new stadium in north San Diego County and Buffalo will eventually play most games in Toronto, Canada which is what the NFL wants. The Vikings are trying to get a new stadium and this might speed it up but the Jags are the most likely. Of course what no one brings up is expansion and eventhough most think it won't happen, it could be a possiblity. It would be probably adding 4 teams though to either the NFC or to the AFC but not split. Los Angeles, Salt Lake City, San Antonio, Alburquee, Birmingham, Orlando, and Oklahoma City could all be possibles. I would bet either Vikings or Jags. San Diego is on the verge of a new stadium in north San Diego County and Buffalo will eventually play most games in Toronto, Canada which is what the NFL wants.

The Vikings are trying to get a new stadium and this might speed it up but the Jags are the most likely.

Of course what no one brings up is expansion and eventhough most think it won’t happen, it could be a possiblity. It would be probably adding 4 teams though to either the NFC or to the AFC but not split.

Los Angeles, Salt Lake City, San Antonio, Alburquee, Birmingham, Orlando, and Oklahoma City could all be possibles.

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]]> By: Keyser Soze http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16492 Keyser Soze Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:50:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16492 32 teams is such an nice number, for scheduling and such. I would be surprised if they go above that. The Vikings are certainly an option since the city decided to build the University of Minnesota and the Twins new stadiums, while the Vikings got left out in the cold... again. I've never heard a fanbase bitch so long about pitching in for a stadium all the while complaining about being considered as an option for relocation every single year. Follow the money trail. Either you want the team or not, and Minneapolis / St. Paul (as a whole) has been giving the "Get the hell out" vibe for years. Unfortunately, owning an NFL team is a business first and foremost (except for maybe the Packers, where it is more of a culture), and there are opportunities for many owners out there to increase their worth by considering these moves. LA has proven to be a risky venture, but business men see the dollar potential of the community and the popularity of a sports team like the Lakers (who also moved from Minnesota) and think... Maybe. 32 teams is such an nice number, for scheduling and such. I would be surprised if they go above that. The Vikings are certainly an option since the city decided to build the University of Minnesota and the Twins new stadiums, while the Vikings got left out in the cold… again. I’ve never heard a fanbase bitch so long about pitching in for a stadium all the while complaining about being considered as an option for relocation every single year. Follow the money trail. Either you want the team or not, and Minneapolis / St. Paul (as a whole) has been giving the “Get the hell out” vibe for years. Unfortunately, owning an NFL team is a business first and foremost (except for maybe the Packers, where it is more of a culture), and there are opportunities for many owners out there to increase their worth by considering these moves. LA has proven to be a risky venture, but business men see the dollar potential of the community and the popularity of a sports team like the Lakers (who also moved from Minnesota) and think… Maybe.

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]]> By: Mike Beckwith http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16487 Mike Beckwith Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:39:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16487 I used to live out there and I can tell you that aside from a select group, that those people really don't care if the NFL comes back or not. They still go to the sports bars to cheer for the Raiders and the Rams. You do realize they left you L.A. right??? Freaks. This isn't the first, nor will it be the last, stadium proposal in the Los Angeles area that will be ignored by the city leaders b/c nobody wants to pay for it. I used to live out there and I can tell you that aside from a select group, that those people really don’t care if the NFL comes back or not. They still go to the sports bars to cheer for the Raiders and the Rams. You do realize they left you L.A. right??? Freaks.

This isn’t the first, nor will it be the last, stadium proposal in the Los Angeles area that will be ignored by the city leaders b/c nobody wants to pay for it.

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]]> By: Fizzix http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16478 Fizzix Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:23:58 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16478 Has Al Davis scheduled his lawsuit yet? Has Al Davis scheduled his lawsuit yet?

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]]> By: filbertkiwi71 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16461 filbertkiwi71 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:05:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16461 I hope it is not the Chargers. I don't think I could route for them if they moved to LA. That being said, just about every other team I used to route for in every other sport has moved. I am a bit surprised that the Saints weren't mentioned as a possible moving team. I would rather have one of the more recent teams added to the league move, as opposed to any team that has an extensive history in the city in which it is currently located in. It would be interesting to compile a list of all of the teams and see what the attendance for home games was last season. It is unfortunate that it does seem that expansion isn't an option. Adding one team to Canada and one team to LA would be nice, but I don't think the league would be willing to do it. I hope it is not the Chargers. I don’t think I could route for them if they moved to LA. That being said, just about every other team I used to route for in every other sport has moved.

I am a bit surprised that the Saints weren’t mentioned as a possible moving team.

I would rather have one of the more recent teams added to the league move, as opposed to any team that has an extensive history in the city in which it is currently located in.

It would be interesting to compile a list of all of the teams and see what the attendance for home games was last season.

It is unfortunate that it does seem that expansion isn’t an option. Adding one team to Canada and one team to LA would be nice, but I don’t think the league would be willing to do it.

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]]> By: east96st http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16453 east96st Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:57:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16453 It says Super Bowl 46!!! So, minus a team, they are advertising that they will get the Super Bowl in the stadium's very first year (when there will be a lockout or strike). Looks like a great place for Southern Californians to either NOT go to see a football game or to go twenty minutes late and leave in the third quarter. Why try to force what LA has shown time and time again they have no real interest in? Any team that moves will regret it in five years when the novelty has worn off and the stands are empty. Again. It says Super Bowl 46!!! So, minus a team, they are advertising that they will get the Super Bowl in the stadium’s very first year (when there will be a lockout or strike). Looks like a great place for Southern Californians to either NOT go to see a football game or to go twenty minutes late and leave in the third quarter. Why try to force what LA has shown time and time again they have no real interest in? Any team that moves will regret it in five years when the novelty has worn off and the stands are empty. Again.

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]]> By: Pastabelly http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16452 Pastabelly Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:54:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16452 I hope it's the Chargers. I'd like to see the AFC have more bigger market teams. I hope it’s the Chargers. I’d like to see the AFC have more bigger market teams.

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]]> By: Topher http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16451 Topher Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:54:43 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16451 Los Angeles doesn't need, nor does it really want, an NFL team. But it can do is host a once a year, star-studded, gala affair better than any other city on the planet. Annual Los Angeles Super Bowl? Los Angeles doesn’t need, nor does it really want, an NFL team.

But it can do is host a once a year, star-studded, gala affair better than any other city on the planet.

Annual Los Angeles Super Bowl?

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]]> By: PackAttack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16440 PackAttack Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:31:33 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16440 Is it me or do the seats look purple? as in purple people eaters? Is it me or do the seats look purple? as in purple people eaters?

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]]> By: Wink and the Gun http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16433 Wink and the Gun Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:21:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/new-la-stadium-to-be-proposed-thursday/#comment-16433 I hope it's not the Jags - I don't think I could bring myself to root for an LA team I hope it’s not the Jags - I don’t think I could bring myself to root for an LA team

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