Comments on: CONCERNS SWIRL AROUND JACKSON http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:06:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Real Football Fan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15325 Real Football Fan Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:45:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15325 @ brasho, Remember Anthony carter from the 80's Vikings? He and Jackson are similar in size and stature. things have only gotten easier for receivers as far as contact over the past 20 yearss. Comparing him to Green is a bit absurd. don't confuse speed with quickness because Jackson has both whereas green only was fast. the size should be a concern because he will be getting hit by guys 20-40 pounds heavier in the secondary and 60-75 pounds heavier from the LB corp. However, if you can play, it always shows up on gameday, and he is the only guy with the type of playmaking ability that warrants a 1st round pick in this draft in my opinion. It would be ideal if he were 6' and 200 pounds with the same ability, but that's why he's not a top 5 pick, isn't it? @ brasho,

Remember Anthony carter from the 80’s Vikings? He and Jackson are similar in size and stature. things have only gotten easier for receivers as far as contact over the past 20 yearss. Comparing him to Green is a bit absurd. don’t confuse speed with quickness because Jackson has both whereas green only was fast. the size should be a concern because he will be getting hit by guys 20-40 pounds heavier in the secondary and 60-75 pounds heavier from the LB corp. However, if you can play, it always shows up on gameday, and he is the only guy with the type of playmaking ability that warrants a 1st round pick in this draft in my opinion. It would be ideal if he were 6′ and 200 pounds with the same ability, but that’s why he’s not a top 5 pick, isn’t it?

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]]> By: robrocker http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15126 robrocker Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:08:28 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15126 DeSean didn't dominate this season because his quarterback, Nate Longshore, had a bone chip in his ankle for most of the season, and was terrible with his accuracy because he couldn't step into his throws.. As for why DeSean's teammates outperformed him, he's often double and triple teamed. One man's loss is another man's gain. DeSean didn’t dominate this season because his quarterback, Nate Longshore, had a bone chip in his ankle for most of the season, and was terrible with his accuracy because he couldn’t step into his throws..

As for why DeSean’s teammates outperformed him, he’s often double and triple teamed. One man’s loss is another man’s gain.

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]]> By: brasho http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15112 brasho Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:01:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15112 Jackson is not too short guys, he's too small. He actually lost 2 lbs between the combine and pro day and weighed in at a mere 167. Quick, name one WR that is pretty good and weighs less than 185! you can't do it. This guy another Jacquez Green, just not quite as fast. If Jackson is so good then why didn't he dominate this past season? Lavelle Hawkins outperformed him playing on the other side and Cal's 3rd WR Robert Jordan almost peformed as well. This guy is not a 1st rounder. Jackson is not too short guys, he’s too small. He actually lost 2 lbs between the combine and pro day and weighed in at a mere 167. Quick, name one WR that is pretty good and weighs less than 185! you can’t do it. This guy another Jacquez Green, just not quite as fast. If Jackson is so good then why didn’t he dominate this past season? Lavelle Hawkins outperformed him playing on the other side and Cal’s 3rd WR Robert Jordan almost peformed as well. This guy is not a 1st rounder.

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]]> By: MidnightGreenOmen555 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15087 MidnightGreenOmen555 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:39:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15087 I just don't get where this guy is coming from calling Jackson lazy and all. The kid only saught out the greatest NFL wide receiver of all time (Jerry Rice) to help him prepare for the NFL. If that's not doing your best to prepare i dont know what is? I just don’t get where this guy is coming from calling Jackson lazy and all. The kid only saught out the greatest NFL wide receiver of all time (Jerry Rice) to help him prepare for the NFL. If that’s not doing your best to prepare i dont know what is?

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]]> By: Tyler81 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15053 Tyler81 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:03:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15053 Um im getting tired of hearing that hes too short Steve Smith is 5'11 umm MDJ is 5'6 and alot of WRS are 6'0 WOW 2 inches Um im getting tired of hearing that hes too short Steve Smith is 5′11 umm MDJ is 5′6 and alot of WRS are 6′0 WOW 2 inches

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]]> By: yahmpy http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15052 yahmpy Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:32:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15052 Whatever. Everybody is an expert while in anonymity. I just want the draft to get here already. If everybody is an expert, how did Adrian Peterson go seventh again last year? The NFL Draft has been and always will be an inexact science. Speculating on the pros and cons is just all talk until the player puts on an NFL jersey, plain and simple. Whatever. Everybody is an expert while in anonymity.

I just want the draft to get here already. If everybody is an expert, how did Adrian Peterson go seventh again last year?

The NFL Draft has been and always will be an inexact science. Speculating on the pros and cons is just all talk until the player puts on an NFL jersey, plain and simple.

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]]> By: Kotite http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15045 Kotite Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:06:33 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15045 Drafting receivers early is almost as risky as drafting a QB. If I'm a GM and I know a guy has a poor work ethic, I hafta drop him a few notches on my draft board. And if Santana Moss towers over you, I gotta scrutinize you even further. Drafting receivers early is almost as risky as drafting a QB. If I’m a GM and I know a guy has a poor work ethic, I hafta drop him a few notches on my draft board. And if Santana Moss towers over you, I gotta scrutinize you even further.

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]]> By: ponzio http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15043 ponzio Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:01:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15043 as an Eagles fan ... pass. i can find fast midgets in the 5th or 6th round. i need a killer safety [ala Dawk] and a stud DE. as an Eagles fan … pass.

i can find fast midgets in the 5th or 6th round. i need a killer safety [ala Dawk] and a stud DE.

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]]> By: Real Football Fan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15042 Real Football Fan Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:57:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15042 Lack of work ethic is always a concern with a receiver prospect, just like QB. It's considered the hardest position to learn outside of quarterback. He's often compared to Steve Smith who is the epitome of a hard worker with a chip on his shoulder, which often equates to him playing much larger than his body frame lends him. that being said, I think he's the only receiver that will be significant from the early rounds of this draft because of his combo of speed and quickness. Lack of work ethic is always a concern with a receiver prospect, just like QB. It’s considered the hardest position to learn outside of quarterback. He’s often compared to Steve Smith who is the epitome of a hard worker with a chip on his shoulder, which often equates to him playing much larger than his body frame lends him.

that being said, I think he’s the only receiver that will be significant from the early rounds of this draft because of his combo of speed and quickness.

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]]> By: Henry Plainview http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15041 Henry Plainview Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:56:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15041 Stephen Jackson, Maurice Jones-Drew are ok and they came from the Pac-10 Stephen Jackson, Maurice Jones-Drew are ok and they came from the Pac-10

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]]> By: robrocker http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15040 robrocker Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:54:31 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15040 Wow, I remember last year in the run up to the draft, DeSean's Jackson's former teammate, Marshawn Lynch, was called by many "anonymous" scouts as selfish, not a team player, a street thug who was only successful because he ran against Pac 10 defenses. Marshawn Lynch has never been arrested, charged with a crime or even seen the inside of a courtroom in his life, but that didn't stop ProFootballTalk last year of perpetuating the myth -- from these "anonymous " reports -- that Lynch had a criminal charge. One year later Lynch not only did good in Buffalo, but he was named the team's MVP and seen as an ambassador to the city. He also won NFL Rookie of the Week several times. Now we're seeing it all over again with DeSean Jackson -- all these rumors, innuendo, trying to stir the pot in hopes that he'll drop. Don't read everything you believe. Wow, I remember last year in the run up to the draft, DeSean’s Jackson’s former teammate, Marshawn Lynch, was called by many “anonymous” scouts as selfish, not a team player, a street thug who was only successful because he ran against Pac 10 defenses.

Marshawn Lynch has never been arrested, charged with a crime or even seen the inside of a courtroom in his life, but that didn’t stop ProFootballTalk last year of perpetuating the myth — from these “anonymous ” reports — that Lynch had a criminal charge.

One year later Lynch not only did good in Buffalo, but he was named the team’s MVP and seen as an ambassador to the city. He also won NFL Rookie of the Week several times.

Now we’re seeing it all over again with DeSean Jackson — all these rumors, innuendo, trying to stir the pot in hopes that he’ll drop.

Don’t read everything you believe.

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]]> By: bgman http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15028 bgman Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:26:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15028 And does that veteran scout who is talking to NFL.com about Jackson's lack of drive and effort work for a team that is secretly hoping for him to drop into the 2nd round so they can draft him? There's always some misdirection and stories being planted or exaggerated by teams hoping to scare off other teams so players fall into their laps. Don't take any scout's evaluation and/or concerns about anyone too seriously for the next couple of weeks. And does that veteran scout who is talking to NFL.com about Jackson’s lack of drive and effort work for a team that is secretly hoping for him to drop into the 2nd round so they can draft him?

There’s always some misdirection and stories being planted or exaggerated by teams hoping to scare off other teams so players fall into their laps. Don’t take any scout’s evaluation and/or concerns about anyone too seriously for the next couple of weeks.

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]]> By: screaming sheep http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15024 screaming sheep Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:08:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15024 We see how another Pac 10 receiver who doesn't work hard translated to the NFL last year. Just look at Dwayne Jarrett. We see how another Pac 10 receiver who doesn’t work hard translated to the NFL last year. Just look at Dwayne Jarrett.

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]]> By: MidnightGreenOmen555 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15018 MidnightGreenOmen555 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:53:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15018 Nice A.I. usage ChrisJNelson. I really like this guy(DeSean Jackson), and whether my team (The Eagles) gets him in the first or the second I just hope that they get him. Can you name me a top wide out who doesn't play around during practice? All good wide receivers are premadannos and they all perform at a top level come game day. The fact that he went last during the combine doesn't effect my opinion of him one bit, maybe he wanted to see how everyone else did so he could top it? And if we're still talking about size with this kid... allow me to quote a very wise, very Green, and not to mention very small man "Size Matter's Not!" Nice A.I. usage ChrisJNelson. I really like this guy(DeSean Jackson), and whether my team (The Eagles) gets him in the first or the second I just hope that they get him. Can you name me a top wide out who doesn’t play around during practice? All good wide receivers are premadannos and they all perform at a top level come game day. The fact that he went last during the combine doesn’t effect my opinion of him one bit, maybe he wanted to see how everyone else did so he could top it? And if we’re still talking about size with this kid… allow me to quote a very wise, very Green, and not to mention very small man “Size Matter’s Not!”

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]]> By: snb8818 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15017 snb8818 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:49:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15017 so if mcfadden is a bust does this post get made next year implying the SEC is weak? Doubtful. so if mcfadden is a bust does this post get made next year implying the SEC is weak? Doubtful.

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]]> By: brotherjive http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15016 brotherjive Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:46:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15016 he simply needs to go to a team with a good supporting cast of leaders like the eagles, skins, giants, etc. he simply needs to go to a team with a good supporting cast of leaders like the eagles, skins, giants, etc.

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]]> By: ChrisJNelson http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15014 ChrisJNelson Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:22:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/13/concerns-swirl-around-jackson/#comment-15014 The fact he doesn't hustle during workouts doesn't mean he won't show up on game day. "Practice? We're talking about practice?" The fact he doesn’t hustle during workouts doesn’t mean he won’t show up on game day.

“Practice? We’re talking about practice?”

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