The conventional wisdom around the NFL is that no team wants to trade into the first few picks in the draft because of the exorbitant salaries and signing bonuses that top picks receive. But one team might be looking to buck that conventional wisdom.
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the Saints have made informal inquiries about what it would take to acquire the Rams’ first-round pick, No. 2 overall.
The Saints currently own the 10th overall pick, and under the draft trade chart that has been used for the last two decades, the Saints would have to give up a bounty of draft picks to move from No. 10 to No. 2. But some teams are circulating a new trade chart, and on that chart, a trade of the Saints’ first- and second-round picks for the Rams’ first-round pick would appear reasonable, if possibly a little too favorable to the Saints.
If the Saints did make the trade, what would they do with the No. 2 pick? Schefter reports that New Orleans wants one of the draft’s top defensive players, likely LSU defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey or Ohio State defensive end Vernon Gholston.
If the trade doesn’t go through, the Rams could take Dorsey, Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long or possibly pull a surprise and select Arkansas running back Darren McFadden.
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April 16th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
Maybe the Saints would toss in Will Smith if he is that unhappy with his contract, the Rams could use the end, then they could take a tackle or the best defencive player on the board at 10, that might not be too bad of a move.
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April 16th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
It is more then a week before the draft so don’t believe anything you hear regarding trades or wht players a team will take. Everyone is a liar right now. Much like Mike Irvin when he said that crack pipe was his friends.
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April 16th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
While I do not like the idea of trading Will Smith (can’t get rid of your best Defensive player when you are weak on Defense), I do like the idea of trying to get to Dorsey. There is a line where it becomes cost prohibitive to do so but if any player is worth investing the effort to try and move up it is Dorsey.
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April 16th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
I sent Florio a link from 790 radio down in Miami. Schefter was on with Sid today, and he also hinted that the Dolphins could be in discussions. I wonder if the Dolphins would be willing to take less than what the Rams would. Parcells and Sparano has some security, whereas Linehan and Co. may be on the line. The Rams need to hit, and that might be too far down. The Dolphins probably are more open-minded. Payton and Parcells also have a history.
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April 16th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
I love the idea because we all (saints fans) seem to agree DT is our glaring need, but there’s no way we give up will smith…he’s the best player on our defense. And Gholston is completely ludicrous. We do not need him at all unless we are dealing smith or grant. We will trade up for dorsey/ellis or trade back and take the best player available…that is loomis’ (GM) way. I have been hearing NE at 7 so this is definitely news to me…and good news if it’s true. I hate LSU but Geaux Saints!!!!!
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April 16th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
I love the idea of my Saints getting the best defender in this draft. But what if we offered the Bungles our 1st for Ocho??
Would that team not score 40 a game?
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April 16th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Why in the world would the Rams select McFadden if they have Jackson?
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April 16th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
A better pass rush will help there corners more than one good DB
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April 16th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Mickey Loomis (GM of the Saints) and Jim Haslett (fmr coach of the saints and D coordinator of the rams) also have a lot of GOOD history. Bottom line, no way on Gholston and no way on trading Smith…that being said, Ellis/Dorsey are the only real options for us besides trading back for more picks and Jerod Mayo/best CB still there.
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April 16th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
What is that link toonsterwu?
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April 16th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Maybe Sean Payton is having a Ditka flashback and is ready to give up all his picks for 1 guy and then they can go 3-13 too.
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April 16th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Aren’t the Saints stacked at DE? Don’t think Gholston would be a target… Dorsey is highly likely, though.
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April 16th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
It would make a lot more sense for the Saints to just try and trade up into the Patriots or Ravens position. The cost would be less, and they could still land either Sedrick Ellis or Keith Rivers. Baltimore could be looking to trade down if Matt Ryan is off the board, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see the Patriots look to slide down the board a bit. There’s a chance that all the defensive players the Saints want/need, could be off the board when the Saints pick at ten. It doesn’t surprise me that they’re looking to move out of that spot.
I’d expect the Saints to go after Glenn Dorsey should they get the second pick.
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April 16th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
The funny thing is, McFadden would be perfect for the Saints. Drafting him would really cripple the organization, but still.
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April 16th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Can’t imagine the Rams would do this unless they’re set on drafting an O-Lineman (for Jelly Brain Bulger) and don’t see a big difference between Jake Long and Chris Williams/Branden Albert/Ryan Clady. Of course, this assumes Miami doesn’t take Jake Long.
If they go O-Line, this trade would make a lot of sense.
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April 16th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
I think the Saints are ideally looking at trading up from 5-7 to snag Ellis. I think they are looking into #2 to see what it would take, and maybe to lower the price tag of trading up for 5-7.
I also don’t see the Saints packaging the 1 & 2 this year. I really think the Shockey trade will go through for our 2nd round pick.
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April 16th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
A 1 and 2 doesn’t seem worth not getting one if not the top guy on the Rams board. We are still enough under the cap that i don’t see money being an issue, so to me the Saints would have to blow us out of the water to get to 2. Jackson is in the last year of his deal, hopefully the roomers about going after McFadden are just ment to jump start contract talks.
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April 16th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
I would be shocked if the Saints went after Dorsey rather than Ellis. Their D-Line coach, Ed Orgeron, loves his former USC recruits, Ellis and Rivers. Regardless, Coach O did put Dorsey to work (I can’t remember if it was the Combine or Pro Day) and Dorsey didn’t crack. Man, I cannot wait until draft day!
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April 17th, 2008 at 1:47 am
I’d be circulating that trade chart around, too. That is.. if I wanted to trade up and rape a team. 19th and 20th pick overall can net the #1 overall pick? HELLS YES I’M SURE ALL SMART GMs WOULD DO THAT!
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April 17th, 2008 at 9:41 am
If the Rams draft McFadden without dealing Jackson on the same day I am officially done with this team. We need help in the trenches in the WORST way. Thankfully most of what is said right before the draft is bullsh*t.
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April 17th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Isn’t the Saints defense crappy enough to give them many options on defensive position to draft? Stay put and get multiple selections instead of gambling on one DT.
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