Comments on: JETS TAKING LONG LOOK AT MCFADDEN http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:13:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: itsacurse http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-17275 itsacurse Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:26:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-17275 the SEC is more the NFL than Pac-10, Jonathan Stewart fan. the SEC is more the NFL than Pac-10, Jonathan Stewart fan.

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]]> By: ranciddog1967 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-17207 ranciddog1967 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:34:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-17207 What a terrible mistake the Jets would be making if they took McFadden at 1.06. I could understand Stewart, Mendenhall or Rice but McFadden is plain outright overrated. Go find a game film where McFadden is able to get thru traffic at the LOS, you wont find any. Unless DMAC is in open space where he can be real effective, he goes nowhere, no cut, no wiggle no power - none. He's not Dickerson and people need to quit comparing the both of them. The SEC is not the NFL and to believe that McFadden is going to have 10 foot holes and slow secondaries pursuing him in the NFL is just plain stupid. DMAC will look more like William Green than Adrian Peterson or Reggie *&^ Bust. Please watch an Arkansas Game film before swooning all over this dude. What a terrible mistake the Jets would be making if they took McFadden at 1.06. I could understand Stewart, Mendenhall or Rice but McFadden is plain outright overrated. Go find a game film where McFadden is able to get thru traffic at the LOS, you wont find any. Unless DMAC is in open space where he can be real effective, he goes nowhere, no cut, no wiggle no power - none. He’s not Dickerson and people need to quit comparing the both of them. The SEC is not the NFL and to believe that McFadden is going to have 10 foot holes and slow secondaries pursuing him in the NFL is just plain stupid. DMAC will look more like William Green than Adrian Peterson or Reggie *&^ Bust. Please watch an Arkansas Game film before swooning all over this dude.

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]]> By: itsacurse http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-17089 itsacurse Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:31:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-17089 ...not to the same degree that Alex Van Dyke and Dedric Ward kept AFC East defensive backs up at night. …not to the same degree that Alex Van Dyke and Dedric Ward kept AFC East defensive backs up at night.

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]]> By: bavaro89 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-17067 bavaro89 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:56:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-17067 itsacurse, Are you suggesting Freeman McNeil, Johnny Hector, Roger Vick, Adrian Murrell, and Johnny Johnson didn't strike fear in defensive coordinators around the league? itsacurse,

Are you suggesting Freeman McNeil, Johnny Hector, Roger Vick, Adrian Murrell, and Johnny Johnson didn’t strike fear in defensive coordinators around the league?

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]]> By: itsacurse http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-17044 itsacurse Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:15:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-17044 The last time the Jets had a big play threat was.......oh never. That type of player is so foreign to Jets fans they think they don't need them. TAKE THE FRIGGIN GUY. IT'S A NO BRAINER. The last time the Jets had a big play threat was…….oh never.

That type of player is so foreign to Jets fans they think they don’t need them. TAKE THE FRIGGIN GUY. IT’S A NO BRAINER.

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]]> By: dylman6992 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-17019 dylman6992 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:32:20 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-17019 Either way the Jets go, I'll be pleased. I think McFadden is the best player in the draft, and would be a great complement to Jones and Washington. If I had to lean one way though, I would prefer Gholston. I don't think 3 Rbs is really that necessary, and the only reason why the Jets running game wasn't great last year was because of their o-line. Now with a line consiting of Faneca, Woody, Mangold, and Ferguson, their running game will be better with or without McFadden. McFadden is a great player, but I like Gholston. I heard a stat about how Jake Long only gave up 2 sacks last year, and both were to Gholston. He reminds me a lot of Dwight Freeney, and could help solidify the Jets 3-4 defense that picked up Kris Jenkins and Calvin Pace. If you think about it, the Jets front line would than be Ellis, Jenkins, and Gholston. Sounds pretty good to me. Regardless, the Jets' pick is completely dependant on who the Raiders take. Also if the Jets really wanted an Rb, they could look for one in the second round because Jonathan Stewart may very well still be on the board. Either player works, and both will be great down the road,but I think Gholston would be the better fit. Either way the Jets go, I’ll be pleased. I think McFadden is the best player in the draft, and would be a great complement to Jones and Washington. If I had to lean one way though, I would prefer Gholston. I don’t think 3 Rbs is really that necessary, and the only reason why the Jets running game wasn’t great last year was because of their o-line. Now with a line consiting of Faneca, Woody, Mangold, and Ferguson, their running game will be better with or without McFadden. McFadden is a great player, but I like Gholston. I heard a stat about how Jake Long only gave up 2 sacks last year, and both were to Gholston. He reminds me a lot of Dwight Freeney, and could help solidify the Jets 3-4 defense that picked up Kris Jenkins and Calvin Pace. If you think about it, the Jets front line would than be Ellis, Jenkins, and Gholston. Sounds pretty good to me. Regardless, the Jets’ pick is completely dependant on who the Raiders take. Also if the Jets really wanted an Rb, they could look for one in the second round because Jonathan Stewart may very well still be on the board. Either player works, and both will be great down the road,but I think Gholston would be the better fit.

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]]> By: RedbullnRaiders http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16993 RedbullnRaiders Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:40:55 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16993 Thomas Jones is a beast. Except he's in his 30's almost, and he kinda never did much...so he may look big, but he's not that tight. Jets need some work done to them. Not to mention they're in a crappy division right now so their standards are set really high due to one team. I'd say Jets need to take a RB, If not McFadden then take the next best, I kind of like Kevin Smith. Get that position filled and work that run game out since your QB blows. Thomas Jones is a beast. Except he’s in his 30’s almost, and he kinda never did much…so he may look big, but he’s not that tight. Jets need some work done to them. Not to mention they’re in a crappy division right now so their standards are set really high due to one team. I’d say Jets need to take a RB, If not McFadden then take the next best, I kind of like Kevin Smith. Get that position filled and work that run game out since your QB blows.

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]]> By: roofdog http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16970 roofdog Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:29:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16970 It doesn't matter your still going to be cellar dwellers. It doesn’t matter your still going to be cellar dwellers.

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]]> By: KGleits http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16967 KGleits Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:12:39 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16967 If McFadden had some ability to be agile and elusive or maybe powerful and truck over linebackers and safeties, then he would be an amazing NFL running back. Unfortunately he posses none of these qualities though. He could be productive in the future, but until he finds a way to integrate and become more powerful, he will struggle. Rashard Mendenhall and Jonathan Stewart should integrate quite well into the NFL for their first year, unlike McFadden. If McFadden had some ability to be agile and elusive or maybe powerful and truck over linebackers and safeties, then he would be an amazing NFL running back. Unfortunately he posses none of these qualities though. He could be productive in the future, but until he finds a way to integrate and become more powerful, he will struggle. Rashard Mendenhall and Jonathan Stewart should integrate quite well into the NFL for their first year, unlike McFadden.

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]]> By: Henry Plainview http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16965 Henry Plainview Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:35:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16965 McFadden played in the SEC, not Pac-10, like Bush, big difference. McFadden is like Eric Dickerson plain and simple. McFadden played in the SEC, not Pac-10, like Bush, big difference. McFadden is like Eric Dickerson plain and simple.

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]]> By: Stinkfist http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16959 Stinkfist Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:05:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16959 Keep looking hard, I want the 'boys to get spooked into grabbing our (miami's) #1 pick ;). although it could be yet another smokescreen by a team to get the cowboys to jump to #6, which would be cheaper then a jump to #1. Keep looking hard, I want the ‘boys to get spooked into grabbing our (miami’s) #1 pick ;). although it could be yet another smokescreen by a team to get the cowboys to jump to #6, which would be cheaper then a jump to #1.

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]]> By: SeanMartin http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16957 SeanMartin Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:01:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16957 I feel as if there will be a VERY big surprise in this years draft. Raiders taking Chiefs take McFadden... I feel as if there will be a VERY big surprise in this years draft. Raiders taking Chiefs take McFadden…

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]]> By: DozenDeuce http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16943 DozenDeuce Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:41:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16943 If you want great athletes go to the Olympics. Far, far too many times people get enamored with a player's 40 time (see: Bush, Reggie) rather than their running style & running instincts while playing football. And how those will translate to the NFL version of football. How often do you think Monsieur Bush had Mike LBs running with him stride for stride in college? But when New Orleans played the Bears in the playoffs during Chicago's Super Bowl run, that's exactly what Urlacher was able to do. Speed's great but has to be in combination with agility like in Barry Sanders/Marshall Faulk and/or power as with Walter Payton or last year's Adrian Peterson. I think McFadden will be good in the NFL but feel both Mendenhall and Stewart are far more likely to blow up in this league. I mean, how often does McFadden "truck" a saftey or juke a LB out of his cleats while emerging from a hole? Not. Very. Often. If you want great athletes go to the Olympics. Far, far too many times people get enamored with a player’s 40 time (see: Bush, Reggie) rather than their running style & running instincts while playing football. And how those will translate to the NFL version of football.

How often do you think Monsieur Bush had Mike LBs running with him stride for stride in college? But when New Orleans played the Bears in the playoffs during Chicago’s Super Bowl run, that’s exactly what Urlacher was able to do.

Speed’s great but has to be in combination with agility like in Barry Sanders/Marshall Faulk and/or power as with Walter Payton or last year’s Adrian Peterson. I think McFadden will be good in the NFL but feel both Mendenhall and Stewart are far more likely to blow up in this league. I mean, how often does McFadden “truck” a saftey or juke a LB out of his cleats while emerging from a hole? Not. Very. Often.

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]]> By: Ches http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16942 Ches Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:38:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16942 Washington is still there, but he more of a KR and a 3rd down back. Not really an every down guy, of course McFadden isn't one either, but he could be a big play impact guy. Washington is still there, but he more of a KR and a 3rd down back. Not really an every down guy, of course McFadden isn’t one either, but he could be a big play impact guy.

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]]> By: Matt http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16938 Matt Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:02:26 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16938 Jones will be 30 in August and he's only started all 16 games once in his career, so taking McFadden would still serve a need. Personally I think this will be a moot point anyway, as some team may jump to 4 or 5 to pick him up. The kid certainly has that homerun factor - tough to pass up, even if you have other more-pressing needs. Jones will be 30 in August and he’s only started all 16 games once in his career, so taking McFadden would still serve a need. Personally I think this will be a moot point anyway, as some team may jump to 4 or 5 to pick him up. The kid certainly has that homerun factor - tough to pass up, even if you have other more-pressing needs.

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]]> By: ChrisJNelson http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16937 ChrisJNelson Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:01:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16937 If McFadden is there, I don't see how they pass on him. I don't know where else they'd go. Even if someone like Gholston were available, they already have a TON of dough tied up in the OLB position. If McFadden is there, I don’t see how they pass on him. I don’t know where else they’d go. Even if someone like Gholston were available, they already have a TON of dough tied up in the OLB position.

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]]> By: cowboysdw28mb3 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16935 cowboysdw28mb3 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:58:21 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16935 What ever happened to Leon Washington? Wasn't it just a couple years ago he looked like he good be a back of the future, or at least a compliment back? I don't get it. What ever happened to Leon Washington? Wasn’t it just a couple years ago he looked like he good be a back of the future, or at least a compliment back? I don’t get it.

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]]> By: Ches http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16932 Ches Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:56:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16932 Good stuff, I am sure that the Jets would rather have Gholston but I am sure they would be pleased with McFadden. Good stuff, I am sure that the Jets would rather have Gholston but I am sure they would be pleased with McFadden.

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]]> By: brian_21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16931 brian_21 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:54:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/jets-taking-long-look-at-mcfadden/#comment-16931 The New York Jets will DEFINITELY take Daren McFadden if he is there at six. He shouldn't be there though. But many GMs seem to be unintelligent individuals, so it wouldn't surprise me. The New York Jets will DEFINITELY take Daren McFadden if he is there at six. He shouldn’t be there though. But many GMs seem to be unintelligent individuals, so it wouldn’t surprise me.

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