Comments on: COOK TRYING TO SAVE HIS PAYDAY? http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:29:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: vancityking http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12256 vancityking Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:03:19 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12256 how much speculation was there in the years following barry saunders retirement that he would come out of retirement to break paytons records? yet he never did. that's all this is. how much speculation was there in the years following barry saunders retirement that he would come out of retirement to break paytons records? yet he never did. that’s all this is.

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]]> By: jyernberg http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12202 jyernberg Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:30:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12202 i am not suprised one bit that this is coming up. and i wont be suprised when this goes away, and then comes up again. lets get one thing straight-brett favre will never play for another NFL team. brett made his name as a packer, collected all his records and accolations as one too. i would not be suprised in the least if either one of stingrays' scenarios came true. although i think the first(rogers goes down, and favre swoops in to save the day) is more likely, its easy to argue the second. i am sure favre will go through the same "did i make the right decision" trip that all, or at least most freshly retirees go through. as a packer fan i woud love to see brett pull on the superman cape/#4 anytime he feels like it. but i have come to terms with the fact that it is 99% out of the question.....or is it??? i am not suprised one bit that this is coming up. and i wont be suprised when this goes away, and then comes up again. lets get one thing straight-brett favre will never play for another NFL team. brett made his name as a packer, collected all his records and accolations as one too. i would not be suprised in the least if either one of stingrays’ scenarios came true. although i think the first(rogers goes down, and favre swoops in to save the day) is more likely, its easy to argue the second. i am sure favre will go through the same “did i make the right decision” trip that all, or at least most freshly retirees go through. as a packer fan i woud love to see brett pull on the superman cape/#4 anytime he feels like it. but i have come to terms with the fact that it is 99% out of the question…..or is it???

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]]> By: StingRay http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12092 StingRay Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:37:37 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12092 The LA times? Plz! Let's say Brett really does still want to play, does indeed hate Thompson, would love to spite him, and does not relish the mind crushing expectations and pressure that would come with being a Packer next year. So here is my speculation on what would happen: 1. He would crush the hearts of the Packer faithful who revere him by actually requesting a trade. 2. Thompson in retaliation would refuse to trade him. "Play for us or you'll play for nobody"! EVERYBODY LOSES! His entire legacy turns to Limberger. I really don't think it's very likely it would happen. Although I basically agree with the Barry Sanders analogy staying un-retired for now adds more possibilities. Here are some scenarios: 1. The Pack is in contention in Dec and Rogers goes down. With no capable backup on the roster, who rides in and saves the day? 2. The Pack falters this year with Rogers and misses the playoffs. Favre takes a year off and comes back in 09 with a much more seasoned and equally talented team. I think these are more likely. The LA times? Plz!

Let’s say Brett really does still want to play, does indeed hate Thompson, would love to spite him, and does not relish the mind crushing expectations and pressure that would come with being a Packer next year. So here is my speculation on what would happen:

1. He would crush the hearts of the Packer faithful who revere him by actually requesting a trade.

2. Thompson in retaliation would refuse to trade him. “Play for us or you’ll play for nobody”!

EVERYBODY LOSES! His entire legacy turns to Limberger. I really don’t think it’s very likely it would happen.

Although I basically agree with the Barry Sanders analogy staying un-retired for now adds more possibilities. Here are some scenarios:

1. The Pack is in contention in Dec and Rogers goes down. With no capable backup on the roster, who rides in and saves the day?

2. The Pack falters this year with Rogers and misses the playoffs. Favre takes a year off and comes back in 09 with a much more seasoned and equally talented team.

I think these are more likely.

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]]> By: bgman http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12084 bgman Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:42:49 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12084 Maybe the Packers can trade him to the QB-needy Falcons. Then Favre will retire before playing game. That way the Packers can screw over the Falcons twice in Brett Favre trades. Maybe the Packers can trade him to the QB-needy Falcons. Then Favre will retire before playing game. That way the Packers can screw over the Falcons twice in Brett Favre trades.

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]]> By: rasalas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12067 rasalas Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:52:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12067 Why would Favre unretire to play for a losing team (assuming a trade happens), when the Packers were so close? That makes no sense whatsoever. Why would Favre unretire to play for a losing team (assuming a trade happens), when the Packers were so close? That makes no sense whatsoever.

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]]> By: MIBucs1982 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12063 MIBucs1982 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:36:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12063 Is the off season really that boring that we have to keep talking about something that isn't even relevant anymore? Favre isn't un-retiring. He hasn't filed his paperwork yet...big frickin' deal! He's got till June to do it! And not to contradict our gracious host, Mr. Florio, but as was stated at Favre's conference, the only way he could come back for another year, prove anything to him or anyone else, and make the most out of that year would be to win a Super Bowl. It doesn't matter which team he's on, he has to win a Super Bowl to make the comeback even worthwhile. Therefore, your whole concept of his agent enticing Favre to come back to play for a team that isn't a Super Bowl contender is ridiculous and makes no sense based on what's been said by Favre. To even suggest that means that Favre is saying one thing and going to do another. And, since when is Favre in the business of saying one thing and doing another? He's not. Never has been. Sure...the media likes to speculate that he was going to retire or wasn't going to retire the past couple years. But he never said "I'm retiring" and then came back later and changed his mind. He always said, "I haven't made up my mind yet." And when he did, he played ball. I can't stand how people are so thick-headed that they can't seem to grasp that concept. He says he's not coming back and we should all take the man at his word. He hasn't lied to his fans yet! Is the off season really that boring that we have to keep talking about something that isn’t even relevant anymore?

Favre isn’t un-retiring. He hasn’t filed his paperwork yet…big frickin’ deal! He’s got till June to do it!

And not to contradict our gracious host, Mr. Florio, but as was stated at Favre’s conference, the only way he could come back for another year, prove anything to him or anyone else, and make the most out of that year would be to win a Super Bowl. It doesn’t matter which team he’s on, he has to win a Super Bowl to make the comeback even worthwhile. Therefore, your whole concept of his agent enticing Favre to come back to play for a team that isn’t a Super Bowl contender is ridiculous and makes no sense based on what’s been said by Favre. To even suggest that means that Favre is saying one thing and going to do another. And, since when is Favre in the business of saying one thing and doing another? He’s not. Never has been.

Sure…the media likes to speculate that he was going to retire or wasn’t going to retire the past couple years. But he never said “I’m retiring” and then came back later and changed his mind. He always said, “I haven’t made up my mind yet.” And when he did, he played ball. I can’t stand how people are so thick-headed that they can’t seem to grasp that concept. He says he’s not coming back and we should all take the man at his word. He hasn’t lied to his fans yet!

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]]> By: BBrophy1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12062 BBrophy1 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:26:51 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12062 I can't see Favre coming back immediately after that emotional goodbye. The only scenario I would see is if a team that looks to be going to the playoffs loses their QB to an injury, it might intrigue him to play half a season on a team without the emotional attachments, weithout having to go to training camp and set an example for the younger guys, play in meaningless preseason games etc. Go to a veteran team on the cusp of winning that loses their QB and he might be talked into returning. Otherwise he looks like he was faking his tearful goodbye amd loses his deity status in Green Bay I can’t see Favre coming back immediately after that emotional goodbye. The only scenario I would see is if a team that looks to be going to the playoffs loses their QB to an injury, it might intrigue him to play half a season on a team without the emotional attachments, weithout having to go to training camp and set an example for the younger guys, play in meaningless preseason games etc. Go to a veteran team on the cusp of winning that loses their QB and he might be talked into returning. Otherwise he looks like he was faking his tearful goodbye amd loses his deity status in Green Bay

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]]> By: KY http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12055 KY Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:56:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12055 What about Tampa adding a 6th QB? Gruden seems to love QBs on Medicare. What about Tampa adding a 6th QB? Gruden seems to love QBs on Medicare.

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]]> By: brian_21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12054 brian_21 Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:55:21 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12054 The decision to retire at this point made very little sense to me. And if Brett Favre had any inkling at all that he wanted to play more, he should have kept going. Physically (and I will even argue mentally, though obviously I can't get into Favre's head), he was still well above average -- and the Green Bay Packers are a Super Bowl contender (well, maybe they "were" contenders and now they are not, but unfortunately, as a Chicago Bears fan, my guess is that Aaron Rodgers is very good). But here's what bothers me. Not that Bus Cook tries to manipulate things to get $$$; lots of individuals do that. I just think it would be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (did I make that clear enough?) awkward for Favre to be crying like a baby, genuinely, and having an uber-long press conference, for it to be all for naught. The decision to retire at this point made very little sense to me. And if Brett Favre had any inkling at all that he wanted to play more, he should have kept going. Physically (and I will even argue mentally, though obviously I can’t get into Favre’s head), he was still well above average — and the Green Bay Packers are a Super Bowl contender (well, maybe they “were” contenders and now they are not, but unfortunately, as a Chicago Bears fan, my guess is that Aaron Rodgers is very good).

But here’s what bothers me. Not that Bus Cook tries to manipulate things to get $$$; lots of individuals do that. I just think it would be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (did I make that clear enough?) awkward for Favre to be crying like a baby, genuinely, and having an uber-long press conference, for it to be all for naught.

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]]> By: LiveNBreath Football http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12053 LiveNBreath Football Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:50:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12053 There is just one problem with this scenario. If Bret unretires, he is still a Packer. To go to another team, the Packers would have to agree to trade him. After all the hoopla and nice things and plans for honoring the little baby, I don't see the Pack agreeing to trade him. They do not want to feel used. It would be a case of either play back up for the Packers or stay unretired. There is just one problem with this scenario. If Bret unretires, he is still a Packer. To go to another team, the Packers would have to agree to trade him. After all the hoopla and nice things and plans for honoring the little baby, I don’t see the Pack agreeing to trade him. They do not want to feel used. It would be a case of either play back up for the Packers or stay unretired.

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]]> By: Miami_Mike http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12046 Miami_Mike Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:25:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/03/cook-trying-to-save-his-payday/#comment-12046 I'd take Brett in a heart beat I’d take Brett in a heart beat

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