Comments on: COWBOYS UP THE ANTE FOR PACMAN?

Comments on: COWBOYS UP THE ANTE FOR PACMAN? http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:45:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-10024 Vox Veritas Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:41:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-10024 Good gosh, why should the Cowboys take two DBs in the first? They'll be fairly loaded and really flexible is they sign Pacman. You could start Pac and Newman and have Henry play SS or FS next to Hamlin, who can play either position. Maybe you dump Ayodele and convert Roy Williams into a linebacker. And maybe you still get a DB and a Felix Jones with those picks? Both first rounders and a 2nd (call it 15th pick in the second round for argument's sake) = 1870 points. 4th overall is only worth 1800. No way that trade scenario happens. Not with Barber included. Good gosh, why should the Cowboys take two DBs in the first? They’ll be fairly loaded and really flexible is they sign Pacman. You could start Pac and Newman and have Henry play SS or FS next to Hamlin, who can play either position. Maybe you dump Ayodele and convert Roy Williams into a linebacker. And maybe you still get a DB and a Felix Jones with those picks?

Both first rounders and a 2nd (call it 15th pick in the second round for argument’s sake) = 1870 points. 4th overall is only worth 1800. No way that trade scenario happens. Not with Barber included.

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]]> By: SirSuperSouthern http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9936 SirSuperSouthern Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:41:33 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9936 Why don't the 'Boys just wait for Tennessee to cut Pacman instead of trading for him? I mean, if there's no market out there for him, why give up anything for him? Sadly, I think I may know the answer. If Mr Jones wants Pacman, that means he won't be drafting two DBs in the first round like he should. If he trades for Pacman it will be a clear sign to me that he will also trade both first rounders, Marion "the Barbarian" Barber III, and possibly next year's 2nd rounder to Oakland so they can draft McFadden. That kills me because the team had a shot of winning it all last year and instead of moving forward by adding some secondary help it looks like Mr Jones is gonna roll the dice. Here's hoping McFadden is the next coming of a healthy Adrian Peterson *takes shot of Don Julio 1942* Why don’t the ‘Boys just wait for Tennessee to cut Pacman instead of trading for him? I mean, if there’s no market out there for him, why give up anything for him?

Sadly, I think I may know the answer. If Mr Jones wants Pacman, that means he won’t be drafting two DBs in the first round like he should. If he trades for Pacman it will be a clear sign to me that he will also trade both first rounders, Marion “the Barbarian” Barber III, and possibly next year’s 2nd rounder to Oakland so they can draft McFadden.

That kills me because the team had a shot of winning it all last year and instead of moving forward by adding some secondary help it looks like Mr Jones is gonna roll the dice. Here’s hoping McFadden is the next coming of a healthy Adrian Peterson *takes shot of Don Julio 1942*

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]]> By: mswens23 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9915 mswens23 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:03:52 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9915 I'm surprised pac doesn't want to play for the giants....i mean they have "Scores"!! I’m surprised pac doesn’t want to play for the giants….i mean they have “Scores”!!

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]]> By: Yossarian http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9903 Yossarian Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:32:03 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9903 If Dallas can keep him in line, then he'll turn out to be a steal no matter what pick they give Tennessee. However, the guy was/is/and will forever be a douche. If Dallas can keep him in line, then he’ll turn out to be a steal no matter what pick they give Tennessee. However, the guy was/is/and will forever be a douche.

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]]> By: Skew http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9890 Skew Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:38:14 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9890 I get the feeling that Jones is either pressuring Goodell to reinstate him, or Jones has been told by Goodell that he will be. I get the feeling that Jones is either pressuring Goodell to reinstate him, or Jones has been told by Goodell that he will be.

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9883 Vox Veritas Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:02:47 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9883 Oh, he's gonna get reinstated if he gets traded to the Cowboys. You can bet on that. Probably before the draft, too. He said on Irvin's show that he doesn't go anywhere without having an off-duty cop with him these days. Besides, hanging out in Dallas with the Pleamaker and whoever, I figure he won't have to go out and find some skanks, the skanks will come to him. Strippers are much more fun at home than at the bar anyway, I'm (almost) sad to confess. Oh, he’s gonna get reinstated if he gets traded to the Cowboys. You can bet on that. Probably before the draft, too. He said on Irvin’s show that he doesn’t go anywhere without having an off-duty cop with him these days. Besides, hanging out in Dallas with the Pleamaker and whoever, I figure he won’t have to go out and find some skanks, the skanks will come to him. Strippers are much more fun at home than at the bar anyway, I’m (almost) sad to confess.

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]]> By: samh http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9881 samh Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:23:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9881 He isn't necessarily worth more than a 7th on talent alone because there's no guarantee he will EVER see the playing field, or that he can stay on it if he returns. He isn’t necessarily worth more than a 7th on talent alone because there’s no guarantee he will EVER see the playing field, or that he can stay on it if he returns.

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]]> By: Vox Veritas http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9877 Vox Veritas Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:04:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9877 A 7th and a player (I figure it's probably Bobby Carpenter) is a better deal for the Cowboys than a 3rd. A 7th and a player (I figure it’s probably Bobby Carpenter) is a better deal for the Cowboys than a 3rd.

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]]> By: dlmcc0202 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9876 dlmcc0202 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:04:19 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9876 It always amazes me how some of these guys in charge play the market so terribly. No one else even wants this guy, and its obvious he can't stay in Tennessee. Why would you INCREASE your offer? It should be the other way around. As a Cowboys fan, I hope this deal never goes through. I can't root for a guy who caused a man to become paralyzed and basically not care It always amazes me how some of these guys in charge play the market so terribly. No one else even wants this guy, and its obvious he can’t stay in Tennessee. Why would you INCREASE your offer? It should be the other way around. As a Cowboys fan, I hope this deal never goes through. I can’t root for a guy who caused a man to become paralyzed and basically not care

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]]> By: eazye http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9872 eazye Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:11:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9872 Pac's a pain in the a$$, and has major issues, but he's worth more than a 7th rounder based on talent. That being said the Titans need to do whatever it takes to get his salary off the books and move on. I heard Vandenbosch on NFL Radio the other day and he said the team is basically done with Jones, which means his value probably goes down, but at least there seems to be a consensus about not having him on the team any longer than necessary. Still we need to get something for him if possible. Pac’s a pain in the a$$, and has major issues, but he’s worth more than a 7th rounder based on talent. That being said the Titans need to do whatever it takes to get his salary off the books and move on.
I heard Vandenbosch on NFL Radio the other day and he said the team is basically done with Jones, which means his value probably goes down, but at least there seems to be a consensus about not having him on the team any longer than necessary. Still we need to get something for him if possible.

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]]> By: bgman http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9869 bgman Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:03:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9869 Cowboys... sweet... pot.... Pacman... Cowboys… sweet… pot…. Pacman…

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]]> By: mrf47 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9861 mrf47 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:15:37 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9861 When are the Cowboys going to try to sign Rae Carruth? When are the Cowboys going to try to sign Rae Carruth?

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]]> By: keleagles http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9860 keleagles Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:41:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9860 PacMan or Jerry? Who is the bigger fool...Hmmmmmm... Maybe Stinko and T.O. should deliberate! PacMan or Jerry? Who is the bigger fool…Hmmmmmm… Maybe Stinko and T.O. should deliberate!

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]]> By: Kotite http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9851 Kotite Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:08:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9851 Jerry Jones may be an egotistical jerk, but he's incredibly shrewd when it comes to his football club. I still don't see this trade going off unless the Titans reconsider their position on including Young Spoaty in the deal. Jerry Jones may be an egotistical jerk, but he’s incredibly shrewd when it comes to his football club. I still don’t see this trade going off unless the Titans reconsider their position on including Young Spoaty in the deal.

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]]> By: stugacz http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9850 stugacz Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:38:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9850 Jerra has to have this guy. The more "newsmakers" (code for d**che bags)he can put on the roster the more Media coverage for his 3 ring circus. Jerra has to have this guy. The more “newsmakers” (code for d**che bags)he can put on the roster the more Media coverage for his 3 ring circus.

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]]> By: LarzJG http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9845 LarzJG Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:35:40 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9845 I don't get this post - offering MORE for a guy who is still not even eligible to play, and a guy that no one else seems to want makes sense to anyone? And from being almost unemployable only a year ago, we are now talking about signing this guy for a long-term deal so no one else grabs him... It looks like a slow offseason in the NFL has so insanely hyped Pacman, and that the Cowboys are buying into every bit of the hype while totally ignoring his flaws. I don’t get this post - offering MORE for a guy who is still not even eligible to play, and a guy that no one else seems to want makes sense to anyone?

And from being almost unemployable only a year ago, we are now talking about signing this guy for a long-term deal so no one else grabs him…

It looks like a slow offseason in the NFL has so insanely hyped Pacman, and that the Cowboys are buying into every bit of the hype while totally ignoring his flaws.

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]]> By: NonYahooHotmailAcct http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9840 NonYahooHotmailAcct Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:50:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9840 and if he makes it rain, he has to give the team advance notice, so they can recover some of the money without even having to ask. and if he makes it rain, he has to give the team advance notice, so they can recover some of the money without even having to ask.

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]]> By: Dan Dizzle http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9837 Dan Dizzle Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:22:15 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9837 What player are they offering? The only surplus we have is LBs. My guess, and I think it's a great one, is that the player is Akin Adoyle. What player are they offering? The only surplus we have is LBs. My guess, and I think it’s a great one, is that the player is Akin Adoyle.

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]]> By: VA_R8DER http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9836 VA_R8DER Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:20:26 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9836 So maybe The Cowboys have "sweetened the pot" for a player that is still suspended from the NFL. If this is the case, can everyone remove Dallas as a possible trade partner to move up in the draft for Darren McFadden? Or is Dallas going to throw April away for a one shot get it done deal? So maybe The Cowboys have “sweetened the pot” for a player that is still suspended from the NFL.

If this is the case, can everyone remove Dallas as a possible trade partner to move up in the draft for Darren McFadden? Or is Dallas going to throw April away for a one shot get it done deal?

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]]> By: BBrophy1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9824 BBrophy1 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:10:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/26/cowboys-up-the-ante-for-pacman/#comment-9824 sweetened the pot? Who are they bidding against?! They shouldn't give up anything more than conditional pick in 2009. It's not like the Titans will hold onto him if the Boys don't cave to their demands. I'd offer only a 7th round pick if he commits another violent crime in 2008, a 6th round pick if he is only charged with drugs in 2008 etc.. sweetened the pot? Who are they bidding against?! They shouldn’t give up anything more than conditional pick in 2009. It’s not like the Titans will hold onto him if the Boys don’t cave to their demands. I’d offer only a 7th round pick if he commits another violent crime in 2008, a 6th round pick if he is only charged with drugs in 2008 etc..

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