Comments on: MORE THAN TWO CALLS DID IN NINERS http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:56:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: lasher1674 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9698 lasher1674 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:44:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9698 @KY Part Deux As BRH stated, the notion of the Bears being a cheap organization flew the coop several years ago. High price free agent signings (see Mushin Muhammed, John Tait on current roster), trades and subsequent signings of high-price talent (Adewale Ogunleye) and a willingness to keep thier own talent in house through contract extension (Nate Vasher, Peanut Tillman, Olin Kreutz, Brian Urlacher) shows this to not be a cheap franchise, as they regularly spend 90+ percent of salary cap dollars during the year as evidence of this outdated myth about the Bears. Florio's site is chock full of intelligent football fans/observers. Meatball, simple and/or small-minded bashing hopefully will continue to elicit feedback to weed out the stupid. Thank goodness for the new site and the ability to comment, bashing the ignorant is always good sport. @KY Part Deux

As BRH stated, the notion of the Bears being a cheap organization flew the coop several years ago. High price free agent signings (see Mushin Muhammed, John Tait on current roster), trades and subsequent signings of high-price talent (Adewale Ogunleye) and a willingness to keep thier own talent in house through contract extension (Nate Vasher, Peanut Tillman, Olin Kreutz, Brian Urlacher) shows this to not be a cheap franchise, as they regularly spend 90+ percent of salary cap dollars during the year as evidence of this outdated myth about the Bears.

Florio’s site is chock full of intelligent football fans/observers. Meatball, simple and/or small-minded bashing hopefully will continue to elicit feedback to weed out the stupid.

Thank goodness for the new site and the ability to comment, bashing the ignorant is always good sport.

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]]> By: a_ninerfan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9679 a_ninerfan Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:52:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9679 Here's is the real story, Tampering is Ok unless someone gets pissed and runs to Goodell. Here’s is the real story,

Tampering is Ok unless someone gets pissed and runs to Goodell.

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]]> By: brh http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9648 brh Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:50:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9648 @coyote The Bears were hurt by the 49ers actions during the season and therefore should absolutely receive some compensation. How does the Bears & 49ers swapping 3rd round picks "screw teams that weren't even involved"? Those teams all still pick in the exact same place they always did. Do you think the NFL should ban teams from trading draft picks as well since somehow in your world it screws all the teams drafting in between the 2 teams that trade? @KY The whole "Bears are cheap" thing is just stupid. It's an outdated myth that only uninformed and/or stupid people still believe. The Bears have a coaching staff that is paid above the league average, a state of the art front office & scouting department, and always pay out right up to the salary cap without using gimmicks to inflate cap numbers. So how are they cheap? Is it because they didn't go out and waste their money on a bunch of overrated free agents whose own teams didn't want them anymore? @coyote
The Bears were hurt by the 49ers actions during the season and therefore should absolutely receive some compensation. How does the Bears & 49ers swapping 3rd round picks “screw teams that weren’t even involved”? Those teams all still pick in the exact same place they always did. Do you think the NFL should ban teams from trading draft picks as well since somehow in your world it screws all the teams drafting in between the 2 teams that trade?

@KY
The whole “Bears are cheap” thing is just stupid. It’s an outdated myth that only uninformed and/or stupid people still believe. The Bears have a coaching staff that is paid above the league average, a state of the art front office & scouting department, and always pay out right up to the salary cap without using gimmicks to inflate cap numbers. So how are they cheap? Is it because they didn’t go out and waste their money on a bunch of overrated free agents whose own teams didn’t want them anymore?

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]]> By: lasher1674 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9598 lasher1674 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:00:49 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9598 Same organization that let a raunchy, homophobic video made by team personnel out of the building too, right? Pretty significant information containment issue with the 49ers that the team might want to address. Same organization that let a raunchy, homophobic video made by team personnel out of the building too, right? Pretty significant information containment issue with the 49ers that the team might want to address.

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]]> By: rkab http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9597 rkab Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:36:30 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9597 CheersAdam - You critique the "whole story" because it comes from a "rumor site" then gloat after a link to an blog from a reporter who has no actual evidence to support what he claims? A reporter in Kawakami who hasn't had a good thing to say about the 49ers in years? You think he might have an axe-to-grind and might be taking advantage of the lack of editors on a blog to throw out some random anti-49er rhetoric? Let's not kid ourselves here. The truth is likely somewhere between Maiocco's pro-49er stance and Kawakami's anti-49er stance. CheersAdam - You critique the “whole story” because it comes from a “rumor site” then gloat after a link to an blog from a reporter who has no actual evidence to support what he claims? A reporter in Kawakami who hasn’t had a good thing to say about the 49ers in years? You think he might have an axe-to-grind and might be taking advantage of the lack of editors on a blog to throw out some random anti-49er rhetoric?

Let’s not kid ourselves here.

The truth is likely somewhere between Maiocco’s pro-49er stance and Kawakami’s anti-49er stance.

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]]> By: JoeSixPack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9590 JoeSixPack Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:22:50 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9590 By selectively enforcing unenforceable rules, Goodell is creating a NEW problem for the NFL. The wise thing to do is create an even playing field for all teams and in this case that means change the rule or don't attempt to enforce it. With Spygate Goodell selectively enforced as well - prohibiting the videotaping from the sidelines, and of the sidelines (i.e. signal calling) but allowing taping from elsewhere in the stadium, with no attempt to police whether teams are taping signals or not. I guess the standard being set is that teams are prohibited from doing anything that embarasses Commissioner Goodell. If they do, they lose a draft pick. By selectively enforcing unenforceable rules, Goodell is creating a NEW problem for the NFL. The wise thing to do is create an even playing field for all teams and in this case that means change the rule or don’t attempt to enforce it.

With Spygate Goodell selectively enforced as well - prohibiting the videotaping from the sidelines, and of the sidelines (i.e. signal calling) but allowing taping from elsewhere in the stadium, with no attempt to police whether teams are taping signals or not.

I guess the standard being set is that teams are prohibited from doing anything that embarasses Commissioner Goodell. If they do, they lose a draft pick.

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]]> By: KY http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9584 KY Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:58:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9584 I'm actually surprised the Bears went through with this as they may be the cheapest organization in football. The way they spend money, I would think they'd want fewer draft picks. I’m actually surprised the Bears went through with this as they may be the cheapest organization in football.

The way they spend money, I would think they’d want fewer draft picks.

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]]> By: drew http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9582 drew Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:53:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9582 Florio, thanks for the asterix comment regarding the Niners 5-11 season (in your TSN column). I doubt Schula read it, or that he can in fact read, but I found it on the money. Florio, thanks for the asterix comment regarding the Niners 5-11 season (in your TSN column). I doubt Schula read it, or that he can in fact read, but I found it on the money.

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]]> By: CheersAdam http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9580 CheersAdam Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:52:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9580 I love being right, even when it's something as trivial as this. CheersAdam, a Cheerleader, says: March 25th, 2008 at 12:17 am The NFL found tampering on a phone record to an agent the team has players for? Doubtful that is the whole story, the fact that this is a rumor site first and foremost comes through here. Also though, as a life long Bears fan who is completely biased, the 49ers can &#&$ me. Payback for 84! I love being right, even when it’s something as trivial as this.

CheersAdam, a Cheerleader, says:
March 25th, 2008 at 12:17 am

The NFL found tampering on a phone record to an agent the team has players for? Doubtful that is the whole story, the fact that this is a rumor site first and foremost comes through here.

Also though, as a life long Bears fan who is completely biased, the 49ers can &#&$ me. Payback for 84!

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]]> By: ILikePie http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9578 ILikePie Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:49:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9578 I wonder how many teams IT geeks spent the day deleting email from the server mail logs. I doubt many of these emails were still actually on anyones computer but the teams network administrator would be able to pull up any mail that hasn't been purged from the server. The best part of Kawakami’s story in the San Jose Mercury News was this nugget "Some of the internal e-mails from front office people reveal that the top lieutenants to John and Jed York possibly aren’t quite totally all best friends and totally on the same page." I wonder how many teams IT geeks spent the day deleting email from the server mail logs. I doubt many of these emails were still actually on anyones computer but the teams network administrator would be able to pull up any mail that hasn’t been purged from the server.
The best part of Kawakami’s story in the San Jose Mercury News was this nugget “Some of the internal e-mails from front office people reveal that the top lieutenants to John and Jed York possibly aren’t quite totally all best friends and totally on the same page.”

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]]> By: coyote http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9571 coyote Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:28:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/more-than-two-calls-did-in-niners/#comment-9571 It doesn't matter if guilty or not to many teams cheat. I thought this sight got after bad moves in NFL and I think you should get after league about awarding Bears at expense of Vikes. Bills and Lions by moving Bears up in the third round? Take away picks if there guilty but don't award Bears at expense of other teams. I really thought this site would be right on this point but all you have done so far is listen to 49r's whine and point out how many teams cheat. Get on the awarding the Bears a higher pick that screws other teams not even involved. Thanks It doesn’t matter if guilty or not to many teams cheat.

I thought this sight got after bad moves in NFL and I think you should get after league about awarding Bears at expense of Vikes. Bills and Lions by moving Bears up in the third round?

Take away picks if there guilty but don’t award Bears at expense of other teams.

I really thought this site would be right on this point but all you have done so far is listen to 49r’s whine and point out how many teams cheat.

Get on the awarding the Bears a higher pick that screws other teams not even involved.

Thanks

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