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As far as Ronnie - the finger I’ll grant you, but it was an ankle the year before. He has not had a whole year healthy. I love Ronnie and I hope he is able to be what he was showing last year pre-injury. But all we have is Ricky without him and who knows if Ronnie can be that player again? Enough to spend a No. 1 on a RB? Probably not, but with no other clear cut No.1 and with trade value for a player some teams covet versus a slot if no-one is convinced you’ll tkae him and is content to wait it out rather than trade, it is a possibility. A slim one.

As far as O’line, I do think the Fins will load up in the draft. Goodness knows they need to.

I am not the most ardent reviewer of game film (hah), but I am most certainly not a Jwets fan and I take considerable umbrage (sp?) to that suggestion.

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I agree with you about Gin, and actually predicted his selection by the Dolphins based on what Cam/Mueller were saying (needed to get more offensive explosiveness, etc), as well as their pre-draft activity. Though his rookie season wasn’t spectacular, once they get the O-line solidified and the QB has some time, Ginn will have opportunity to get open deep. That’s when he’ll become the a deep threat with his world class speed, and a top receiving talent in the league.

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You know I just remember one of the things people were saying about Ginn after he was drafted (besides them being so shocked we didn’t draft that sorry a55 QB from ND), was that his route running was something that needed development. Who’s to say that Ginn didn’t work hard on that? I mean he is a meticulous perfectionist, and allegedly very coachable. That didn’t mean he would never be able to run a route as long as he was in the NFL. People just take pieces and run with it. Especially the people who are STILL crying over Brady Quinn. Maybe Cam and staff, who are great as offensive minds (regardless of his HC deficiencies) did a good job coaching him up.

They forget Ginn was a projected top 10 pick before his foot injury. They forget that Houston supposedly said he was gonna go 10 if he didn’t go before that. Miami did a good job fooling the league that Quinn was the guy.

Now regarding Hagan, yeah he can’t catch, but we saw that on the field. It was something that made him drop from the first to third round. We took a chance, and he hasn’t really improved in that area. Maybe he will.

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Are you referring to preseason 2007 talking heads’ comments? Because if you actually watched Ginn run his routes you would be saying something different. Sean Salisbury quotes shouldn’t be your reference point when evaluating “real” football players. IN fact many people on TV were complimenting Ginn’s “surprising precision” when running routes as a rookie. YOu are full of hot air or you are Jets fan.

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1. Ginn had a very good rookie season, especially given the offense and team that surrounded him. It usually takes at least three years for receivers to blossom, as it seems to be one of the most difficult positions for rookies to have early success at. Based on what I saw of him in 2007, Ginn’s route-running is perfectly fine and he should turn into a good receiver if he gets the help around him (QB and OL in particular).

2. McFadden’s not even in consideration, and for good reason. Ronnie is not “injury prone”, which you imply by saying he can’t stay healthy. He missed time in 2006 with a broken finger from a hit by a helmet (a freak injury and not one that indicates proneness to injury) and he’s torn his ACL once. That stuff happens all the time. If he tears it again, then we’ll talk. But a freak injury and one torn ligament in this day and age does not make one injury prone at all.

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Jake Long reportedly can’t take the LT position to the next level.

If they can’t trade the pick you have to take C. Long or D. McFadden (I know, I know, we have Ronnie and Ricky but McFadden could then be traded ala Eli Manning or if we get to keep him he could be the S*it. Ronnie cannot stay healthy and Ricky is always a ?. I am not sold that McF is the next Adrian Peterson, but there’s not much else out there.

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“When they drafted OL in the first that year, it was because they had a solid defense in place. More often than not, Parcells has shown a preference to build his defense first.”

Thought the Dolphins defense isn’t exactly formidable, relative to the O-line roster, it’s solid. Also if you look back past the cowboys, you’ll find Parcells drafted O and D almost equally. That said, Ireland is GM, so he’s going influence the choice as well as Sparano.

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“Chris Long will be drafted by the Dolphins… guaranteed”

Based on what? Is it that your able to see into the future, or do you have some reasoned premise with which to base your guarantee.

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I think there’s a small note that should be made, though. When they drafted OL in the first that year, it was because they had a solid defense in place. More often than not, Parcells has shown a preference to build his defense first.

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In ‘88 with Parcells as coach, the Giants selected OTs with their 1st and 2nd pick, one being Jumbo Elliott, who played for Parcells for 13 years with the both the Giants and the Jets. More over, if you actually look at who he’s drafted historically in the first two rounds it’s about even offense and defense.

Recently it been more defense because of team needs, which has been his main criteria, need. anyone looking at the roster can see that OT and O-line in general is the area of greatest need.

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Id like to take Jake Long #1 overall. Chris Long may indeed be the “safe” pick but as has been discussed its not so safe to take a guy like that and try to plug a square peg into a round hole.

I think Ginn, Wilford, Perry, and Hagan are solid enough that receiver is not a pressing need, and I dont see us doing anything round 1 about it. What I WOULD like is to grab a guy like Fred Davis or another receiving TE.

After that I think we really need to draft a corner day 1. The draft is deep enough that we can get a quality guy round 2. Will Allen is a solid #2 corner but after that we are hurting. Please please please do not move Jason Allen back to corner right when he is starting to come around at safety.

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It’ll be interesting to see how it turns out. Miami, as a rebuilding team needs to focus on their O/D line performance. Skill position players can be added in a number of different ways, what’s difficult is to acquire good to pro-bowl caliber linemen. I believe Parcells will keep the pick and draft Michigan T Jake Long. Cleveland made the right decision last year by selecting T Joe Thomas, Thomas immediately transformed their offensive line, allowed 1 sack and Cleveland went from having a mediocre at best offense to having one of the better offenses in the NFL with the same skill players they had in recent years. I’m not suggesting Jake Long might be as good as Joe Thomas. But what’s important to understand is that QB/WR/RB/TE play means nothing if the O-line is weak and that should be priority #1 for the Miami Dolphins.

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Roth has basically the same stats as DeMarcus Spears, who was drafted ahead of him, actually he’s got even more career sacks than Spears (7.5-4.5). So it may be an over statement to refer to him as a bust. That said, much like Chris, he’s not OLB material and would ned to add at least 20 lbs to play DE in the 3-4 (currently listed at 278).

It looks like their pretty well set a NT behind Ferguson, with Soliai and Starks. Moses is the guy currently on the roster who’s projected as heir apparent at hybrid behind Taylor. Of course, there will come a time when some of these guys will be finished, but it’s not this year. Which again, is why only DBs are listed as needs on the that side of the ball by PFT.

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Well said Mike. Chris is the safest pick in the draft to play DE in the 4-3, and that’s it. Even though Gholston may be more athletic to soom degree, I think the same logic applies to him as well. There are other Hybrid types that are even faster and have had experience at OLB who may be available later in the draft. Getting back to the topic of need though, D-line isn’t as urgent as O-line, that’s the bottom line.

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Another scenario would be to swap 1st round picks with ATL, Raiders, or the Ravens and pick up Glenn Dorsey or Sedrick Ellis - much better fits for 3-4 DEs than Gholston or Long that would be OLBs (who knows maybe they might even fit in at NT if they bulk up - which will be a much bigger issues for the Fins going forward than DE, just ask the Niners and Browns how the 3-4 works without a good NT).

If I was a Miami fan - I’d be hoping that they find another receiver - Wilford for several seasons lead the league in dropped passes - Ginn is more of a returner - and Tab was at best 4th receiver on the Bengals (when Chris Henry was active last season)… count in the lack of a good TE (don’t young QBs like them?) and they desperately need a good possession receiver/TE.

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Where are you getting this info that Chris Long will play OLB if he is drafted by Miami? I would think that considering Long ran a 4.75 at the combine in the 40 that this may not be a great idea. After all, this is a guy projected by some to even be a 4-3 tackle OR end…and definitely a 3-4 end. Defensive line is where Long belongs because that’s where his skills will suit him most. If they do indeed move him to OLB then they are stripping Long of the “safest pick in the draft” label.

If Miami were to draft for a better fit for a 3-4 OLB then the pick would be Vernon Gholston of OSU…though he may not be worthy of #1 overall money or value.

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“Chris Long is projected a s 3-4 End that can drop back and his versatility is amazing, but he has shown he can pile 30 pounds on and be that DE in Sparano’s scheme.”

OK, which is it, because he can’t “pile on 30 pounds” between plays. If he “piles on 30 pounds” will he retain his quickness off the line? Can he even play OLB effectively and is there anything that directly shows that? It would appear that not only is there not a need for him on the roster, but no one seems to know what position he would play. That’s way to much uncertainty to invest in a #1 overall pick.

As for OLBs, there are 7 currently on the roster, and of course, 1 starting OT and 1 back up OT.

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As for Miami’s current state at 3-4 end, Miami has four - Vonnie Holliday, Randy Starks, Rodrique Wright and Derreck Robinson. Holliday and Starks will start at end and Ferguson at nose tackle. Guys like Roth and Moses are way too small to play end - they’d have to stand up too.

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Most analyst have the top 5- OT’s being drafted in the 1st round, who do you think is the equal of Jake at LT, that would be available? Besides that, if you had happened to take a look at the top 32 players on most analyst list, you would find there are as many if not more DEs, not even counting at least 2 OLBs. So DE/OLB is actually deeper. considering the fact that not all the OT’s are projected at LT, then there are even less if any that would be available in round 2. Go ahead, check it out.

Let me also ask you if you think it’s a safe pick to take a guy at #1 to play a position he’s never played, and as a result you have no tape to see how he has (or hypothetically, would) perform at that position. Do you think that’s a wise choice?

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Already with two second round picks, it would then be easy for Parcells to draft the players he feels are the best on the board, not necessarily having to address a particular need.

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You don’t take Jake Long because offensive tackle is the deepest position in the entire draft. There are potential franchise offensive tackles in the second and third rounds.

Not to mention, there are no 3-4 ENDS in consideration for the top pick. Chris Long and Gholston would both play linebacker in the 3-4.

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You don’t give $35 million guaranteed to a 3-4 end…you just don’t and that should eliminate Chris Long from consideration.

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LB is not a spressing of a need but Parcell’s defense is very dependent on biug LB’s and we lost Zach Thomas So Crowder Torber and Porter will be fine players but we need to recigninz e that in two years we need some replenishment. Some of the needs aren’t immediate but if the right guy falls to you, you take him.

RB is fine. If he gets hurt we just pick Gado again to back up Ricky and help Booker. No big deal.

I really believe Chris Long is the guy especially since we did not land Calvin Pace.

ACDC84: Ginn is a top notch talent. The only reason he wasn’t projected in the top 10 was his injury. He is solid. Wilford is solid and probably will excel in this sytem in the same fashion Keyshawn did. Perry will be a solid #3, but league people are scared of Tedd Ginn, Jr. Believe what you want and if Beck or McCown with those big arms can get some to throw, Ginn will BLOW UP. With a pass blocking OL Miami was a 6 win team last year, and this year if the line improvews dramatically and CB is addressed along with DE, Miami could win 9 or 10 games.

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You left out one other position of importance to Parcells, a play making TE, as the ones currently on the roster are average. Everything else seems correct, with CB possibly taken before QB (Henne) in Parcellian draft-think.

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Carey has been said to be a better right tackle, but maybe someone here has some inside knowledge. Either way, by 2009 Carey will not be at left tackle, probably not this year.

I believe you meant Ronnie. He is not injusry prone butstuff happens and both injuries were freak. I believe he had a groin hamper him him in 2005 though.

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