Comments on: FALCONS MIX THINGS UP AT MINICAMP http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:21:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: bubba http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-17262 bubba Sat, 19 Apr 2008 00:01:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-17262 I think bringing this up is Florio's way of ambulance chasing. A player complaining about contact is like a porn star complaining about getting something in her eye. eheheheh. I think bringing this up is Florio’s way of ambulance chasing. A player complaining about contact is like a porn star complaining about getting something in her eye. eheheheh.

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]]> By: starman http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16977 starman Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:55:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16977 I think I broke his freaking neck! I think I broke his freaking neck!

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]]> By: screaming sheep http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16971 screaming sheep Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:12:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16971 I think the Falcons may have been tampering with a player before free agency too. When does the schedule come out? I think the Falcons may have been tampering with a player before free agency too. When does the schedule come out?

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]]> By: DozenDeuce http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16963 DozenDeuce Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:46:19 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16963 This issue will continue to come up again and again because the real issue is a political one, not a practical one. The League knows what goes on, but they only officially "know" when a complaint is filed, so they have plausible deniability. Likewise, the players union also has plausible deniability since they don't "know" until a member makes their voice heard. But while it's in their members best interest, the NFLPA will never give up the concession that the guys are just supposed to be doing "walk-throughs", and allow pads, without significant compensation. In turn, the NFL will never ask for the concession, because of what they would be required to give up in return. However, both sides recognize most guys (especially rookies and those near the roster bubble) need as many "full-speed" reps as possible, pads or no, in order to put the best product on the field. At the end of the day, changing things isn't convenient nor is it in the best interests of those with the power to make the change. Sorry, Florio. This issue will continue to come up again and again because the real issue is a political one, not a practical one. The League knows what goes on, but they only officially “know” when a complaint is filed, so they have plausible deniability. Likewise, the players union also has plausible deniability since they don’t “know” until a member makes their voice heard.

But while it’s in their members best interest, the NFLPA will never give up the concession that the guys are just supposed to be doing “walk-throughs”, and allow pads, without significant compensation. In turn, the NFL will never ask for the concession, because of what they would be required to give up in return.

However, both sides recognize most guys (especially rookies and those near the roster bubble) need as many “full-speed” reps as possible, pads or no, in order to put the best product on the field.

At the end of the day, changing things isn’t convenient nor is it in the best interests of those with the power to make the change. Sorry, Florio.

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]]> By: MarkB http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16933 MarkB Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:57:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16933 Horse. Beaten. Dead. Now move on. Horse. Beaten. Dead. Now move on.

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]]> By: TomBradyWoot http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16926 TomBradyWoot Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:20:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16926 Just because there were tussles doesn't mean there were contact. He could've just talked some smack when a RB goes through a big hole and pretends to take it the hole, the DL says something like "You know that if we were in pads I would've dropped you" and it goes back and forth until they're pushing and shoving. Just because there were tussles doesn’t mean there were contact. He could’ve just talked some smack when a RB goes through a big hole and pretends to take it the hole, the DL says something like “You know that if we were in pads I would’ve dropped you” and it goes back and forth until they’re pushing and shoving.

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]]> By: bubba http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16925 bubba Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:16:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16925 Who cares about the contact. As long as there is not pads, and it is not 50% speed, the players probably bring it themselves. These guys are football players. Not pansy assed lawyers. Eheheheheheh. Who cares about the contact. As long as there is not pads, and it is not 50% speed, the players probably bring it themselves. These guys are football players. Not pansy assed lawyers. Eheheheheheh.

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]]> By: SeanMartin http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16911 SeanMartin Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:44:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16911 This is nonsensical. I don't think the chances of contact being involved are greater than 50%. If they were walking through plays and a guy puts his hands up to simulate a block, or moves his feet to circle around a player, I would hope Upshaw wouldn't consider that contact... Odds are Dahl was overexcited and disagreed with Taylor and Patterson on speed/intensity. I don't necessarily think there was contact, atleast contact along the lines of grabbing a player or pushing. This is nonsensical. I don’t think the chances of contact being involved are greater than 50%. If they were walking through plays and a guy puts his hands up to simulate a block, or moves his feet to circle around a player, I would hope Upshaw wouldn’t consider that contact… Odds are Dahl was overexcited and disagreed with Taylor and Patterson on speed/intensity. I don’t necessarily think there was contact, atleast contact along the lines of grabbing a player or pushing.

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]]> By: josereyes0 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16905 josereyes0 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:30:28 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16905 Ok really, you have to stop it. You've beaten this issue to death. We heard you, everyone knows there is contact at camp. Ok really, you have to stop it. You’ve beaten this issue to death. We heard you, everyone knows there is contact at camp.

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]]> By: starman http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16904 starman Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:29:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16904 was Paul Crew at qb? was Paul Crew at qb?

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]]> By: Great Falconi http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16899 Great Falconi Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:19:51 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/17/falcons-mix-things-up-at-minicamp/#comment-16899 Well, maybe Harvey Dahl has a bad habit of saying unseemly things about teammates' mothers? Well, maybe Harvey Dahl has a bad habit of saying unseemly things about teammates’ mothers?

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