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Comments on: THOMPSON IS EXEC OF THE YEAR http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:13:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: fav-rah http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9964 fav-rah Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:32:28 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9964 @Shawshank... who said anything about the weather? i was talking about the fact that the packers were undefeated, at home, in the playoffs, until the falcons came in and beat them. i never once mentioned how cold it was. however, i'm not surprised that favre didn't have a great game in this type of weather. recall the bears game in chicago this past season, more windy than anything, but very cold as well and before the nfc championship vs. the giants, favre said that bears game was the worst weather conditions he's ever played in. as far as the luck i mentioned that the giants had vs. the cowboys, pack, and patriots, just look at how it came down to the last drive for each of those games for the giants to pull out the win. the pieces fell into place for them in each game. if you want to call it skill, go right ahead as that's your opinion, but i call it luck (especially with the giants being a 10-6 team playing a 16-0 team). Got L-U-C-K-Y! @Shawshank… who said anything about the weather? i was talking about the fact that the packers were undefeated, at home, in the playoffs, until the falcons came in and beat them. i never once mentioned how cold it was. however, i’m not surprised that favre didn’t have a great game in this type of weather. recall the bears game in chicago this past season, more windy than anything, but very cold as well and before the nfc championship vs. the giants, favre said that bears game was the worst weather conditions he’s ever played in. as far as the luck i mentioned that the giants had vs. the cowboys, pack, and patriots, just look at how it came down to the last drive for each of those games for the giants to pull out the win. the pieces fell into place for them in each game. if you want to call it skill, go right ahead as that’s your opinion, but i call it luck (especially with the giants being a 10-6 team playing a 16-0 team). Got L-U-C-K-Y!

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]]> By: ShawshankReception http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9758 ShawshankReception Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:25:26 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9758 @fav-rah, 1. The Falcons and Vikings did not beat the Packers in the third coldest game in NFL (recorded) history. The Giants did, and cold weather was supposed to favor the Packers in that game, as it usually is (Frozen Tundra, Mystique of Lambeau Field, etc.). 2. Maybe I'm the only one, but the phrase "string of luck in the playoffs" sounds ridiculous to me. IMO, no team gets to the Super Bowl and beats an undefeated team as a result of a "string of luck." @fav-rah,

1. The Falcons and Vikings did not beat the Packers in the third coldest game in NFL (recorded) history. The Giants did, and cold weather was supposed to favor the Packers in that game, as it usually is (Frozen Tundra, Mystique of Lambeau Field, etc.).

2. Maybe I’m the only one, but the phrase “string of luck in the playoffs” sounds ridiculous to me. IMO, no team gets to the Super Bowl and beats an undefeated team as a result of a “string of luck.”

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]]> By: fav-rah http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9690 fav-rah Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:29:26 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9690 @75jbass... the pack proved much more than favre having football left. oh, newsflash too, he still had football left, even after facing the giants. just because he had 2 INT's doesn't mean he couldn't play anymore. he also threw 2 TD passes while eli threw none in that game (couglin just put him in a better position to manage the game better on that day with the running game the giants had going). favre's had a number of disappointing games to end the season... every player and team does unless they win the super bowl. another newsflash, if the giants would've come in and beat green bay at the "mighty" lambeau (as you call it) before 2002 when atlanta and vick did it, then it would be more of a story, but since then, minnesota has done it too. that mystique hasn't been there for awhile... since holmgren bolted for the coach/gm job in seattle. also, the giants were 3-5 at home this year (0-4 over their last 4 regular season home games); if eli was playing at home in the championship game, no way do the giants win... he couldn't stand the pressure of the n.y. media in that situation. giants had a string of luck in the playoffs that came down to the last minute or O.T. versus dallas, g.b., and n.e. @75jbass… the pack proved much more than favre having football left. oh, newsflash too, he still had football left, even after facing the giants. just because he had 2 INT’s doesn’t mean he couldn’t play anymore. he also threw 2 TD passes while eli threw none in that game (couglin just put him in a better position to manage the game better on that day with the running game the giants had going). favre’s had a number of disappointing games to end the season… every player and team does unless they win the super bowl.

another newsflash, if the giants would’ve come in and beat green bay at the “mighty” lambeau (as you call it) before 2002 when atlanta and vick did it, then it would be more of a story, but since then, minnesota has done it too. that mystique hasn’t been there for awhile… since holmgren bolted for the coach/gm job in seattle. also, the giants were 3-5 at home this year (0-4 over their last 4 regular season home games); if eli was playing at home in the championship game, no way do the giants win… he couldn’t stand the pressure of the n.y. media in that situation. giants had a string of luck in the playoffs that came down to the last minute or O.T. versus dallas, g.b., and n.e.

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]]> By: winsb31 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9689 winsb31 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:23:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9689 as a packer fan, i do not believe he deserved it. period as a packer fan, i do not believe he deserved it. period

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]]> By: leon999 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9675 leon999 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:36:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9675 I love endless arguments about who "should be" the winner of an award. Especially when they mix in statements about on-field records. Fact is, only the people with a vote matter. Had these voters given it to Condi Rice or Soupy Sales, then they'd, in fact, be "deserving." Why? Because the voters said so. There is no reality other than their vote. Of course, sports voters suck at their jobs. If the BCS system were used in the NFL, the Patriots would've defeated the Cowboys at this year's Super Bowl. The only things that matter are the games, wins and losses. The rest is pretty meaningless. Or to quote another old Packers GM, all this blather is just a "fart in the wind." I love endless arguments about who “should be” the winner of an award. Especially when they mix in statements about on-field records.

Fact is, only the people with a vote matter. Had these voters given it to Condi Rice or Soupy Sales, then they’d, in fact, be “deserving.” Why? Because the voters said so. There is no reality other than their vote.

Of course, sports voters suck at their jobs. If the BCS system were used in the NFL, the Patriots would’ve defeated the Cowboys at this year’s Super Bowl.

The only things that matter are the games, wins and losses. The rest is pretty meaningless. Or to quote another old Packers GM, all this blather is just a “fart in the wind.”

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]]> By: jhitchins1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9651 jhitchins1 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:59:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9651 I'm not a fan because I have a negative opinion of our GM? That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard. Let's all take a trip back in time, 3 years ago when Uncle Ted took over. The Packers were coming off a playoff appearance and 3 out of 4 NFC North titles. So let's not forget that this team was a perennial playoff team when he took over. As for Moss, how could he have not improved the team? He wanted to play for a winner, and the Packers were winners last year. And saying we didn't need him because our receivers were good enough is like saying we don't need Tomlinson because our running backs are good enough. Just remember, nobody ever complains about having too much talent on their team. I’m not a fan because I have a negative opinion of our GM? That’s the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard. Let’s all take a trip back in time, 3 years ago when Uncle Ted took over. The Packers were coming off a playoff appearance and 3 out of 4 NFC North titles. So let’s not forget that this team was a perennial playoff team when he took over. As for Moss, how could he have not improved the team? He wanted to play for a winner, and the Packers were winners last year. And saying we didn’t need him because our receivers were good enough is like saying we don’t need Tomlinson because our running backs are good enough. Just remember, nobody ever complains about having too much talent on their team.

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]]> By: 75jbass http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9634 75jbass Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:06:21 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9634 Sorry, but take away the Packers franchise QB and they don't finish .500. The Giants traded Grant because he was fourth on the depth chart. Obviously, keeping Bradshaw turned out to be the smarter move. So what exactly did the Packers end up proving last year, but that Favre did have some football left? At least until he faced the Giants. You want to compare head to head? The Giants walked into the Packers "mighty" Lambeau field and BEAT THEM. Give Thompson this token popularity award. I'm sure it takes the sting off of that playoff loss. Sorry, but take away the Packers franchise QB and they don’t finish .500. The Giants traded Grant because he was fourth on the depth chart. Obviously, keeping Bradshaw turned out to be the smarter move. So what exactly did the Packers end up proving last year, but that Favre did have some football left? At least until he faced the Giants.

You want to compare head to head? The Giants walked into the Packers “mighty” Lambeau field and BEAT THEM.

Give Thompson this token popularity award. I’m sure it takes the sting off of that playoff loss.

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]]> By: thejetsblog http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9626 thejetsblog Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:17:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9626 yes, reese drafted well, kudos to him -- but that doesn't make him exec of the year! he assembled a few pieces, but if you give reese the award, then give another to ernie accorsi as well, the team is largely fashioned in HIS image. yes, reese drafted well, kudos to him — but that doesn’t make him exec of the year!

he assembled a few pieces, but if you give reese the award, then give another to ernie accorsi as well, the team is largely fashioned in HIS image.

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]]> By: drew http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9621 drew Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:17:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9621 jhitchins1: You are a Packers fan, yet you speak with unbias? What? jhitchins1:

You are a Packers fan, yet you speak with unbias?

What?

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]]> By: ShawshankReception http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9613 ShawshankReception Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:29:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9613 @djkromer004, I disagree. When it comes to the draft, I don't think you can say that any other GM would have made the selections that Reese made. Reese also made some roster moves that were considered questionable at the time by both fans and sportswriters, like cutting injury prone LT Luke Petitgout, who was unanimously considered their best OL. Petitgout goes to Tampa, goes down with a season-ending injury, and the remainder of the Giants' O-Line shines. As for the week 2 loss to the Packers: it's week 2. So many things change over the course of a season. Some players go down to injury, and some are just worn out or play hurt. I do think the Giants team at the end of the season was better than in week 2. But I also think many of the other teams were just not as good as they had been, and it goes back to having quality depth. The Giants had this, due to a stellar rookie class. As the season wore on, the rookie class saw more playing time, and as a result, they developed into better players. Just like in Madden :) @djkromer004,

I disagree. When it comes to the draft, I don’t think you can say that any other GM would have made the selections that Reese made. Reese also made some roster moves that were considered questionable at the time by both fans and sportswriters, like cutting injury prone LT Luke Petitgout, who was unanimously considered their best OL. Petitgout goes to Tampa, goes down with a season-ending injury, and the remainder of the Giants’ O-Line shines.

As for the week 2 loss to the Packers: it’s week 2. So many things change over the course of a season. Some players go down to injury, and some are just worn out or play hurt. I do think the Giants team at the end of the season was better than in week 2. But I also think many of the other teams were just not as good as they had been, and it goes back to having quality depth. The Giants had this, due to a stellar rookie class.

As the season wore on, the rookie class saw more playing time, and as a result, they developed into better players. Just like in Madden

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]]> By: fav-rah http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9610 fav-rah Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:05:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9610 let's not forget that a gm's job isn't all about drafting players, but also signing their own. tt has managed the cap tremendously over the past two years since he was left with a mess from the pack's previous g.m. also, for those of you who are saying that the award shouldn't be based on what the g.m. did the previous year, who's to say that this was even a factor in why the execs voted for tt. everyone is bringing up gregg jennings, but does anyone have first-hand knowledge that this draft pick was one of the reasons why tt got the award in the first place? check out what else tt did in '07... Al Harris signs multi-year contract extension (Feb. 14). Cullen Jenkins signed multi-year extension (Feb. 26). Nick Barnett signed to long-term contract extension (April 10). GOTTA KEEP YOUR OWN WHO ARE PRODUCING AND NOT LET THEM GET AWAY IN FREE AGENCY. let’s not forget that a gm’s job isn’t all about drafting players, but also signing their own. tt has managed the cap tremendously over the past two years since he was left with a mess from the pack’s previous g.m. also, for those of you who are saying that the award shouldn’t be based on what the g.m. did the previous year, who’s to say that this was even a factor in why the execs voted for tt. everyone is bringing up gregg jennings, but does anyone have first-hand knowledge that this draft pick was one of the reasons why tt got the award in the first place? check out what else tt did in ‘07… Al Harris signs multi-year contract extension (Feb. 14). Cullen Jenkins signed multi-year extension (Feb. 26). Nick Barnett signed to long-term contract extension (April 10). GOTTA KEEP YOUR OWN WHO ARE PRODUCING AND NOT LET THEM GET AWAY IN FREE AGENCY.

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]]> By: wils0646 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9608 wils0646 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:01:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9608 jhutchins1, No, you're not a Packer fan. How can you possibly not like TT as our GM when he's transformed a team lacking in specific areas (mostly D in past years) into an all around contender? Look what the man has done. He turned a franchise around in only 3 seasons, when it sometimes takes a decade for some to do the same. For God's sake, our team was 14-4 last year when everyone thought we'd be 8-8, maybe 9-7 at best. Give credit where credit is due. TT brought in select FA that have been valuable for us (Charles Woodson, Ryan Pickett) while still using the draft as the focal point. I like it and you should start realizing that it's working. And yes, Good Newz Kennels is right. How do you know how Moss would have played in our offense? How do you know he ever wanted to come here? IMO, once New England entered the picture, there was no way we were getting him to come to Green Bay. We were 14-4 last year. We were one drive away from the Super Bowl. TT has to get some credit. Period. jhutchins1,

No, you’re not a Packer fan. How can you possibly not like TT as our GM when he’s transformed a team lacking in specific areas (mostly D in past years) into an all around contender? Look what the man has done. He turned a franchise around in only 3 seasons, when it sometimes takes a decade for some to do the same.

For God’s sake, our team was 14-4 last year when everyone thought we’d be 8-8, maybe 9-7 at best. Give credit where credit is due. TT brought in select FA that have been valuable for us (Charles Woodson, Ryan Pickett) while still using the draft as the focal point. I like it and you should start realizing that it’s working.

And yes, Good Newz Kennels is right. How do you know how Moss would have played in our offense? How do you know he ever wanted to come here? IMO, once New England entered the picture, there was no way we were getting him to come to Green Bay.

We were 14-4 last year. We were one drive away from the Super Bowl. TT has to get some credit. Period.

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]]> By: fav-rah http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9607 fav-rah Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:54:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9607 i agree, gnk, the pack didn't need moss, especially after all the negative phone calls tt and harlan received from fans who also didn't want someone who pulled the moon gesture in that playoff game in '04 (i believe). i agree, gnk, the pack didn’t need moss, especially after all the negative phone calls tt and harlan received from fans who also didn’t want someone who pulled the moon gesture in that playoff game in ‘04 (i believe).

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]]> By: stiller43 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9605 stiller43 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:35:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9605 bottom line, TT may be better over the long run, but Reese clearly had the better year, players like Jennings and other contributors from past years don't factor in. The award is exec of the year, not of the past decade. Reese clearly had a better draft and it showed late down the stretch with key performances from his rookies when others went down. bottom line, TT may be better over the long run, but Reese clearly had the better year, players like Jennings and other contributors from past years don’t factor in. The award is exec of the year, not of the past decade. Reese clearly had a better draft and it showed late down the stretch with key performances from his rookies when others went down.

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]]> By: djkromer004 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9604 djkromer004 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:24:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9604 Let's not forget that being a GM isn't ALL about what you DO, it is about what you don't do as well. Sure Moss had a great season with the Pats, no one can deny that. But would it have been as good with the Packers team oriented approach? There is only speculation, but I can almost guarantee he wouldn't have had 23 TD's. He very possibly could have caused problems in the locker room and led to the teams downfall. Was the Packer nation also upset when TT drafted Harrell number one? Yes, they booed him for goodness sakes. How about when the only free agent he signed was a washed up Giants cornerback? Or when he hired Mike McCarthy? Drafted Greg Jennings, James Jones, Aaron Rodgers? Nobody liked those things, but he stuck to his guns. Against everything everyone else said, and guess what? HE WON! He won with everyone saying he was an idiot. Sure, there is no doubt that the Giants GM did a good job this year. But he made the decisions that any GM would have made. He picked good players in spots where they were needed. Thompson went out and got not only immediate contributors, but some great second string and role players, which in my opinion, are important too. This isn't all about starters. The team is 53 guys even though the starting line up is only 22. Giants, I'm happy for you, you beat the Patriots God bless your hearts, but seriously. The Pack beat you 35-13 in week 2. Then the Packers played poorly against you in the NFC Championship. Don't come here with all of the "They were worse then" because they almost beat Dallas early in the season, late in the season, and then DID beat them in the playoffs. The G-Men were good all year, they were 10-6 for crying out loud. The Packers lost out on inexperience and Brett's lack of patience. Final point... Again, 19 GM's voted for Ted to the 9 that Reese got. Who knows the job better? Obviously the guys that do it. Let’s not forget that being a GM isn’t ALL about what you DO, it is about what you don’t do as well.

Sure Moss had a great season with the Pats, no one can deny that. But would it have been as good with the Packers team oriented approach? There is only speculation, but I can almost guarantee he wouldn’t have had 23 TD’s. He very possibly could have caused problems in the locker room and led to the teams downfall.

Was the Packer nation also upset when TT drafted Harrell number one? Yes, they booed him for goodness sakes.

How about when the only free agent he signed was a washed up Giants cornerback? Or when he hired Mike McCarthy? Drafted Greg Jennings, James Jones, Aaron Rodgers?

Nobody liked those things, but he stuck to his guns. Against everything everyone else said, and guess what? HE WON! He won with everyone saying he was an idiot.

Sure, there is no doubt that the Giants GM did a good job this year. But he made the decisions that any GM would have made. He picked good players in spots where they were needed.

Thompson went out and got not only immediate contributors, but some great second string and role players, which in my opinion, are important too. This isn’t all about starters. The team is 53 guys even though the starting line up is only 22.

Giants, I’m happy for you, you beat the Patriots God bless your hearts, but seriously. The Pack beat you 35-13 in week 2. Then the Packers played poorly against you in the NFC Championship. Don’t come here with all of the “They were worse then” because they almost beat Dallas early in the season, late in the season, and then DID beat them in the playoffs. The G-Men were good all year, they were 10-6 for crying out loud. The Packers lost out on inexperience and Brett’s lack of patience.

Final point… Again, 19 GM’s voted for Ted to the 9 that Reese got. Who knows the job better? Obviously the guys that do it.

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]]> By: Good Newz Kennels http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9602 Good Newz Kennels Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:21:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9602 I'm not going to fault Thompson for passing on Moss. Moss dogged it for Oakland the previous year, even opting to just sit out the final couple of games with a phantom ankle injury. He was great at New England, of course, but he wouldn't work out for a lot of teams. Green Bay is fine at wide receivers. They've picked up two real good ones in the draft the last two years. Jennings (who's already really good) and James Jones (who will be). I’m not going to fault Thompson for passing on Moss. Moss dogged it for Oakland the previous year, even opting to just sit out the final couple of games with a phantom ankle injury. He was great at New England, of course, but he wouldn’t work out for a lot of teams. Green Bay is fine at wide receivers. They’ve picked up two real good ones in the draft the last two years. Jennings (who’s already really good) and James Jones (who will be).

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]]> By: ShawshankReception http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9601 ShawshankReception Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:14:41 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9601 @bgman, To answer your question: "Besides true die-hard football geeks, who remembers who lost in the conference championship games?" The fans of the Philadelphia Eagles. Their team lost three of them in a row before managing to lose the Super Bowl. :) @renaissancemanrt, The Packer franchise was not rebuilt in a year. The award is Executive of the Year. If there is an Executive of the Decade award, then I think Thompson deserves some consideration. And yes, Spagnuolo did a fantastic job with the defense, but the reason for the Giants' success this past season is three-pronged, IMO. The other two being the contributions of rookies and the near-mistake-free play of the offense down the stretch (and in particular the offensive line throughout most of the season). I'm not sure how to attribute the turnaround in the number of mental errors except by crediting the coaching staff for whatever they might have done as well as the front office for the changes that were made in the locker room. @bgman,

To answer your question:

“Besides true die-hard football geeks, who remembers who lost in the conference championship games?”

The fans of the Philadelphia Eagles. Their team lost three of them in a row before managing to lose the Super Bowl.

@renaissancemanrt,

The Packer franchise was not rebuilt in a year. The award is Executive of the Year. If there is an Executive of the Decade award, then I think Thompson deserves some consideration.

And yes, Spagnuolo did a fantastic job with the defense, but the reason for the Giants’ success this past season is three-pronged, IMO. The other two being the contributions of rookies and the near-mistake-free play of the offense down the stretch (and in particular the offensive line throughout most of the season).

I’m not sure how to attribute the turnaround in the number of mental errors except by crediting the coaching staff for whatever they might have done as well as the front office for the changes that were made in the locker room.

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]]> By: Jon http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9600 Jon Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:14:33 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9600 Perhaps they're granting the award based on how the exec's work has come to fruition this year. This year Green Bay got the bulk of their production from guys that T-Squared acquired. I think the contributions of guys like Greg Jennings, Donald Lee, and Ryan Grant may have had a lot to do with his selection as exec of the year. Perhaps they’re granting the award based on how the exec’s work has come to fruition this year. This year Green Bay got the bulk of their production from guys that T-Squared acquired. I think the contributions of guys like Greg Jennings, Donald Lee, and Ryan Grant may have had a lot to do with his selection as exec of the year.

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]]> By: lambeauleaper http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9599 lambeauleaper Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:06:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9599 I think it's closer to a toss-up. I'm not sure how a GM orchestrates Shockey going down and Eli stepping up. Seems to me that was the turning point in the Giants season. I think it’s closer to a toss-up. I’m not sure how a GM orchestrates Shockey going down and Eli stepping up. Seems to me that was the turning point in the Giants season.

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]]> By: jhitchins1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9596 jhitchins1 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:34:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9596 How can the man who passes on Randy "23 TD" Moss because he doesn't want to give up a 4th rd pick be exec. of the year? Instead of using said pick on Moss, he used it on Allen Barbre, excellent choice. And with his first round pick, he chooses Justin Harrell, who played almost as much in his rookie year as he did in 4 years of college, which was about 6 games. Meanwhile, players like Leon Hall, Aaron Ross, and Brandon Meriweather were still on the board. The defensive front was set before the draft, while the secondary had glaring holes in it, which were thoroughly exploited by Plax Burress, but Harrell was the man. I'm a Packer fan, and I think Reese is, hands down, the winner. How can the man who passes on Randy “23 TD” Moss because he doesn’t want to give up a 4th rd pick be exec. of the year? Instead of using said pick on Moss, he used it on Allen Barbre, excellent choice. And with his first round pick, he chooses Justin Harrell, who played almost as much in his rookie year as he did in 4 years of college, which was about 6 games. Meanwhile, players like Leon Hall, Aaron Ross, and Brandon Meriweather were still on the board. The defensive front was set before the draft, while the secondary had glaring holes in it, which were thoroughly exploited by Plax Burress, but Harrell was the man. I’m a Packer fan, and I think Reese is, hands down, the winner.

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]]> By: reubenstein http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9595 reubenstein Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:32:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9595 So Giant's fans aren't happy enough with a Super Bowl ring... They want every accolade and award the NFL offseason has to offer? Ted Thompson shrewdly managed the development of a team that is the youngest in the NFL and over-shot/exceeded all expectations this past season. There were no better GM's to contest for the award, but Thompson and the coach he hired did more with less. The NY Giants were not expected to be cellar-dwellers this past season like Green Bay was predicted to be. So Giant’s fans aren’t happy enough with a Super Bowl ring… They want every accolade and award the NFL offseason has to offer?

Ted Thompson shrewdly managed the development of a team that is the youngest in the NFL and over-shot/exceeded all expectations this past season. There were no better GM’s to contest for the award, but Thompson and the coach he hired did more with less. The NY Giants were not expected to be cellar-dwellers this past season like Green Bay was predicted to be.

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]]> By: renaissancemanrt http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9594 renaissancemanrt Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:31:41 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9594 I'd argue also that Spagnuolo, and the Giants defense clicking at the right time had more to do with the Lombardi than Reese. Steve Smith, Ahmad Bradshaw, and Kevin Boss all had minimal roles in the regular season as well. I’d argue also that Spagnuolo, and the Giants defense clicking at the right time had more to do with the Lombardi than Reese. Steve Smith, Ahmad Bradshaw, and Kevin Boss all had minimal roles in the regular season as well.

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]]> By: renaissancemanrt http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9592 renaissancemanrt Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:23:50 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9592 Bottom line, if you want a GM to rebuild a franchise, get Ted Thompson. If you want someone to come in and take a playoff team to the Superbowl and somehow think he's the executive of the year... well. Bottom line, if you want a GM to rebuild a franchise, get Ted Thompson. If you want someone to come in and take a playoff team to the Superbowl and somehow think he’s the executive of the year… well.

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]]> By: bgman http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9591 bgman Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:23:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9591 For the Packer fan claiming 13-3 is better than 10-6, I think I'd take 10-6 and a Super Bowl win over 13-3 and a loss in the NFC championship game. A few years from now, most people -- outside Packer fans -- will not remember who the Giants beat to get to the Super Bowl (unless they recall the glorious way Favre ended his career with that interception in OT). Besides true die-hard football geeks, who remembers who lost in the conference championship games? So, no, 13-3 is not better. For the Packer fan claiming 13-3 is better than 10-6, I think I’d take 10-6 and a Super Bowl win over 13-3 and a loss in the NFC championship game. A few years from now, most people — outside Packer fans — will not remember who the Giants beat to get to the Super Bowl (unless they recall the glorious way Favre ended his career with that interception in OT).

Besides true die-hard football geeks, who remembers who lost in the conference championship games?

So, no, 13-3 is not better.

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]]> By: drew http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9585 drew Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:03:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9585 don't forget, DeOssie is also the G-men's long snapper. It may be over looked, but its a pretty important job. don’t forget, DeOssie is also the G-men’s long snapper. It may be over looked, but its a pretty important job.

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]]> By: ShawshankReception http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9583 ShawshankReception Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:53:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9583 @Good, Did you happen to catch the NFC Championship Game this year? Not head-t0-head enough, I guess? @Good,

Did you happen to catch the NFC Championship Game this year? Not head-t0-head enough, I guess?

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]]> By: Helmetskin http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9581 Helmetskin Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:52:33 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9581 Yea, then when they went head to head in the Playoffs the Giants shut Ryan Grant down and the Giants starting RB Brandon Jacobs knocked the snot out of Charles Woodson to set the tone for the game. Oh yea, the Giants won that game too. Let Thompson have it, Reese has a ring and has a team built to win several more over the next couple of years. Yea, then when they went head to head in the Playoffs the Giants shut Ryan Grant down and the Giants starting RB Brandon Jacobs knocked the snot out of Charles Woodson to set the tone for the game. Oh yea, the Giants won that game too. Let Thompson have it, Reese has a ring and has a team built to win several more over the next couple of years.

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]]> By: ShawshankReception http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9579 ShawshankReception Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:51:40 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9579 @Tommy, Actually, the Giants won mainly because of Reese's 2007 draft class. Every single one of the guys he drafted contributed in a major way this past season. How many GM's can say that? When you get contributions like that from rookies, you have a good chance to go far in the playoffs. Take away those rookies, (and add Barber and Shockey) and you essentially have the previous year's 8-8 team that was one-and-done in the playoffs. With the way the league is these days, quality depth goes a LONG way. And, for what it's worth, the Giants entered the 2007 season as the 8th youngest team in the NFL. @Tommy,

Actually, the Giants won mainly because of Reese’s 2007 draft class. Every single one of the guys he drafted contributed in a major way this past season. How many GM’s can say that?

When you get contributions like that from rookies, you have a good chance to go far in the playoffs. Take away those rookies, (and add Barber and Shockey) and you essentially have the previous year’s 8-8 team that was one-and-done in the playoffs.

With the way the league is these days, quality depth goes a LONG way. And, for what it’s worth, the Giants entered the 2007 season as the 8th youngest team in the NFL.

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]]> By: drew http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9576 drew Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:48:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9576 Thompson is grossly overrated. Seven of Reese's draft picks contributed to the Giants Super Bowl win... SEVEN, Jerry, SEVEN! In his rookie season, he drafts SEVEN contributors to a SUPER BOWL trophy. SEVEN. SUPER BOWL. SUPER BOWL. Over an 18-0 team. SEVEN! SUPER... you get it. Thompson built the Packers? Sure. Let's see how they fare now that Lord Favre is gone (oh gosh, how PFT is rubbing off). The two corners, both FREE AGENTS, without them, the team is zilcho. Ryan Grant, big flippin' deal. Atari Bigby? WOW. Rack up another late hit/unneccesary roughness or PI call buddy. Reese not winning this award is as sad as the fact that Greg Popovich has never won an NBA Coach of the Year Award (yet has the best Winning PCT and 4 NBA Titles). Thompson is grossly overrated. Seven of Reese’s draft picks contributed to the Giants Super Bowl win… SEVEN, Jerry, SEVEN!

In his rookie season, he drafts SEVEN contributors to a SUPER BOWL trophy.

SEVEN. SUPER BOWL.

SUPER BOWL. Over an 18-0 team. SEVEN! SUPER… you get it.

Thompson built the Packers? Sure. Let’s see how they fare now that Lord Favre is gone (oh gosh, how PFT is rubbing off). The two corners, both FREE AGENTS, without them, the team is zilcho.

Ryan Grant, big flippin’ deal. Atari Bigby? WOW. Rack up another late hit/unneccesary roughness or PI call buddy.

Reese not winning this award is as sad as the fact that Greg Popovich has never won an NBA Coach of the Year Award (yet has the best Winning PCT and 4 NBA Titles).

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]]> By: stiller43 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9575 stiller43 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:47:49 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9575 I must agree with Florio here, James Jones was about the only rookie who came in and did something substantial. S Aaron Rouse played some but didn't have a geat impact. Also finding Mason Crosby and DeShawn Wynn late were very good acquisitions. However, Reeese, on his first year on the job, hit on a starting corner Aaron Ross on the 1st round, a real solid 3rd receiver who will take over for Amani Toomer soon in Steve Smith in the 2nd round. Reese found Jay Alford was part of that great D line rotation in the 3rd round, 4th rounder Zach Deossie filled in nicely when they had injuries at linebacker. We all know how nicely 5th rounder Kevin Boss worked out as with the big catch in the superbowl and all the trade rumors with Shockey. 6th rounder Adam Koets didn't do anything, but 7th rounder Michael Johnson played well and fellow 7th rounder Ahmad Bradshaw was part of a great RB rotation that took pressure off of Eli and won them the superbowl. Also, don't forget the underrated signing of Kawika Mitchell who played well for them at LB. TT's '07 draft really only produced about 3 immediate helpers, give or take 1 or 2 (helping in the '07 season, i obviously can't predict how they'll produce in '08) Reese's '07 draft produced 7 solid guys who provided immediate help and signed the right role players to win them the Superbowl. TT's real success has come from the past drafts, and if we could go back and award him with the work he did in past drafts, we should. I'm not trying to knock him at all, they clearly have one of the youngest and most talented teams. However, his '07 draft and free agency were clearly not as good as Reese's. I must agree with Florio here, James Jones was about the only rookie who came in and did something substantial. S Aaron Rouse played some but didn’t have a geat impact. Also finding Mason Crosby and DeShawn Wynn late were very good acquisitions. However, Reeese, on his first year on the job, hit on a starting corner Aaron Ross on the 1st round, a real solid 3rd receiver who will take over for Amani Toomer soon in Steve Smith in the 2nd round. Reese found Jay Alford was part of that great D line rotation in the 3rd round, 4th rounder Zach Deossie filled in nicely when they had injuries at linebacker. We all know how nicely 5th rounder Kevin Boss worked out as with the big catch in the superbowl and all the trade rumors with Shockey. 6th rounder Adam Koets didn’t do anything, but 7th rounder Michael Johnson played well and fellow 7th rounder Ahmad Bradshaw was part of a great RB rotation that took pressure off of Eli and won them the superbowl. Also, don’t forget the underrated signing of Kawika Mitchell who played well for them at LB.

TT’s ‘07 draft really only produced about 3 immediate helpers, give or take 1 or 2 (helping in the ‘07 season, i obviously can’t predict how they’ll produce in ‘08)

Reese’s ‘07 draft produced 7 solid guys who provided immediate help and signed the right role players to win them the Superbowl.

TT’s real success has come from the past drafts, and if we could go back and award him with the work he did in past drafts, we should. I’m not trying to knock him at all, they clearly have one of the youngest and most talented teams. However, his ‘07 draft and free agency were clearly not as good as Reese’s.

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]]> By: Good Newz Kennels http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9574 Good Newz Kennels Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:35:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9574 When those two executives went head-to-head this year, Thompson came out on top, getting Ryan Grant for a sixth-round draft pick. When those two executives went head-to-head this year, Thompson came out on top, getting Ryan Grant for a sixth-round draft pick.

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]]> By: Tommy Lawlor http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9570 Tommy Lawlor Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:22:27 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9570 Thompson deserved the award. He built the Packers. As the guy above said, they have been the youngest team in the league for the last two seasons. To have the team play like it did this year is pretty amazing. Reese did a very good job with the Giants, but they won mainly because of players brought in by Ernie Accorsi. Reese came in 2nd, so that shows people appreciate the job he did. If they have a great season in 2008, Jerry might just get his award. And I'm not a Packers fan. Thompson deserved the award. He built the Packers. As the guy above said, they have been the youngest team in the league for the last two seasons. To have the team play like it did this year is pretty amazing.

Reese did a very good job with the Giants, but they won mainly because of players brought in by Ernie Accorsi. Reese came in 2nd, so that shows people appreciate the job he did. If they have a great season in 2008, Jerry might just get his award.

And I’m not a Packers fan.

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]]> By: WiWiseGuy http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9568 WiWiseGuy Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:16:11 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9568 Sure what Reese did was impressive... but Sweaty Uncle Teddy built the team. He fired the old coach, hired a coach people looked down upon and drafted / traded for the majority of that team. Jennings, Jones, Martin, and K. Rob were all Thompson guys. So was 3 / 5ths of the O-Line and the Defense is loaded with young talent. Including the smatterings of FA signings by TT. In 3 years, Sweaty Uncle Teddy turned around and ancient roster in serious cap hell into an OT Field Goal short of the Superbowl. Yeah, it's not an overall achievement award...but 13-3 is better than 10-6 right? Sure what Reese did was impressive… but Sweaty Uncle Teddy built the team. He fired the old coach, hired a coach people looked down upon and drafted / traded for the majority of that team. Jennings, Jones, Martin, and K. Rob were all Thompson guys. So was 3 / 5ths of the O-Line and the Defense is loaded with young talent. Including the smatterings of FA signings by TT.

In 3 years, Sweaty Uncle Teddy turned around and ancient roster in serious cap hell into an OT Field Goal short of the Superbowl. Yeah, it’s not an overall achievement award…but 13-3 is better than 10-6 right?

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]]> By: OrangeMachine http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9567 OrangeMachine Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:12:13 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/thompson-is-exec-of-the-year/#comment-9567 Thompson led the youngest team in the NFL to the championship game - A team that was 4-12 two years ago and looked hopeless. Reese pretty much inherited the team he has; mean while TT has built his team through the draft and FA. But Oh wait Florio would know better then actual NFL exec's on who should win the award......... Thompson at worst is just as deserving as Reese; yes winning the Super Bowl is great but it should automatically mean you are the best at what you do (see: The Alan Page Award). Thompson led the youngest team in the NFL to the championship game - A team that was 4-12 two years ago and looked hopeless. Reese pretty much inherited the team he has; mean while TT has built his team through the draft and FA. But Oh wait Florio would know better then actual NFL exec’s on who should win the award……… Thompson at worst is just as deserving as Reese; yes winning the Super Bowl is great but it should automatically mean you are the best at what you do (see: The Alan Page Award).

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