Comments on: HOUSHMANDZADEH UNHAPPY TOO? http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:40:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: DozenDeuce http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8768 DozenDeuce Fri, 21 Mar 2008 03:38:12 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8768 This has all the makings of a slow drawn out death. I have a feeling that's why Marvin tried to get himself fired a month or so ago when he said the Bungles should chuck it and start over. Why is anyone surprised that Ocho would then get really nervous as he stares down the back nine fo his career. Or that when Louis found out he wasn't getting outta this jam, that he'd take Chad's career down with him. Hope that pop to his melon was worth it Stinko. This has all the makings of a slow drawn out death. I have a feeling that’s why Marvin tried to get himself fired a month or so ago when he said the Bungles should chuck it and start over.

Why is anyone surprised that Ocho would then get really nervous as he stares down the back nine fo his career. Or that when Louis found out he wasn’t getting outta this jam, that he’d take Chad’s career down with him. Hope that pop to his melon was worth it Stinko.

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]]> By: xqr4 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8529 xqr4 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:50:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8529 TJ has come a long way, from a 7th round pick to one of the best WR last year. I remember when Lewis first took over, TJ had a bad hamstring that kept him out of nearly every game. He still got paid. Yeah, he probably deserves more next season, but his pay day will have to wait another year TJ has come a long way, from a 7th round pick to one of the best WR last year. I remember when Lewis first took over, TJ had a bad hamstring that kept him out of nearly every game. He still got paid. Yeah, he probably deserves more next season, but his pay day will have to wait another year

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]]> By: sanders421 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8527 sanders421 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:49:42 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8527 all the talent in the world wont matter. sad really. all the talent in the world wont matter. sad really.

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]]> By: brian_21 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8519 brian_21 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:54:56 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8519 A lot of these comments are off. The Cincinnati Bengals are definitely dysfunctional, and a lot of that probably factored into the under-achieving season. But as for Matt's point ... because they are amazing receivers, that's why the Bengals let them play. And I will go out on a limb and say the Bengals weren't average BECAUSE of those receivers. And I disagree with watchthisjack's claim that Marvin Lewis needs to go. He has shown he is an extremely capable coach. I'd give him another year or two with the nucleus that is there and wait and see what happens. If it is another year of crappy off the field issues combined with mediocrity, then maybe the time has come. I am not concerned about T.J. Houshmandzedah. He has somewhat of a right to gripe about $ if he's practically the best receiver in the NFL. That contract is not a lot of money for that kind of production. At the same time, teams aren't psychic; it's not like anyone could have projected this from T.J. At least it's the last year of his contract and still in essence $$$$$; he can file for free agency when the season ends, still young enough for one more big contract. I'm curious to see what happens with Cincinnati (Sin-Sin ... atti, I guess). A lot of these comments are off. The Cincinnati Bengals are definitely dysfunctional, and a lot of that probably factored into the under-achieving season. But as for Matt’s point … because they are amazing receivers, that’s why the Bengals let them play. And I will go out on a limb and say the Bengals weren’t average BECAUSE of those receivers.

And I disagree with watchthisjack’s claim that Marvin Lewis needs to go. He has shown he is an extremely capable coach. I’d give him another year or two with the nucleus that is there and wait and see what happens. If it is another year of crappy off the field issues combined with mediocrity, then maybe the time has come.

I am not concerned about T.J. Houshmandzedah. He has somewhat of a right to gripe about $ if he’s practically the best receiver in the NFL. That contract is not a lot of money for that kind of production. At the same time, teams aren’t psychic; it’s not like anyone could have projected this from T.J. At least it’s the last year of his contract and still in essence $$$$$; he can file for free agency when the season ends, still young enough for one more big contract.

I’m curious to see what happens with Cincinnati (Sin-Sin … atti, I guess).

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]]> By: Dan Dizzle http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8511 Dan Dizzle Thu, 20 Mar 2008 05:52:25 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8511 Marvin is a good coach but he should have done something a long time ago. He needs to trade Chad for Dallas' 28th pick while he still can get something for this headache. Where is Palmer in all of this? As a QB you HAVE to keep the others in check. Marvin is a good coach but he should have done something a long time ago. He needs to trade Chad for Dallas’ 28th pick while he still can get something for this headache. Where is Palmer in all of this? As a QB you HAVE to keep the others in check.

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]]> By: AFKfootball http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8505 AFKfootball Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:53:59 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8505 Thank you macmilitia for being the lone voice of reason here. Housh has never spoken out or complained, he knows when his payday is coming and it's after next season. This is a non-story. What IS a story is the amount of folks on here assuming that Housh is disgruntled. One more important thing to remember is that when contract issues come up and you have disgruntled players often the coach gets blamed, but it's the GM and the ownership who should bear the responsibility. So who wants to start the Housh to Philly rumors? I haven't heard one yet. Thank you macmilitia for being the lone voice of reason here. Housh has never spoken out or complained, he knows when his payday is coming and it’s after next season. This is a non-story. What IS a story is the amount of folks on here assuming that Housh is disgruntled.

One more important thing to remember is that when contract issues come up and you have disgruntled players often the coach gets blamed, but it’s the GM and the ownership who should bear the responsibility.

So who wants to start the Housh to Philly rumors? I haven’t heard one yet.

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]]> By: go_deep http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8484 go_deep Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:45:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8484 Drew Rosenhaus was Chad's agent when he signed a new contract in April of 2006. This was done when he had FOUR years left on his contract! Drew got his cut, and gets a cut from everything Chad does off the field also. After the contract was signed, Rosenhaus was quoted stating, "I can’t really think of any deal like this. I give a lot of credit to the Bengals for reworking a contract that had four years left, and you’ve got to take your hat off to Chad. He's a great player, on and off the field, to merit this type of unique situation........" Wow, how things change. Chad is not even the number one receiver on the Bengals anymore. In my opinion, a lot of that has to do with Carson's trust with him as a receiver Chad's head is not into football anymore. What made him a good receiver was the work he put into the game. Let's face it, Chad's best days could quite possibly be behind him. One can only hope he finds the motivation which got him to this point in his career. How many drops did he have last year, how many routes were not run correct? Drew Rosenhaus was Chad’s agent when he signed a new contract in April of 2006. This was done when he had FOUR years left on his contract! Drew got his cut, and gets a cut from everything Chad does off the field also.

After the contract was signed, Rosenhaus was quoted stating, “I can’t really think of any deal like this. I give a lot of credit to the Bengals for reworking a contract that had four years left, and you’ve got to take your hat off to Chad. He’s a great player, on and off the field, to merit this type of unique situation……..”

Wow, how things change. Chad is not even the number one receiver on the Bengals anymore. In my opinion, a lot of that has to do with Carson’s trust with him as a receiver Chad’s head is not into football anymore. What made him a good receiver was the work he put into the game. Let’s face it, Chad’s best days could quite possibly be behind him. One can only hope he finds the motivation which got him to this point in his career. How many drops did he have last year, how many routes were not run correct?

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]]> By: macmilitia http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8483 macmilitia Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:45:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8483 I really think this is a non-story...as stated in the article, Houshmandzadeh skipped the conditioning last year as well. He also hasn't said anything publicly about being unhappy, and while he remains close with Chad, he also seems to remain close with Marvin and the rest of the coaches, given the fact that he has mentioned that he talks to Marvin outside the regular season - something Chad "Carl Pickens #2" admits to not even doing himself... I can't see Marvin being fired if the Bengals go 9-7 next year, no matter what happens to the team...'ol Mike Brown can keep lining his pockets if the Bengals just stay in the verge of fielding a competitive football team... I really think this is a non-story…as stated in the article, Houshmandzadeh skipped the conditioning last year as well. He also hasn’t said anything publicly about being unhappy, and while he remains close with Chad, he also seems to remain close with Marvin and the rest of the coaches, given the fact that he has mentioned that he talks to Marvin outside the regular season - something Chad “Carl Pickens #2″ admits to not even doing himself…

I can’t see Marvin being fired if the Bengals go 9-7 next year, no matter what happens to the team…’ol Mike Brown can keep lining his pockets if the Bengals just stay in the verge of fielding a competitive football team…

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]]> By: Matt http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8478 Matt Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:41:07 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8478 Why does it seem that a disproportionate number of disgruntles play wide receiver? Why does it seem that a disproportionate number of disgruntles play wide receiver?

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]]> By: TBLCommish http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8477 TBLCommish Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:37:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8477 As a Steelers fan this is great news to me. Let the Bungles implode! I love it! As a Steelers fan this is great news to me. Let the Bungles implode! I love it!

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]]> By: drew http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8472 drew Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:22:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8472 What's disappointing most of all this is that Chad Johnson has rubbed off on TJ. This guy could've been a class act in the NFL, and in fact started off that way when he decided to take number 2 money and stick with the Bengals. He could've been a number 1 anywhere else, but opted to keep the nucleus together with Palmer, Johnson and himself. Now, he's a Chad first, me second type guy, with dollar signs for brains. If they sign him to a new deal, I hope they include a conditioner clause, where TJ has to use conditioner when he shampoos that ugly rat rug on his head. What’s disappointing most of all this is that Chad Johnson has rubbed off on TJ. This guy could’ve been a class act in the NFL, and in fact started off that way when he decided to take number 2 money and stick with the Bengals. He could’ve been a number 1 anywhere else, but opted to keep the nucleus together with Palmer, Johnson and himself.

Now, he’s a Chad first, me second type guy, with dollar signs for brains. If they sign him to a new deal, I hope they include a conditioner clause, where TJ has to use conditioner when he shampoos that ugly rat rug on his head.

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]]> By: whodey122975 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8461 whodey122975 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:04:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8461 watchthisjack i agree, if that really happened. and we may never really know. the double standard in the lockeroom has got to go and now if not sooner. i also was under the impression that talks were underway already with tj and the team for an extension / raise. i also heard today that chad got a new agent and that is why he wants out. the new agent isnt getting paid till a new deal is inked. i have no source for that info but heard it today from a fellow suffering bengals fan. i usually get excited when there is bengals news on pft but this blows. watchthisjack
i agree, if that really happened. and we may never really know. the double standard in the lockeroom has got to go and now if not sooner. i also was under the impression that talks were underway already with tj and the team for an extension / raise. i also heard today that chad got a new agent and that is why he wants out. the new agent isnt getting paid till a new deal is inked. i have no source for that info but heard it today from a fellow suffering bengals fan. i usually get excited when there is bengals news on pft but this blows.

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]]> By: whodey http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8460 whodey Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:54:01 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8460 Cutting him would've been a better option than giving him a new contract, that's for sure... But TJ missing isn't anything new like was stated in the article, I'd hardly say it's because Marvin has "lost the team". I do have doubts that Marvin Lewis will ever win a playoff game as a head coach though. And with a QB like Carson Palmer, that's sad. It won't necessarily be his fault, it will always fall on the shoulders of Mike Brown. Cutting him would’ve been a better option than giving him a new contract, that’s for sure…

But TJ missing isn’t anything new like was stated in the article, I’d hardly say it’s because Marvin has “lost the team”.

I do have doubts that Marvin Lewis will ever win a playoff game as a head coach though. And with a QB like Carson Palmer, that’s sad. It won’t necessarily be his fault, it will always fall on the shoulders of Mike Brown.

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]]> By: gobearsgo http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8459 gobearsgo Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:47:21 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8459 Nothing good is happening in Cincinnati. Too bad, there is way too much talent rotting away on that team. I would not be surprised if Lewis doesn't make it through 2008. Nothing good is happening in Cincinnati.

Too bad, there is way too much talent rotting away on that team.

I would not be surprised if Lewis doesn’t make it through 2008.

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]]> By: watchthisjack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8456 watchthisjack Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:39:18 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/houshmandzadeh-unhappy-too/#comment-8456 ok. Marvin needs to go. He has lost this team. It is now obvious that his players don't have any fear/respect of their coach. How is Chris Henry supposed to believe that he will be punished for drinking and driving when he watched Chad Johnson punch Lewis in the face at halftime and start the second half. If Lewis had cut chad then and there and had ocho cinco escorted from the building, I think that he would have had the attention of his other players, and they'd be a better team today. ok. Marvin needs to go. He has lost this team. It is now obvious that his players don’t have any fear/respect of their coach.
How is Chris Henry supposed to believe that he will be punished for drinking and driving when he watched Chad Johnson punch Lewis in the face at halftime and start the second half.
If Lewis had cut chad then and there and had ocho cinco escorted from the building, I think that he would have had the attention of his other players, and they’d be a better team today.

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