Comments on: CHARGERS SAY NO OSGOOD TRADE http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:23:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: despyzer http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9639 despyzer Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:58:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9639 The fact that Osgood is no better than the sixth best WR on a team where the "rather pedestrian" Vincent Jackson is the best option shows how little bargaining power Osgood has in this power play. The fact that Osgood is no better than the sixth best WR on a team where the “rather pedestrian” Vincent Jackson is the best option shows how little bargaining power Osgood has in this power play.

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]]> By: Dixon_Cox http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9556 Dixon_Cox Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:35:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9556 Kasim Osgood is....the....next...great...reciever. NOT. Name one receiver on that team he is better than? Chambers? No. Jackson? No Parker? No. Unless you count him with a broker toe. Davis? Well, maybe. But he is way slower, so No. Malcom Floyd? No. He is not a good enough receiver to play.I'll take his place if he is unhappy. Kasim Osgood is….the….next…great…reciever. NOT.

Name one receiver on that team he is better than?

Chambers? No.
Jackson? No
Parker? No. Unless you count him with a broker toe.
Davis? Well, maybe. But he is way slower, so No.
Malcom Floyd? No.

He is not a good enough receiver to play.I’ll take his place if he is unhappy.

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]]> By: thxkbye http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9546 thxkbye Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:03:05 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9546 Florio, i recall you saying that Vincent Jackson is "The NFL's next great receiver." Rosenhaus and Osgood just made idiots of themselves for taking this public. AJ will not budge on this guy, when has AJ not kept his word. If Kassim wants to hold out let him, but don't think AJ will fold to those demands, this is the same GM that kept a perennial pro bowler and future hall of fame Tight End Antonio Gates out of a game because he signed his contract a day past AJ's deadline. AJ may come off like an asshole, but he is consistent, and I have a feeling it helps him deal with agents. Florio, i recall you saying that Vincent Jackson is “The NFL’s next great receiver.”

Rosenhaus and Osgood just made idiots of themselves for taking this public. AJ will not budge on this guy, when has AJ not kept his word.

If Kassim wants to hold out let him, but don’t think AJ will fold to those demands, this is the same GM that kept a perennial pro bowler and future hall of fame Tight End Antonio Gates out of a game because he signed his contract a day past AJ’s deadline.

AJ may come off like an asshole, but he is consistent, and I have a feeling it helps him deal with agents.

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]]> By: preludetosmack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9503 preludetosmack Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:59:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9503 It's all the work of Drew Rosenhaus (just like Chad Johnson's situation). Rosenhaus gets paid if a player gets a new contract, therefore while a player is coming off a pro-bowl year Rosenhaus attempts to negotiate for a trade that will, undoubtedly, include a new contract with the new team. Drew doesn't care if Osgood and Johnson don't see the end of their new contracts with the new teams... he gets paid for the guaranteed portion of the contracts. Seems like Smith is giving the same answer the Bengals are... Player is under contract and FU Drew. It’s all the work of Drew Rosenhaus (just like Chad Johnson’s situation).

Rosenhaus gets paid if a player gets a new contract, therefore while a player is coming off a pro-bowl year Rosenhaus attempts to negotiate for a trade that will, undoubtedly, include a new contract with the new team.

Drew doesn’t care if Osgood and Johnson don’t see the end of their new contracts with the new teams… he gets paid for the guaranteed portion of the contracts.

Seems like Smith is giving the same answer the Bengals are… Player is under contract and FU Drew.

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]]> By: Toad http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9497 Toad Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:47:54 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9497 There are a couple of things that are working against Osgood in San Diego. First, this is a contending team, not the Falcons. We have Chambers, Jackson, Parker and Gates to catch balls, while we have our '07 #1 draft pick, Buster Davis, slowly earning his way onto the field. In addition to our recievers, we have a certain LT who gets around 30 carries per game, and seems to have done fairly well over the past several years. KO just hasn't been able to crack the starting lineup as a receiver, and it hasn't be getting easier. KO just hasn't shown the talent to be considered a receiver in our offense. Interestingly, Cromartie may get more balls at WR this year than KO. Secondly, KO has recently availed himself of Rosenhaus's "talk to the media" strategy since he became KO's new agent; that NEVER WORKS with A.J. Smith. Just ask Donnie Edwards who is working for equivalent pay now in KC.... KO and Drew, with the help of the media, have written the ending to the last chapter of Osgood's Charger career. There are a couple of things that are working against Osgood in San Diego. First, this is a contending team, not the Falcons. We have Chambers, Jackson, Parker and Gates to catch balls, while we have our ‘07 #1 draft pick, Buster Davis, slowly earning his way onto the field. In addition to our recievers, we have a certain LT who gets around 30 carries per game, and seems to have done fairly well over the past several years. KO just hasn’t been able to crack the starting lineup as a receiver, and it hasn’t be getting easier. KO just hasn’t shown the talent to be considered a receiver in our offense. Interestingly, Cromartie may get more balls at WR this year than KO. Secondly, KO has recently availed himself of Rosenhaus’s “talk to the media” strategy since he became KO’s new agent; that NEVER WORKS with A.J. Smith. Just ask Donnie Edwards who is working for equivalent pay now in KC…. KO and Drew, with the help of the media, have written the ending to the last chapter of Osgood’s Charger career.

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]]> By: DirtySouthDolphin http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9490 DirtySouthDolphin Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:09:58 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9490 Seems to me that sitting out of workouts is pretty much the opposite of what he should be doing right now. Chargers arent going to play you at WR unless they think you can contribute there. No one is going to trade for you and give you WR money until you have shown you can play there. You havent shown that yet, and instead of attempting to work on it and show them you are ready to contribute there now, you sit out of practice and whine about it. Seems to me that sitting out of workouts is pretty much the opposite of what he should be doing right now. Chargers arent going to play you at WR unless they think you can contribute there. No one is going to trade for you and give you WR money until you have shown you can play there. You havent shown that yet, and instead of attempting to work on it and show them you are ready to contribute there now, you sit out of practice and whine about it.

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]]> By: Jon http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9489 Jon Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:08:40 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9489 But if you read the rest of the sentence, you'll see the reference to the Chargers' top receiver only making 41 catches. What he's saying is that the Chargers have little or nothing to lose by trying him at receiver. If he can't cut it, he'll go back to special teams. If he's good, though, then they will have found another playmaker. But if you read the rest of the sentence, you’ll see the reference to the Chargers’ top receiver only making 41 catches. What he’s saying is that the Chargers have little or nothing to lose by trying him at receiver. If he can’t cut it, he’ll go back to special teams. If he’s good, though, then they will have found another playmaker.

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]]> By: SomeGuy http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9484 SomeGuy Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:37:08 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9484 To say "it's a bit surprising the Chargers won't give Osgood a longer look on offense" couldn't be more wrong. Osgood has been given multiple opportunities from two different coaching staffs over last few off-seasons to prove himself as an NFL-level receiver. He has so far proved nothing other than the stoniness of his hands. He is not even a #3 in this league, as he will likely find out after his current contract with the Chargers ends. To say “it’s a bit surprising the Chargers won’t give Osgood a longer look on offense” couldn’t be more wrong.

Osgood has been given multiple opportunities from two different coaching staffs over last few off-seasons to prove himself as an NFL-level receiver. He has so far proved nothing other than the stoniness of his hands.

He is not even a #3 in this league, as he will likely find out after his current contract with the Chargers ends.

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]]> By: TheHube http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9482 TheHube Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:14:23 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9482 As much flack as we've all given the Spanos family and AJ Smith over the years, I'm beginning to do a 180 on Smith. He has drafted VERY well, and this San Diego team looks setup to compete for the Super Bowl each year for the next three to four years. They have 30+ players on their roster who they drafted, and most are locked up in long-term contracts. They have a nice mix of superstars and role players. I'm still not sold on Norv as a head coach (yes, yes, I know, he's the nicest man you'll meet in the head coaching ranks in the NFL), and I sided with Marty during the whole Marty/Smith debacle, but Smith's prowess in roster building is impressive. As much flack as we’ve all given the Spanos family and AJ Smith over the years, I’m beginning to do a 180 on Smith. He has drafted VERY well, and this San Diego team looks setup to compete for the Super Bowl each year for the next three to four years. They have 30+ players on their roster who they drafted, and most are locked up in long-term contracts. They have a nice mix of superstars and role players.

I’m still not sold on Norv as a head coach (yes, yes, I know, he’s the nicest man you’ll meet in the head coaching ranks in the NFL), and I sided with Marty during the whole Marty/Smith debacle, but Smith’s prowess in roster building is impressive.

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]]> By: SoCal Bengal http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9481 SoCal Bengal Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:11:34 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9481 maybe he's just not that good as a WR... maybe he’s just not that good as a WR…

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]]> By: The Jimmy http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9478 The Jimmy Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:07:32 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/25/chargers-say-no-osgood-trade/#comment-9478 Is it possible that they have given him a sufficent look on O and just decided he isn't a very good receiver? Is it possible that they have given him a sufficent look on O and just decided he isn’t a very good receiver?

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