With the Baltimore Ravens struggling for, well ,their entire existence to obtain and develop a franchise quarterback, 2008 could be the year that they use the eighth overall pick in the draft to find a decade-long solution at the position.
Four years ago, the Steelers made such a move, ending more than 20 years of periodic uncertainty by selecting Ben Roethlisberger with the eleventh pick in the 2004 draft.
The perceived top two candidates this time around are Matt Ryan and Brian Brohm. Per Aaron Wilson of the Carroll County Times, the Ravens will be bringing Brohm to Baltimore next month for a closer look.
Also, Ravens director of college scouting Eric DeCosta reportedly attended Ryan’s Pro Day workout earlier this week. And the Ravens have had a private workout with Delaware quarterback Joe Flacco, a Pitt transfer who might leapfrog Brohm or Ryan.
But unless the Ravens conclude that one of those three guys is a can’t-miss proposition, we don’t think they should use the eighth overall pick on a quarterback. The better approach would be to grab a left tackle in that spot, and then look to round two for a quarterback.
Or, actually, the move might then be to use the second round-pick and 2009’s first-rounder to trade back into the bottom of round one to get whichever one (or two) of them slide beyond the 20th pick.
Then again, the Ravens pulled that precise manuever to get Kyle Boller, and it blew up in their faces.
And that speaks to the broader problem of drafting a quarterback in round one. Guys taken in later rounds typically can develop under the radar, without pressure or expectations.
Of course, having the ability to develop a young quarterback is another issue, and perhaps that was the primary flaw of the Brian Billick era. Though he might have been a wizard with the X’s and the O’s, maybe he simply didn’t know how to properly teach a young quarterback how to master the challenges of controlling his mechanics, reading the defenses, making good decisions, and doing it all while large men with bad breath and worse intentions are swarming around him.
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March 20th, 2008 at 11:16 am
They have a guy who can develop under the radar. Why wouldn’t they do that with Troy Smith? They drafted him in what the 7th round last year? Is he not good? I mean I thought he didn’t look that terrible in the limited action he had last year, but that might just be me.
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March 20th, 2008 at 11:27 am
Nothing really excites me about this QB class - I almost think the lack of options has Ryan, Brohm, and possibly Flacco, higher than what they’d be in other years. I know Ryan’s a winner - but it almost feels that if any of these guys go in the Top 10 (and at least 1 will), that some scouting department overvalued the talent. I do think they’d all be strong end of one-round/early round-two picks - but Ryan and Brohm particularly seem to be rated too high.
Products of the hype machine, I suppose. Or maybe it’s just the everglaring need for finding a franchise quarterback and having stability at the position for the next decade.
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March 20th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Ryan is certainly a product of the media. He was what, the 7th best QB prospect coming into this year? What about a 59% completion percentage, 6.8 yards per attempt, and 1.5 TD / INT ratio says top 5 talent? There’s no reason he should have risen that high.
Brohm’s slide is also a product of the media. He’s clearly the best QB prospect. He was a top-10 lock last year, and he had his best year this year after having to learn a new offense with a new coach. Sure, L’ville’s 6-6 record was disappointing, but that had a lot more to do with their #133 in the NCAA defense in points allowed. Brohm is in fact the best QB prospect in several years, and he’ll be a steal for whatever team ends up with him.
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March 20th, 2008 at 11:44 am
Brohm may be an option if he is still on the board when the Ravens pick in the second round, and most mock drafts and rankings have Flacco and some even Henne going ahead of Brohm.
Troy Smith is a very interesting option and will get a shot. He did look very good in the final game vs Pittsburgh who was still playing for the possibility of the 3 seed and a chance to avoid the Jags for a while. His size did not seem to be an issue because of his ability to move his feet with his eyes downfield. He has a nice over the top motion and had good accuracy on the move.
Don’t bury McNair either. He played pretty well in 06 before he learned the Billick system of squatting on a 3 point lead and playing field position. He was hurt in game 1 last year, but is still younger than Gannon when he was MVP and 4 years younger than Favre.
Boller could be trade bait or a servicable backup. Hed is at least going to bring a legit QB competition to training camp for the first time in Raven history. Name one other team with 3 viable options at QB and the #8 pick in the draft with 10 qb prospects in it?
Baltimore still has most of the talent that won 13 games 2 years ago, but last year they were the most injury and turnover prone team in the NFL. They still had the #6 defense, a 1200 yd rusher and 100 catch wr. 5 close games they either should have, could have, or actually did win but bad calls reversed the outcome.
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March 20th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
I agree with A.C.
Troy Smith looked damn good in relief last year, and has the potential to evolve into a great QB. Probably not “franchise” in the mold of Brady or Manning, or even Romo and Rothlisberger, but I saw more in him than Boller ever offered.
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March 20th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
There isn’t a chance in hell of the Ravens drafting Brohm at 8. They brought him in, along with Flacco in case they are there with there second pick. The Ravens are taking a DE or CB with their first pick. Bet the house.
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March 20th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
The ravens will screw up any QB they get.
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March 20th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Ryan is not a product of the media and his lack of stats relates to BC doing a poor job recruiting wide receivers.
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March 20th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
ravensfan - if, as has been reported, Ogden does retire in the next few weeks, wouldn’t the need for an offensive tackle outweigh a DE or CB? Or do you have a lot of confidence in Adam Terry?
It seems that Clady or Otah could make sense at #8. It’s Harbaugh’s first draft; does he really want to start his career on the arm of Brohm or Ryan?
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March 20th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
For the love of Lombardi - please don’t screw this up Baltimore. It’s been 11 years of one retread/has been/never was after another. I owe these guys $600 for my season tickets next year, and I’m asking myself, “Is it worth it?” I can watch this train wreck on the Titanic at home, where the beer is cheap and so is the food.
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March 20th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
SRK1.. be aware that Brian Billick has indeed left the building..
jj frizz.. going to a Ravens game is exciting in itself, just watching our D play and seeing how they feed off the crowd does it for me, though expensive.. even watching on a 60inch 1080p screen with a cold beer and clean bathroom doesn’t compare.
but I understand your concern, we haven’t had a decent QB since Vinny and that is sad.
As Matt posted above.. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Clady a Raven.
Would rather see Ryan drop to us, if not Brohm or Flacco in round 2 only.
Then again a Sed Ellis falling to us reminds me of the Suggs fiasco, turned out pretty damn well for us.
#8 ain’t bad at all.
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March 20th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
I second Grendel’s view: Brohm is clearly the best quarterback prospect in what is actually not a bad QB class, for all its lack of headline top end talent. He’s not as good a prospect as Cutler was, but he may be a better bet than any of last year’s lot - and certainly than Russell. I still think a CB is more likely for the Ravens - Rolle is washed up, and they have no depth, but NFL scouts are better than internet draftniks and I’m willing to bet Brohm will go higher than people are currently predicting.
As for Boller, I think Billick’s fault was in pushing for his selection, not in coaching him. No quarterback with a college completion percentage even nearly as low as Boller’s has succeeded in the NFL in decades. Not many get drafted.
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March 21st, 2008 at 12:38 pm
brawltimore - you’re right, I’m in. How can I not be? It’s not like the Orioles are worth spending any money on.
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