Comments on: RAMS DIDN’T HAVE A WALK-THROUGH? http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:42:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: CapsLockKey http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11252 CapsLockKey Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:07:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11252 "I am of the opinion the only reason the pats were taping the jets so blatantly was to fall on the sword in week 1 and blow the whole practice out of the water without pointing fingers and naming names." Well that's definitely a new spin on it. Real logical too. I'm sure BB was just itching to take the fall for the rest of the league. He's a big fan of talking to the media already, and I'm sure he had half a million bucks lying around that he felt he needed to just throw away. “I am of the opinion the only reason the pats were taping the jets so blatantly was to fall on the sword in week 1 and blow the whole practice out of the water without pointing fingers and naming names.”

Well that’s definitely a new spin on it. Real logical too. I’m sure BB was just itching to take the fall for the rest of the league. He’s a big fan of talking to the media already, and I’m sure he had half a million bucks lying around that he felt he needed to just throw away.

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]]> By: Rob0769 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11195 Rob0769 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:24:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11195 lasher1674, Why would Walsh go down this path in the first place? Perhaps he is a bitter ex-employee who had aspirations of a fantastic career in the NFL and blames the Patriots that his life has turned out to be less than stellar. Being an assistant golf pro making $30k a year is a far way away from being the Director of Scouting. The guy has been known to embellish his resume. He has claimed to be an area scout for the Patriots and surmised fired because of the region he was scouting. The Patriots claim he was never a scout and only a gopher for the scouting department and was fired for secretly taping conversations with Pioli. I am convinced Walsh has nothing of real value. At best, he enjoyed the attention he was getting from the press and stupidily said he had something and he would spill his guts if he had indemedity and got in too deep or he thought tapes of taping defensive signals of other games were actual damning evidence. The Boston Globe did a piece on Walsh a few weeks back that got information from people from the Patriots and not having anything to do with the Patriots that painted Walsh in a pretty bad light. It could be Patriots spin or Walsh could just be a shady character. If Walsh is lying about having anything, he would be far from the first time that a person came forward and claimed he/she had damning evidence against a public figure yet had nothing. I don't get why you would have such a hard time figuring out Walsh's motive if he is lying. lasher1674,

Why would Walsh go down this path in the first place? Perhaps he is a bitter ex-employee who had aspirations of a fantastic career in the NFL and blames the Patriots that his life has turned out to be less than stellar. Being an assistant golf pro making $30k a year is a far way away from being the Director of Scouting.

The guy has been known to embellish his resume. He has claimed to be an area scout for the Patriots and surmised fired because of the region he was scouting. The Patriots claim he was never a scout and only a gopher for the scouting department and was fired for secretly taping conversations with Pioli.

I am convinced Walsh has nothing of real value. At best, he enjoyed the attention he was getting from the press and stupidily said he had something and he would spill his guts if he had indemedity and got in too deep or he thought tapes of taping defensive signals of other games were actual damning evidence.

The Boston Globe did a piece on Walsh a few weeks back that got information from people from the Patriots and not having anything to do with the Patriots that painted Walsh in a pretty bad light. It could be Patriots spin or Walsh could just be a shady character. If Walsh is lying about having anything, he would be far from the first time that a person came forward and claimed he/she had damning evidence against a public figure yet had nothing.

I don’t get why you would have such a hard time figuring out Walsh’s motive if he is lying.

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]]> By: Honey Nut Florios http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11151 Honey Nut Florios Wed, 02 Apr 2008 05:01:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11151 What about the other sixteen four-quarter-walkthroughs that were taped that year? Are we all over the Pats for watching that film? Dont they contain a much deeper look into how the offense was run? Im pretty sure teams dont drastically change who they are and how they run things after doing them one way the whole season. Tweaks yes, schemes no. What about the other sixteen four-quarter-walkthroughs that were taped that year? Are we all over the Pats for watching that film? Dont they contain a much deeper look into how the offense was run? Im pretty sure teams dont drastically change who they are and how they run things after doing them one way the whole season. Tweaks yes, schemes no.

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]]> By: anthonyf http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11150 anthonyf Wed, 02 Apr 2008 05:01:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11150 The whole thing was a distraction because walsh wa bitter he wasnt going to get another super bowl ring. The whole thing was a distraction because walsh wa bitter he wasnt going to get another super bowl ring.

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]]> By: lasher1674 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11138 lasher1674 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:24:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11138 Dude that wrote this sure as hell better hope that Walsh doesn't have the tape he claims that he has of the walkthrough, otherwise, he just commited career suicide. My gut says Walsh has/had something, but seems that someone has made it worth his while (money, fear, etc.) to not come forward. Otherwise, I have real difficulty in understanding his (Walsh) motivation to begin down this path in the first place. As for the Martz bashing here in this forum, Martz himself has said that he does not believe that if the Pats had the tape of the walkthrough that it materially changed the outcome of the game. He has stated however, that he believes if the Pats did tape the walkthrough, thereby cheating, they should be punished. Dude is paranoid, but even he realizes the act of taping the walkthrough didn't lose the Rams the game. Dude that wrote this sure as hell better hope that Walsh doesn’t have the tape he claims that he has of the walkthrough, otherwise, he just commited career suicide.

My gut says Walsh has/had something, but seems that someone has made it worth his while (money, fear, etc.) to not come forward. Otherwise, I have real difficulty in understanding his (Walsh) motivation to begin down this path in the first place.

As for the Martz bashing here in this forum, Martz himself has said that he does not believe that if the Pats had the tape of the walkthrough that it materially changed the outcome of the game. He has stated however, that he believes if the Pats did tape the walkthrough, thereby cheating, they should be punished. Dude is paranoid, but even he realizes the act of taping the walkthrough didn’t lose the Rams the game.

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]]> By: Rob0769 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11129 Rob0769 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:45:17 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11129 Of course Martz would want to find a way to deflect the loss from his stupid gameplan of not trying to run Marshall Faulk more. But even he and Kurt Warner said the walkthrough wasn't much more than a handful of goalline plays. They didn't say it was much more than Czarnecki claims. Of course Martz would want to find a way to deflect the loss from his stupid gameplan of not trying to run Marshall Faulk more. But even he and Kurt Warner said the walkthrough wasn’t much more than a handful of goalline plays. They didn’t say it was much more than Czarnecki claims.

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]]> By: javajay77 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11128 javajay77 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:44:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11128 Personally, I am pleased that video taping is finally being mentioned as possibly coming from another team other than the "evil" patriots - meaning martz was nervous about the saints. The media coverage of this has painted it as something that was never thought of or performed by any other team in the league - though its painfully obvious its something that ran/runs rampant - I am of the opinion the only reason the pats were taping the jets so blatantly was to fall on the sword in week 1 and blow the whole practice out of the water without pointing fingers and naming names. Get the league to focus its attention on it. Think about it...tape the jets?? Who wants to watch that train wreck anymore than they have to? Personally, I am pleased that video taping is finally being mentioned as possibly coming from another team other than the “evil” patriots - meaning martz was nervous about the saints.

The media coverage of this has painted it as something that was never thought of or performed by any other team in the league - though its painfully obvious its something that ran/runs rampant - I am of the opinion the only reason the pats were taping the jets so blatantly was to fall on the sword in week 1 and blow the whole practice out of the water without pointing fingers and naming names. Get the league to focus its attention on it. Think about it…tape the jets?? Who wants to watch that train wreck anymore than they have to?

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]]> By: besfeel http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11127 besfeel Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:34:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11127 i guess martz forgot they didn't have a walk-thru that day cause he sure seemed eager, about a month or two back, to know if a taping of a non-existent evident occured...LOL i guess martz forgot they didn’t have a walk-thru that day cause he sure
seemed eager, about a month or two back, to know if a taping of a non-existent evident occured…LOL

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]]> By: Rob0769 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11125 Rob0769 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:32:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11125 This whole walkthrough story has been an unsubstaintiated rumor for years. Contrary to popular belief, this thing hasn't just popped up after Spygate. In seven years, not one shred of evidence has surfaced substantiating this rumor. Even Matt Walsh nor his attorney have ever said they have proof that he taped the walkthrough. No one even knows if Walsh claims he taped the walkthrough. People just assuume he did or he claims he did. There is more evidence to prove the existence of Bigfoot. I do think it is good that the Patriots and the league are going on the offensive trying to force Walsh to show his hand. Why else have Goodell, Belichick, and Kraft appeared all over the place saying there is nothing legally holding him back and challenging that there is nothing to reveal. It is clear they are tired of Levy and Specter using the possibility of some dirt without ever revealing it to tarnish the league and the Patriots. The league and Patriots obviously welcome Walsh to speak at this point. It time for Walsh and his attorney to stop asking for blank protection which would cover lies and unsubstatiated claims and reveal what he has. I know the haters think the league and Patriots are trying to squash Walsh, but based on the last two days that couldn't be farther from the truth. They are daring him to come forward. This whole walkthrough story has been an unsubstaintiated rumor for years. Contrary to popular belief, this thing hasn’t just popped up after Spygate.

In seven years, not one shred of evidence has surfaced substantiating this rumor. Even Matt Walsh nor his attorney have ever said they have proof that he taped the walkthrough. No one even knows if Walsh claims he taped the walkthrough. People just assuume he did or he claims he did. There is more evidence to prove the existence of Bigfoot.

I do think it is good that the Patriots and the league are going on the offensive trying to force Walsh to show his hand. Why else have Goodell, Belichick, and Kraft appeared all over the place saying there is nothing legally holding him back and challenging that there is nothing to reveal. It is clear they are tired of Levy and Specter using the possibility of some dirt without ever revealing it to tarnish the league and the Patriots.

The league and Patriots obviously welcome Walsh to speak at this point. It time for Walsh and his attorney to stop asking for blank protection which would cover lies and unsubstatiated claims and reveal what he has.

I know the haters think the league and Patriots are trying to squash Walsh, but based on the last two days that couldn’t be farther from the truth. They are daring him to come forward.

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]]> By: rkingndayton http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11122 rkingndayton Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:47:10 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11122 Wow, Czarnecki is a huge Colts fan. Why would he come to NE's rescue? Wow, Czarnecki is a huge Colts fan. Why would he come to NE’s rescue?

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]]> By: NonYahooHotmailAcct http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11120 NonYahooHotmailAcct Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:43:23 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11120 What if this whole walkthrough story was derived with one purpose: To motivate the Giants and give the Pats something to worry about What if this whole walkthrough story was derived with one purpose: To motivate the Giants and give the Pats something to worry about

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]]> By: KY http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11116 KY Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:22:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11116 Does John Czarnecki have a video proving there was no walk-through? Does John Czarnecki have a video proving there was no walk-through?

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]]> By: Norseman http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11114 Norseman Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:20:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11114 '...We’re a bit confused...' '...of FOXSports.com...' <--- That's why you're confused. ‘…We’re a bit confused…’

‘…of FOXSports.com…’ <— That’s why you’re confused.

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]]> By: bradtor777 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11111 bradtor777 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:16:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/01/rams-didnt-have-a-walk-through/#comment-11111 Walsh has nothing. He's been freed from legal liability, and he has nothing to offer. Walsh has nothing. He’s been freed from legal liability, and he has nothing to offer.

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