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Comments on: McNAIR TO RETIRE http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:58:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: wingnut http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16960 wingnut Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:16:55 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16960 Oh yea, I forgot about that pity MVP they gave Mcnair Oh yea, I forgot about that pity MVP they gave Mcnair

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]]> By: empty13 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16915 empty13 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:50:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16915 He was good not great, tough but I always questioned his conditioning. Playing behind low-technique masher lines can help that deterioration along, however... I think the D pushed that team into the playoffs, not McN dragging them, in 06. They didnt lose the playoff game because the D got rung up. They failed like a lot of teams, they got all old at once. Ray-ray isnt the same either. They have a few holes... That OL tanked in one year. I think Boller isnt THAT bad. He did a load better than McN last year. I expect as time goes on he will be one of those guys like Testaverde, too. After several years and systems... guess what... you done seen it all. It is too early to say Smith will do anything. Lets see starts 3 and up. He was good not great, tough but I always questioned his conditioning. Playing behind low-technique masher lines can help that deterioration along, however…

I think the D pushed that team into the playoffs, not McN dragging them, in 06. They didnt lose the playoff game because the D got rung up.

They failed like a lot of teams, they got all old at once. Ray-ray isnt the same either. They have a few holes… That OL tanked in one year.

I think Boller isnt THAT bad. He did a load better than McN last year. I expect as time goes on he will be one of those guys like Testaverde, too. After several years and systems… guess what… you done seen it all.

It is too early to say Smith will do anything. Lets see starts 3 and up.

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]]> By: Dont Taze Me Bro http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16912 Dont Taze Me Bro Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:45:58 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16912 Kerry Collins and Steve McNair were drafted the same year. McNair has 4 more career starts than Collins. Collins has 3413 more yards passing. They have the exact same number of TD passes, 174. They both led a team to a Super Bowl. McNair also had the advantage of sitting and learning for 2 seasons, before becoming a starter in year 3. Collins was thrown to the wolves, starting 13 games as a rookie on an expansion team in it's first season. McNair also had the advantage of playing on better teams for virtually his entire career. Collins was asked to make things happen on mostly bad teams. McNair got to hand the ball to Eddie George and manage games backed up by a tough defense. They have had pretty similar careers yet somehow Collins is regarded as a journeyman, and McNair gets talked about as an all time great. McNair is extremely overrated. He was never more than a decent starter. Just like Collins. Kerry Collins and Steve McNair were drafted the same year. McNair has 4 more career starts than Collins. Collins has 3413 more yards passing. They have the exact same number of TD passes, 174. They both led a team to a Super Bowl.

McNair also had the advantage of sitting and learning for 2 seasons, before becoming a starter in year 3. Collins was thrown to the wolves, starting 13 games as a rookie on an expansion team in it’s first season. McNair also had the advantage of playing on better teams for virtually his entire career. Collins was asked to make things happen on mostly bad teams. McNair got to hand the ball to Eddie George and manage games backed up by a tough defense.

They have had pretty similar careers yet somehow Collins is regarded as a journeyman, and McNair gets talked about as an all time great.

McNair is extremely overrated. He was never more than a decent starter. Just like Collins.

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]]> By: Bradybunch http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16852 Bradybunch Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:54:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16852 M. ost oV. errated P. layer M. ost oV. errated P. layer

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]]> By: Osiris33 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16826 Osiris33 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:53:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16826 brian_21, that co-MVP thing was totally political. There wasn't a GM in the league who would have taken Manning over McNair, including the Titans GM. That doesn't mean anything. Again, show me the footage of all the great throws. Show me the stats with big numbers. Show me the big games in the playoffs. I just don't see it. I never did. brian_21, that co-MVP thing was totally political. There wasn’t a GM in the league who would have taken Manning over McNair, including the Titans GM. That doesn’t mean anything.

Again, show me the footage of all the great throws. Show me the stats with big numbers. Show me the big games in the playoffs.

I just don’t see it. I never did.

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]]> By: The Jimmy http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16822 The Jimmy Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:43:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16822 From the standpoint of a Steeler fan, I have to agree with Dwayne Rudd. I hope Baltimore goes with Boller. I always liked McNair. I don' t how any football fan who saw him at least twice a year couldn't at least respect him. He was a class act and a fighter. He always made me nervous with the ball in his hands. From the standpoint of a Steeler fan, I have to agree with Dwayne Rudd. I hope Baltimore goes with Boller.

I always liked McNair. I don’ t how any football fan who saw him at least twice a year couldn’t at least respect him. He was a class act and a fighter. He always made me nervous with the ball in his hands.

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]]> By: skaybaltimore http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16801 skaybaltimore Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:08:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16801 I agree with Chris from MD. McNair was a drain on the team, aside from a couple of good games against the Steelers, Chiefs, and Saints. The rest of the time, he looked dazed and confused. He was the slowest QB I've ever seen getting up to the line of scrimmage, he refused to work out in the off season to help extend his career and possibly reduce further injuries, he didn't appear to be the brightest bulb in the pack, and, in tandem with CompuCoach Brain Billick (misspelling intentional) he was a disaster (i.e. he holds the dubious record for the most passes for the least yards in the history of the NFL) and he would have been a disaster this year had he not retired. Let's see what coach Harbaugh and OC Cam Cameron can do with Boller and Smith. This scenario is so much better than a Billick/McNair nightmare I don't even care how many games the Ravens win in 2008. At least they're now on the road to somewhere, vs. going nowhere fast. I agree with Chris from MD. McNair was a drain on the team, aside from a couple of good games against the Steelers, Chiefs, and Saints. The rest of the time, he looked dazed and confused. He was the slowest QB I’ve ever seen getting up to the line of scrimmage, he refused to work out in the off season to help extend his career and possibly reduce further injuries, he didn’t appear to be the brightest bulb in the pack, and, in tandem with CompuCoach Brain Billick (misspelling intentional) he was a disaster (i.e. he holds the dubious record for the most passes for the least yards in the history of the NFL) and he would have been a disaster this year had he not retired. Let’s see what coach Harbaugh and OC Cam Cameron can do with Boller and Smith. This scenario is so much better than a Billick/McNair nightmare I don’t even care how many games the Ravens win in 2008. At least they’re now on the road to somewhere, vs. going nowhere fast.

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]]> By: Combo89 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16708 Combo89 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:34:21 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16708 This doesn't really change much of Baltimore's planing. They knew that his game has declined too much to be a quality starter. Chances were that it'd end up like last year; play 6 or 7 games, get hurt and have KB or a draft pick take over. That being said, McNair has done a lot for the game, and I'm sad to see him go. Just yet another example of a body broken down before its time. This doesn’t really change much of Baltimore’s planing. They knew that his game has declined too much to be a quality starter. Chances were that it’d end up like last year; play 6 or 7 games, get hurt and have KB or a draft pick take over.

That being said, McNair has done a lot for the game, and I’m sad to see him go. Just yet another example of a body broken down before its time.

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]]> By: Chris from MD http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16705 Chris from MD Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:30:19 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16705 Anyone that thinks that McNair was good for the Ravens is silly. Name one game for them that he went out and dominated? He didn't. It was stupid of them to give up a 3rd round pick(I think) and two years of the franchise to a guy who was washed up. The major problem at QB was the jackass of a coach, with that guy out of the way, I look for Boller or Smith to come into their own. Anyone that thinks that McNair was good for the Ravens is silly. Name one game for them that he went out and dominated? He didn’t. It was stupid of them to give up a 3rd round pick(I think) and two years of the franchise to a guy who was washed up. The major problem at QB was the jackass of a coach, with that guy out of the way, I look for Boller or Smith to come into their own.

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]]> By: Matt H. http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16704 Matt H. Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:29:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16704 He retired five years ago. He retired five years ago.

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]]> By: Tom http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16696 Tom Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:15:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16696 Farewell Gladiator. Yes, your last two seasons hurt to watch but you tried, and who should fault that? To you glib used-to-bes (though I doubt it)and wannabes who have posted smart-ass comments, take a look in the mirror and tell us, are you a man on the same level, character-wise as Steve McNair? He was a great athlete. He should be honored rather than besmirched. Farewell Gladiator. Yes, your last two seasons hurt to watch but you tried, and who should fault that? To you glib used-to-bes (though I doubt it)and wannabes who have posted smart-ass comments, take a look in the mirror and tell us, are you a man on the same level, character-wise as Steve McNair? He was a great athlete. He should be honored rather than besmirched.

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]]> By: DaDence http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16695 DaDence Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:13:51 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16695 How much cap room does this leave the Ravens? Enough to sign Suggs long-term? Personally, Boller's got to go - he's a failed project of the Billick era. Make Troy Smith QB day 1, and draft a rookie to learn the ropes. How much cap room does this leave the Ravens? Enough to sign Suggs long-term?
Personally, Boller’s got to go - he’s a failed project of the Billick era. Make Troy Smith QB day 1, and draft a rookie to learn the ropes.

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]]> By: brian_21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16689 brian_21 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:06:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16689 Osiris33, your mind is too simple. You have to look at Steve McNair's entire career. He had a great one. He even won the co-MVP with Peyton Manning. He led his team to a near Super Bowl victory. His skills deteriorated at the end. That is not uncommon. Yeah, like Florio said, it would have been better to wait until after the NFL draft for the Baltimore Ravens to disclose information regarding McNair's pending retirement as to not attract attention for the upcoming draft. Saying that, the Ravens aren't going after a first round quarterback. They have two young QBs. And DwayneRudd, the Ravens should commit to a quarterback, like you said. You happened to pick the wrong one. Kyle Boller stinks. He will always stink. The answer to your comment is Troy Smith. Osiris33, your mind is too simple. You have to look at Steve McNair’s entire career. He had a great one. He even won the co-MVP with Peyton Manning. He led his team to a near Super Bowl victory. His skills deteriorated at the end. That is not uncommon.

Yeah, like Florio said, it would have been better to wait until after the NFL draft for the Baltimore Ravens to disclose information regarding McNair’s pending retirement as to not attract attention for the upcoming draft.

Saying that, the Ravens aren’t going after a first round quarterback. They have two young QBs.

And DwayneRudd, the Ravens should commit to a quarterback, like you said. You happened to pick the wrong one. Kyle Boller stinks. He will always stink. The answer to your comment is Troy Smith.

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]]> By: Pastabelly http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16680 Pastabelly Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:46:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16680 Matt Ryan will never make it to number 8 in the draft and the Patriots will make sure of that. If Ryan is on the board at 7, he'll be dealt in exchange for another team's first round pick and a second or a third. Ryan will probably be gone before 7. But he won't slip past 7. Matt Ryan will never make it to number 8 in the draft and the Patriots will make sure of that. If Ryan is on the board at 7, he’ll be dealt in exchange for another team’s first round pick and a second or a third. Ryan will probably be gone before 7. But he won’t slip past 7.

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]]> By: DwayneRudd http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16650 DwayneRudd Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:06:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16650 I also hope the Ravens commit to Kyle Boller. But I'm a Browns fan. I also hope the Ravens commit to Kyle Boller. But I’m a Browns fan.

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]]> By: Jeremiah W http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16641 Jeremiah W Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:55:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16641 He was a great player and a class act. It is too bad he got hurt before he could make up for a bad playoff game. He should be getting more respect. The Ravens will not be better off without him, but the cap room his retirement creates will help us. Perhaps we can sign Ocho Stinko if the Bungles let him buy his way out of the dumpster of the NFL franchises. He was a great player and a class act. It is too bad he got hurt before he could make up for a bad playoff game. He should be getting more respect. The Ravens will not be better off without him, but the cap room his retirement creates will help us.

Perhaps we can sign Ocho Stinko if the Bungles let him buy his way out of the dumpster of the NFL franchises.

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]]> By: NonYahooHotmailAcct http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16639 NonYahooHotmailAcct Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:52:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16639 It's about time McNair made this decision. He was absolutely dreadful last year, and like one of the comments above said: Boller was the better QB. I truly believe Boller IS the answer at QB for the Ravens, and that knowing he's the guy would only make him that much better. It’s about time McNair made this decision. He was absolutely dreadful last year, and like one of the comments above said: Boller was the better QB.

I truly believe Boller IS the answer at QB for the Ravens, and that knowing he’s the guy would only make him that much better.

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]]> By: Osiris33 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16628 Osiris33 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:34:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16628 One of the most overrated players in NFL history. In 10 years, I never saw the guy do anything that made me say "gee, I sure wish my Seahawks had McNair." The Ravens are better off without him. One of the most overrated players in NFL history. In 10 years, I never saw the guy do anything that made me say “gee, I sure wish my Seahawks had McNair.”

The Ravens are better off without him.

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]]> By: CapsLockKey http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16624 CapsLockKey Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:26:34 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16624 I doubt this changes anything in terms of what teams were thinking going into the draft. Everyone and their brother knew the Ravens are looking for a new QB next year. Even if McNair did hang around he would have been garbage, that is if he would have even been able to stay on the field for more than a handful of games. I doubt this changes anything in terms of what teams were thinking going into the draft. Everyone and their brother knew the Ravens are looking for a new QB next year. Even if McNair did hang around he would have been garbage, that is if he would have even been able to stay on the field for more than a handful of games.

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]]> By: TitansBrad http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16600 TitansBrad Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:06:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16600 Ummm, no Hartley. He's already his mentor, and believe it or not Kerry Collins is better. Ummm, no Hartley. He’s already his mentor, and believe it or not Kerry Collins is better.

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]]> By: wingnut http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16597 wingnut Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:58:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16597 Hey there's room in the PFT dumbster, oh, he retired... my bad! Hey there’s room in the PFT dumbster, oh, he retired… my bad!

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]]> By: hartley http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16596 hartley Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:57:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16596 Titans fans were hoping for him to come to his senses, and agree to be a backup/mentor to Vince Young. Guess not. Titans fans were hoping for him to come to his senses, and agree to be a backup/mentor to Vince Young.

Guess not.

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]]> By: jrhsd http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16593 jrhsd Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:54:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16593 Sounds to me like they want somebody to trade in front of them for a QB hoping a player falls to them at #8. Sounds to me like they want somebody to trade in front of them for a QB hoping a player falls to them at #8.

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]]> By: dogg91702 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16586 dogg91702 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:45:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16586 Man the Ravens are hurting on offense, if they get Matt Ryan then they will be cool but, Brohm's arm doesn't have enough zip on it for the NFL IMO. If Atlanta take Ryan then the ravens need to try and trade for Derek Anderson. Man the Ravens are hurting on offense, if they get Matt Ryan then they will be cool but, Brohm’s arm doesn’t have enough zip on it for the NFL IMO. If Atlanta take Ryan then the ravens need to try and trade for Derek Anderson.

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]]> By: TexasVike http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16584 TexasVike Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:43:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16584 The ravens could get a good QB in round 2. That QB would get less cash and also would be signed quicker. The ravens could get a good QB in round 2. That QB would get less cash and also would be signed quicker.

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]]> By: hadaad http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16577 hadaad Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:35:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16577 I don't see what this changed in the Ravens' draft plans. Steve McNair was a diminishing return anyway, and if you're going to draft a guy like Matt Ryan in the first round, it's not going to be for the short-term. If they were going to draft him, they still will. If they weren't, they had to be fairly confident of their long-term situation or at least planning to look somewhere else. I don’t see what this changed in the Ravens’ draft plans. Steve McNair was a diminishing return anyway, and if you’re going to draft a guy like Matt Ryan in the first round, it’s not going to be for the short-term. If they were going to draft him, they still will. If they weren’t, they had to be fairly confident of their long-term situation or at least planning to look somewhere else.

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]]> By: Super Florio http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16574 Super Florio Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:33:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16574 Kyle Boller, Troy Smith, Matt Ryan or Steve McNair. It doesn't matter: the team will still finish in the McBasement. Kyle Boller, Troy Smith, Matt Ryan or Steve McNair. It doesn’t matter: the team will still finish in the McBasement.

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]]> By: Cave_Canem http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16572 Cave_Canem Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:32:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16572 My image of him will always be him escaping from Kevin Carter in the last minutes of Super Bowl XXXIV to keep the drive alive, vintage McNair. My image of him will always be him escaping from Kevin Carter in the last minutes of Super Bowl XXXIV to keep the drive alive, vintage McNair.

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]]> By: alansaysyo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16570 alansaysyo Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:29:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16570 McNair had a great career and I'll be sad to see him go. Would be nice if he could retire as a Titan (or GASP! an Oiler). McNair had a great career and I’ll be sad to see him go. Would be nice if he could retire as a Titan (or GASP! an Oiler).

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]]> By: JWBBZ http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16569 JWBBZ Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:28:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16569 McNair retiring will spare us from endless boring reports about how his shoulder is doing...thank goodness. Here's to the blackbirds bringing in Joe Flacco McNair retiring will spare us from endless boring reports about how his shoulder is doing…thank goodness. Here’s to the blackbirds bringing in Joe Flacco

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]]> By: ryand http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16568 ryand Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:28:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16568 Good move by Mcnair. Leave with some of your body left and a bit of dignity. Last year was a TERRIBLE performance at QB...I mean really, really bad...I felt bad for the guy. Good move by Mcnair. Leave with some of your body left and a bit of dignity. Last year was a TERRIBLE performance at QB…I mean really, really bad…I felt bad for the guy.

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]]> By: jgd3rd http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16567 jgd3rd Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:27:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16567 Good news no doubt.... Does anyone know what the salary cap implications are? Mcnair had a decent salarly and had a ~21M signing bonus. Let's get on with fixing the offense. No doubt that will occue just when the defense will fall apart! Good news no doubt…. Does anyone know what the salary cap implications are? Mcnair had a decent salarly and had a ~21M signing bonus.

Let’s get on with fixing the offense. No doubt that will occue just when the defense will fall apart!

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]]> By: wvugrad00 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16565 wvugrad00 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:27:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16565 is that the same yahmpy from the emb? The eagles have two QB that can be had for a first day pick, and I am not talking about McNabb. is that the same yahmpy from the emb?

The eagles have two QB that can be had for a first day pick, and I am not talking about McNabb.

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]]> By: RedbullnRaiders http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16561 RedbullnRaiders Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:22:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16561 About time, I don't think there was a slower player in the NFL. I don't see why they don't put Troy Smith in more. He was a consistant QB for Ohio until he was owned in the national championship. About time, I don’t think there was a slower player in the NFL. I don’t see why they don’t put Troy Smith in more. He was a consistant QB for Ohio until he was owned in the national championship.

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]]> By: RyanHarris http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16560 RyanHarris Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:22:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16560 I would think that the coaching staff would be doing backflips after hearing this. McNair was a warrior for sure, his first season in Baltimore he dragged the Ravens into the playoffs. But he was so beat up against the Colts that he couldnt get the ball more than 8 yards down the field. But really he never helped this team and the case could be made that he actually prevented it from growing. My biggest knock against McNair was that he never practiced. Absolutely he was tough as nails and played through pain, but at the same time its nearly impossible for teammates to get used to playing with one guy on sunday and another guy 3 or 4 days a week. Regardless he had an impressive career and we him all the best. I would think that the coaching staff would be doing backflips after hearing this.

McNair was a warrior for sure, his first season in Baltimore he dragged the Ravens into the playoffs. But he was so beat up against the Colts that he couldnt get the ball more than 8 yards down the field.

But really he never helped this team and the case could be made that he actually prevented it from growing. My biggest knock against McNair was that he never practiced. Absolutely he was tough as nails and played through pain, but at the same time its nearly impossible for teammates to get used to playing with one guy on sunday and another guy 3 or 4 days a week.

Regardless he had an impressive career and we him all the best.

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]]> By: Chris from MD http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16558 Chris from MD Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:21:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16558 Not just good news, great news. McNair had a fluke year in Baltimore when they went 13-3, his second season he was trash and oft injured. I think Joe Flacco would be a much better fit for the Ravens than Matt Ryan or Brian Brohm. To be honest, I'd actually wait until much later and draft Colt Brennan. Sure, his TEAM got smashed by Georgia, but the kid still has a strong arm and can make throws. With the #8 pick the Ravens would be smart to take an OT to replace Ogden who's sure to retire soon as well. Not just good news, great news. McNair had a fluke year in Baltimore when they went 13-3, his second season he was trash and oft injured. I think Joe Flacco would be a much better fit for the Ravens than Matt Ryan or Brian Brohm. To be honest, I’d actually wait until much later and draft Colt Brennan. Sure, his TEAM got smashed by Georgia, but the kid still has a strong arm and can make throws. With the #8 pick the Ravens would be smart to take an OT to replace Ogden who’s sure to retire soon as well.

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]]> By: andfitch82 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16552 andfitch82 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:15:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16552 This is either really good news or really bad news. On one hand it gives the competition to probably Troy Smith (since Boller has a good game, then tanks it with a horrible game) and there isn't much of a dispute heading into the season. Or, it means that The Ravens select Matt Ryan and there isn't a solid vet. to show him the ropes. Which would thrust Boller into action until at least week 5. Now the team can't focus on corner backs and recievers, it needs a leader whether its through the draft or with Boller (possibly) or Smith stepping up. This is either really good news or really bad news. On one hand it gives the competition to probably Troy Smith (since Boller has a good game, then tanks it with a horrible game) and there isn’t much of a dispute heading into the season. Or, it means that The Ravens select Matt Ryan and there isn’t a solid vet. to show him the ropes. Which would thrust Boller into action until at least week 5. Now the team can’t focus on corner backs and recievers, it needs a leader whether its through the draft or with Boller (possibly) or Smith stepping up.

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]]> By: yahmpy http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16541 yahmpy Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:04:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16541 I guess it really was McNair puking at the off-season workouts, lol. Go ahead Andy Reid, trade 'em AJ Feeley for a second day pick. God, the Browns are going to beat the Ravens brains in for years to come. Brian Billick should change his name to Nero for what he did to this team, but I guess alls well when you win a Lombardi. I guess it really was McNair puking at the off-season workouts, lol.

Go ahead Andy Reid, trade ‘em AJ Feeley for a second day pick. God, the Browns are going to beat the Ravens brains in for years to come.

Brian Billick should change his name to Nero for what he did to this team, but I guess alls well when you win a Lombardi.

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]]> By: Kotite http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16540 Kotite Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:04:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16540 Looks like Favre found his fishing buddy. Looks like Favre found his fishing buddy.

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]]> By: KY http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16539 KY Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:04:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16539 Kinda sad...McNair was a great player who got old VERY quickly. Smart move on his part to retire. Kinda sad…McNair was a great player who got old VERY quickly. Smart move on his part to retire.

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]]> By: AllSeeingEye http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16532 AllSeeingEye Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:54:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16532 I think that may be exactly what the Ravens are doing. Kyle Boller played as well or better than McNair last year. I don't know why everyone was just handing the starting job to McNair anyway. He was already in Mark Brunell territory anyway in my opinion. I don't see any reason why Boller can't turn into the next Vinny Testiverde and end up having a solid career. Kyle does not seem to have the same (ahem) issues that David Carr has and the Ravens don't need a superstar at QB with their defense. I think that may be exactly what the Ravens are doing. Kyle Boller played as well or better than McNair last year. I don’t know why everyone was just handing the starting job to McNair anyway. He was already in Mark Brunell territory anyway in my opinion. I don’t see any reason why Boller can’t turn into the next Vinny Testiverde and end up having a solid career. Kyle does not seem to have the same (ahem) issues that David Carr has and the Ravens don’t need a superstar at QB with their defense.

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]]> By: ravensfan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16530 ravensfan Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:51:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16530 This is horrible news. With the 8th pick the Baltimore Ravens select QB Matt Ryan. This is horrible news. With the 8th pick the Baltimore Ravens select QB Matt Ryan.

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]]> By: ppdoc http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16529 ppdoc Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:51:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16529 good. now instead of retooling we can rebuild the offense. good. now instead of retooling we can rebuild the offense.

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]]> By: jar94 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16528 jar94 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:49:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/mcnair-to-retire/#comment-16528 Definitely look for a team to trade up with the rams and try and snag matt ryan Definitely look for a team to trade up with the rams and try and snag matt ryan

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