Comments on: RAVENS EYEBALLING BROHM http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:34:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: jj frizz http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8839 jj frizz Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:38:50 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8839 brawltimore - you're right, I'm in. How can I not be? It's not like the Orioles are worth spending any money on. brawltimore - you’re right, I’m in. How can I not be? It’s not like the Orioles are worth spending any money on.

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]]> By: Mr Shush http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8728 Mr Shush Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:24:55 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8728 I second Grendel's view: Brohm is clearly the best quarterback prospect in what is actually not a bad QB class, for all its lack of headline top end talent. He's not as good a prospect as Cutler was, but he may be a better bet than any of last year's lot - and certainly than Russell. I still think a CB is more likely for the Ravens - Rolle is washed up, and they have no depth, but NFL scouts are better than internet draftniks and I'm willing to bet Brohm will go higher than people are currently predicting. As for Boller, I think Billick's fault was in pushing for his selection, not in coaching him. No quarterback with a college completion percentage even nearly as low as Boller's has succeeded in the NFL in decades. Not many get drafted. I second Grendel’s view: Brohm is clearly the best quarterback prospect in what is actually not a bad QB class, for all its lack of headline top end talent. He’s not as good a prospect as Cutler was, but he may be a better bet than any of last year’s lot - and certainly than Russell. I still think a CB is more likely for the Ravens - Rolle is washed up, and they have no depth, but NFL scouts are better than internet draftniks and I’m willing to bet Brohm will go higher than people are currently predicting.

As for Boller, I think Billick’s fault was in pushing for his selection, not in coaching him. No quarterback with a college completion percentage even nearly as low as Boller’s has succeeded in the NFL in decades. Not many get drafted.

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]]> By: brawltimore http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8640 brawltimore Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:57:00 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8640 SRK1.. be aware that Brian Billick has indeed left the building.. jj frizz.. going to a Ravens game is exciting in itself, just watching our D play and seeing how they feed off the crowd does it for me, though expensive.. even watching on a 60inch 1080p screen with a cold beer and clean bathroom doesn't compare. but I understand your concern, we haven't had a decent QB since Vinny and that is sad. As Matt posted above.. I wouldn't be surprised to see Clady a Raven. Would rather see Ryan drop to us, if not Brohm or Flacco in round 2 only. Then again a Sed Ellis falling to us reminds me of the Suggs fiasco, turned out pretty damn well for us. #8 ain't bad at all. SRK1.. be aware that Brian Billick has indeed left the building..

jj frizz.. going to a Ravens game is exciting in itself, just watching our D play and seeing how they feed off the crowd does it for me, though expensive.. even watching on a 60inch 1080p screen with a cold beer and clean bathroom doesn’t compare.

but I understand your concern, we haven’t had a decent QB since Vinny and that is sad.

As Matt posted above.. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Clady a Raven.
Would rather see Ryan drop to us, if not Brohm or Flacco in round 2 only.

Then again a Sed Ellis falling to us reminds me of the Suggs fiasco, turned out pretty damn well for us.

#8 ain’t bad at all.

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]]> By: jj frizz http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8634 jj frizz Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:29:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8634 For the love of Lombardi - please don't screw this up Baltimore. It's been 11 years of one retread/has been/never was after another. I owe these guys $600 for my season tickets next year, and I'm asking myself, "Is it worth it?" I can watch this train wreck on the Titanic at home, where the beer is cheap and so is the food. For the love of Lombardi - please don’t screw this up Baltimore. It’s been 11 years of one retread/has been/never was after another. I owe these guys $600 for my season tickets next year, and I’m asking myself, “Is it worth it?” I can watch this train wreck on the Titanic at home, where the beer is cheap and so is the food.

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]]> By: Matt http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8628 Matt Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:05:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8628 ravensfan - if, as has been reported, Ogden does retire in the next few weeks, wouldn't the need for an offensive tackle outweigh a DE or CB? Or do you have a lot of confidence in Adam Terry? It seems that Clady or Otah could make sense at #8. It's Harbaugh's first draft; does he really want to start his career on the arm of Brohm or Ryan? ravensfan - if, as has been reported, Ogden does retire in the next few weeks, wouldn’t the need for an offensive tackle outweigh a DE or CB? Or do you have a lot of confidence in Adam Terry?

It seems that Clady or Otah could make sense at #8. It’s Harbaugh’s first draft; does he really want to start his career on the arm of Brohm or Ryan?

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]]> By: Pastabelly http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8618 Pastabelly Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:40:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8618 Ryan is not a product of the media and his lack of stats relates to BC doing a poor job recruiting wide receivers. Ryan is not a product of the media and his lack of stats relates to BC doing a poor job recruiting wide receivers.

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]]> By: SRK1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8609 SRK1 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:06:06 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8609 The ravens will screw up any QB they get. The ravens will screw up any QB they get.

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]]> By: ravensfan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8606 ravensfan Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:40:58 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8606 There isn't a chance in hell of the Ravens drafting Brohm at 8. They brought him in, along with Flacco in case they are there with there second pick. The Ravens are taking a DE or CB with their first pick. Bet the house. There isn’t a chance in hell of the Ravens drafting Brohm at 8. They brought him in, along with Flacco in case they are there with there second pick. The Ravens are taking a DE or CB with their first pick. Bet the house.

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]]> By: William Wallace http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8578 William Wallace Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:07:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8578 I agree with A.C. Troy Smith looked damn good in relief last year, and has the potential to evolve into a great QB. Probably not "franchise" in the mold of Brady or Manning, or even Romo and Rothlisberger, but I saw more in him than Boller ever offered. I agree with A.C.
Troy Smith looked damn good in relief last year, and has the potential to evolve into a great QB. Probably not “franchise” in the mold of Brady or Manning, or even Romo and Rothlisberger, but I saw more in him than Boller ever offered.

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]]> By: Jeremiah W http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8573 Jeremiah W Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:44:24 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8573 Brohm may be an option if he is still on the board when the Ravens pick in the second round, and most mock drafts and rankings have Flacco and some even Henne going ahead of Brohm. Troy Smith is a very interesting option and will get a shot. He did look very good in the final game vs Pittsburgh who was still playing for the possibility of the 3 seed and a chance to avoid the Jags for a while. His size did not seem to be an issue because of his ability to move his feet with his eyes downfield. He has a nice over the top motion and had good accuracy on the move. Don't bury McNair either. He played pretty well in 06 before he learned the Billick system of squatting on a 3 point lead and playing field position. He was hurt in game 1 last year, but is still younger than Gannon when he was MVP and 4 years younger than Favre. Boller could be trade bait or a servicable backup. Hed is at least going to bring a legit QB competition to training camp for the first time in Raven history. Name one other team with 3 viable options at QB and the #8 pick in the draft with 10 qb prospects in it? Baltimore still has most of the talent that won 13 games 2 years ago, but last year they were the most injury and turnover prone team in the NFL. They still had the #6 defense, a 1200 yd rusher and 100 catch wr. 5 close games they either should have, could have, or actually did win but bad calls reversed the outcome. Brohm may be an option if he is still on the board when the Ravens pick in the second round, and most mock drafts and rankings have Flacco and some even Henne going ahead of Brohm.

Troy Smith is a very interesting option and will get a shot. He did look very good in the final game vs Pittsburgh who was still playing for the possibility of the 3 seed and a chance to avoid the Jags for a while. His size did not seem to be an issue because of his ability to move his feet with his eyes downfield. He has a nice over the top motion and had good accuracy on the move.

Don’t bury McNair either. He played pretty well in 06 before he learned the Billick system of squatting on a 3 point lead and playing field position. He was hurt in game 1 last year, but is still younger than Gannon when he was MVP and 4 years younger than Favre.

Boller could be trade bait or a servicable backup. Hed is at least going to bring a legit QB competition to training camp for the first time in Raven history. Name one other team with 3 viable options at QB and the #8 pick in the draft with 10 qb prospects in it?

Baltimore still has most of the talent that won 13 games 2 years ago, but last year they were the most injury and turnover prone team in the NFL. They still had the #6 defense, a 1200 yd rusher and 100 catch wr. 5 close games they either should have, could have, or actually did win but bad calls reversed the outcome.

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]]> By: Grendel http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8572 Grendel Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:41:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8572 Ryan is certainly a product of the media. He was what, the 7th best QB prospect coming into this year? What about a 59% completion percentage, 6.8 yards per attempt, and 1.5 TD / INT ratio says top 5 talent? There's no reason he should have risen that high. Brohm's slide is also a product of the media. He's clearly the best QB prospect. He was a top-10 lock last year, and he had his best year this year after having to learn a new offense with a new coach. Sure, L'ville's 6-6 record was disappointing, but that had a lot more to do with their #133 in the NCAA defense in points allowed. Brohm is in fact the best QB prospect in several years, and he'll be a steal for whatever team ends up with him. Ryan is certainly a product of the media. He was what, the 7th best QB prospect coming into this year? What about a 59% completion percentage, 6.8 yards per attempt, and 1.5 TD / INT ratio says top 5 talent? There’s no reason he should have risen that high.

Brohm’s slide is also a product of the media. He’s clearly the best QB prospect. He was a top-10 lock last year, and he had his best year this year after having to learn a new offense with a new coach. Sure, L’ville’s 6-6 record was disappointing, but that had a lot more to do with their #133 in the NCAA defense in points allowed. Brohm is in fact the best QB prospect in several years, and he’ll be a steal for whatever team ends up with him.

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]]> By: Matt http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8563 Matt Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:27:09 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8563 Nothing really excites me about this QB class - I almost think the lack of options has Ryan, Brohm, and possibly Flacco, higher than what they'd be in other years. I know Ryan's a winner - but it almost feels that if any of these guys go in the Top 10 (and at least 1 will), that some scouting department overvalued the talent. I do think they'd all be strong end of one-round/early round-two picks - but Ryan and Brohm particularly seem to be rated too high. Products of the hype machine, I suppose. Or maybe it's just the everglaring need for finding a franchise quarterback and having stability at the position for the next decade. Nothing really excites me about this QB class - I almost think the lack of options has Ryan, Brohm, and possibly Flacco, higher than what they’d be in other years. I know Ryan’s a winner - but it almost feels that if any of these guys go in the Top 10 (and at least 1 will), that some scouting department overvalued the talent. I do think they’d all be strong end of one-round/early round-two picks - but Ryan and Brohm particularly seem to be rated too high.

Products of the hype machine, I suppose. Or maybe it’s just the everglaring need for finding a franchise quarterback and having stability at the position for the next decade.

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]]> By: The Real A.C. http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8559 The Real A.C. Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:16:29 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/20/ravens-eyeballing-brohm/#comment-8559 They have a guy who can develop under the radar. Why wouldn't they do that with Troy Smith? They drafted him in what the 7th round last year? Is he not good? I mean I thought he didn't look that terrible in the limited action he had last year, but that might just be me. They have a guy who can develop under the radar. Why wouldn’t they do that with Troy Smith? They drafted him in what the 7th round last year? Is he not good? I mean I thought he didn’t look that terrible in the limited action he had last year, but that might just be me.

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