Comments on: CHAD WON’T SHOW FOR WORKOUTS http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/ The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:20:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: DozenDeuce http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8749 DozenDeuce Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:50:38 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8749 Seriously skirv, who gives a rat's a** how many kids he has? And special teams, are you kidding?! He's an elite reCEIVer not reTURNer, why do you think they won't let him leave? The same goes to everyone else who thinks he's overrated. If the people who are there working with and evaluating these players day in & day out would rather chop off a limb than let him go, that should tell you something about who's essential to their gameplan (i.e. he commands double-teams for a reason). Seriously skirv, who gives a rat’s a** how many kids he has? And special teams, are you kidding?! He’s an elite reCEIVer not reTURNer, why do you think they won’t let him leave?

The same goes to everyone else who thinks he’s overrated. If the people who are there working with and evaluating these players day in & day out would rather chop off a limb than let him go, that should tell you something about who’s essential to their gameplan (i.e. he commands double-teams for a reason).

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]]> By: skirv http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8455 skirv Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:12:41 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8455 Ocho is a complete nightmare. He has no clue how ignorant he is. Google Chad Johnson and kids and you will see where he has 4 by 3 different unmarried women and in 2005 an article where he ran over multiple kids (physically- not his-but him) to get to a camera. He is the self-proclaimed 'entertainer' who is the perfect fit for any team who can kickoff 80 yards. Sucking forever does not embarrass me as much as Marvin putting up with this crap. Cut him or put his dumbass on special teams and I will buy Chris Henry the latest version of Hooked-on-Phonics. Ocho is a complete nightmare. He has no clue how ignorant he is. Google Chad Johnson and kids and you will see where he has 4 by 3 different unmarried women and in 2005 an article where he ran over multiple kids (physically- not his-but him) to get to a camera. He is the self-proclaimed ‘entertainer’ who is the perfect fit for any team who can kickoff 80 yards. Sucking forever does not embarrass me as much as Marvin putting up with this crap. Cut him or put his dumbass on special teams and I will buy Chris Henry the latest version of Hooked-on-Phonics.

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]]> By: dlmcc0202 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8438 dlmcc0202 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:55:22 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8438 Good WR or not, theres no excuse for this guy running his mouth like he has the entire off season. Talent wise he should be in the top 5, but the guy is a locker room cancer. You get a few of these on a team and the team goes nowhere. He just makes himself look worse by the day. The Bengals are not going to trade him and take an $8 million cap hit. That would make no sense. Apparently the coaching staff seems to tune him out so he will probably rot away all season. Good thats what he gets for being a jerk Good WR or not, theres no excuse for this guy running his mouth like he has the entire off season. Talent wise he should be in the top 5, but the guy is a locker room cancer. You get a few of these on a team and the team goes nowhere. He just makes himself look worse by the day. The Bengals are not going to trade him and take an $8 million cap hit. That would make no sense. Apparently the coaching staff seems to tune him out so he will probably rot away all season. Good thats what he gets for being a jerk

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]]> By: Dirty_Waters http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8434 Dirty_Waters Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:36:02 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8434 Johnson has 48 TD's over the last 6 seasons (2002-2007), not good. He had 8 last season, again not good. That was tied for 15th, with Andre Johnson who missed 7 games. He racks up receptions and yards, but not TD's. Last year was a typical season for Johnson: 95 yards and TD against Baltimore week 1 209 yards and 2 TD's against Cleveland week 2 138 yards 0 TD's against Seattle week 3 103 yards, 3 TD's in a blowout win against Tenn week 12 131 yards, 2 TD's against Miami in week 17 So 7 TD's in 3 games, 1 in the other 13. He even dropped a game tying touchdown pass as time expired agaisnt San Fran week 15. Not an easy catch, but not that difficult either, and one a "HOF" receiver should make with the game on the line everytime. He is not a top 5 receiver, not even close. I wouldn't take him on my team no matter what the circumstances. He is a bigger cancer than both TO and Moss, with half the talent and stats. Johnson has 48 TD’s over the last 6 seasons (2002-2007), not good. He had 8 last season, again not good. That was tied for 15th, with Andre Johnson who missed 7 games. He racks up receptions and yards, but not TD’s. Last year was a typical season for Johnson:

95 yards and TD against Baltimore week 1
209 yards and 2 TD’s against Cleveland week 2
138 yards 0 TD’s against Seattle week 3
103 yards, 3 TD’s in a blowout win against Tenn week 12
131 yards, 2 TD’s against Miami in week 17

So 7 TD’s in 3 games, 1 in the other 13. He even dropped a game tying touchdown pass as time expired agaisnt San Fran week 15. Not an easy catch, but not that difficult either, and one a “HOF” receiver should make with the game on the line everytime.

He is not a top 5 receiver, not even close. I wouldn’t take him on my team no matter what the circumstances. He is a bigger cancer than both TO and Moss, with half the talent and stats.

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]]> By: Real Football Fan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8423 Real Football Fan Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:27:35 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8423 Name an elite receiver that doesn't talk outside of Torry Holt or Reggie Wayne. Marvin Lewis let this get out of hand by not reeling Chad in early in his career. Don't let how you feel about a player's antics cloud how you see them as a player. he's a top 5 wide out because he has superior athletic ability, great speed, good hands, and good route running skills. That's why T. J. gets as many catches as he does. By the way, T. J.'s not exactly the most cordial guy in the world if you've ever paid attention...he just doesn't showboat like Chad. Moss, Smith, Holt, T.O., Boulden, Fitzgerald, and Wayne...that's it in his class. I'd put him right in there with the latter 3, ranking them at your discretion. Bottom line is that there's little that a receiver can do to impact the entirety of a team. Look at Moss, sure he quit in Oakland, but nobody saw 23 touchdowns coming last season. All because he was on a team that could play defense, run the ball, and had a QB. right now, Chad's only got a QB in that equation because they can't run the ball and their defense has been horrible since he's been a Bungal. Name an elite receiver that doesn’t talk outside of Torry Holt or Reggie Wayne. Marvin Lewis let this get out of hand by not reeling Chad in early in his career. Don’t let how you feel about a player’s antics cloud how you see them as a player. he’s a top 5 wide out because he has superior athletic ability, great speed, good hands, and good route running skills. That’s why T. J. gets as many catches as he does. By the way, T. J.’s not exactly the most cordial guy in the world if you’ve ever paid attention…he just doesn’t showboat like Chad. Moss, Smith, Holt, T.O., Boulden, Fitzgerald, and Wayne…that’s it in his class. I’d put him right in there with the latter 3, ranking them at your discretion. Bottom line is that there’s little that a receiver can do to impact the entirety of a team. Look at Moss, sure he quit in Oakland, but nobody saw 23 touchdowns coming last season. All because he was on a team that could play defense, run the ball, and had a QB. right now, Chad’s only got a QB in that equation because they can’t run the ball and their defense has been horrible since he’s been a Bungal.

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]]> By: preludetosmack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8422 preludetosmack Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:24:26 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8422 Don't care about 2002 until now? He was in the top 3 in yardage last year (ottomh I don't remember if he was 2 or 3). And as to him only getting the yardage against crap opponents, Cincy plays Baltimore & Pittsburgh (top 5 defenses) twice a year. If DeAngelo Hall is worth a 2nd and 6th round pick, Chad would be worth more. 4th round pick? That's retarded. Don’t care about 2002 until now? He was in the top 3 in yardage last year (ottomh I don’t remember if he was 2 or 3). And as to him only getting the yardage against crap opponents, Cincy plays Baltimore & Pittsburgh (top 5 defenses) twice a year. If DeAngelo Hall is worth a 2nd and 6th round pick, Chad would be worth more. 4th round pick? That’s retarded.

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]]> By: whodey122975 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8419 whodey122975 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:08:16 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8419 to : Jeremiah W i agree with the chad comments and he deserves any crap he gets due to his actions but i kinda dont get the last half of your post. the bengals have not finished last in the afc north since 2002. and the bengals are 7-5 against the ravens during the same years. the begnals also swept two of those years and the ravens swept one of them. granted, the bengals dont have a super bowl, but be a little more fair. to : Jeremiah W
i agree with the chad comments and he deserves any crap he gets due to his actions but i kinda dont get the last half of your post. the bengals have not finished last in the afc north since 2002. and the bengals are 7-5 against the ravens during the same years. the begnals also swept two of those years and the ravens swept one of them. granted, the bengals dont have a super bowl, but be a little more fair.

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]]> By: Norseman http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8415 Norseman Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:51:57 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8415 The guys in the locker-room should toss a blanket over him and beat the living crap out of him. Maybe then he'd shut up and fall in line. The guys in the locker-room should toss a blanket over him and beat the living crap out of him. Maybe then he’d shut up and fall in line.

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]]> By: Dirty_Waters http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8413 Dirty_Waters Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:36:36 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8413 preludetosmack, who cares about 2002 until now. OK, so Shaun Alexander is great by those standards. Johnson has a lot of yardage, but thats because the Bengals throw the ball 40 times a game. He does not have great hands, and he does not have that many TD's. He is also one of the biggest cancers in the league, with Moss and TO you accept it because they can dominate a game by themselves. preludetosmack, who cares about 2002 until now. OK, so Shaun Alexander is great by those standards. Johnson has a lot of yardage, but thats because the Bengals throw the ball 40 times a game. He does not have great hands, and he does not have that many TD’s. He is also one of the biggest cancers in the league, with Moss and TO you accept it because they can dominate a game by themselves.

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]]> By: NJHAWK1 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8411 NJHAWK1 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:20:46 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8411 I thought the "sessions are voluntary" comment by a Bengal spokesman was priceless. It's a PC way of calling Chad an A__Hole. I thought the “sessions are voluntary” comment by a Bengal spokesman was priceless. It’s a PC way of calling Chad an A__Hole.

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]]> By: pharmdude http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8409 pharmdude Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:11:53 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8409 Since money supposedly isn't the issue, let him pay the $8 mil cap hit out of his own pocket and I'm sure the Bengals will be more than willing to accommodate his trade request. Since money supposedly isn’t the issue, let him pay the $8 mil cap hit out of his own pocket and I’m sure the Bengals will be more than willing to accommodate his trade request.

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]]> By: Jeremiah W http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8407 Jeremiah W Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:08:44 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8407 Ocho Stinko did not say he did not want more money, but he made it clear that he is going to be holding out and demanding to be traded or released. There seemed to be genuine distain for the Bungle organiztion in his tone at least if not his words. He just wants to win, and he knows the Bungles are going be in last place again with a fancy scmancy, nancy offense and no trace of talent or even scheme on defense. He puts up top 3 WR numbers, but that is because of his QB and the fact they have to score 40 to win. I would not give the Bungles a bucket of urine if they were on fire, but in this case, I would be O.k. with the Ravens giving them a 4th round pick for him. Ocho Stinko did not say he did not want more money, but he made it clear that he is going to be holding out and demanding to be traded or released. There seemed to be genuine distain for the Bungle organiztion in his tone at least if not his words. He just wants to win, and he knows the Bungles are going be in last place again with a fancy scmancy, nancy offense and no trace of talent or even scheme on defense. He puts up top 3 WR numbers, but that is because of his QB and the fact they have to score 40 to win.
I would not give the Bungles a bucket of urine if they were on fire, but in this case, I would be O.k. with the Ravens giving them a 4th round pick for him.

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]]> By: Bengals4Life http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8404 Bengals4Life Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:58:45 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8404 The only time CJ ever lights teams up are when the games are against a bad opponent or meaningless. He racks up huge numbers in just a few games and is pretty much an afterthought for the rest of the season. I wouldn't mind him leaving, I welcome it. The only time CJ ever lights teams up are when the games are against a bad opponent or meaningless. He racks up huge numbers in just a few games and is pretty much an afterthought for the rest of the season. I wouldn’t mind him leaving, I welcome it.

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]]> By: dlmcc0202 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8403 dlmcc0202 Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:42:19 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8403 The guy is a locker room cancer. No doubting his talent, but he is not worth the headache. The team doesn't need him. T.J has better hands than him anyway. I used to like the guy but his attitude and his selfishness ruined it for me. You can't win the big game with this guy tearing apart your locker room and undermining everyone The guy is a locker room cancer. No doubting his talent, but he is not worth the headache. The team doesn’t need him. T.J has better hands than him anyway. I used to like the guy but his attitude and his selfishness ruined it for me. You can’t win the big game with this guy tearing apart your locker room and undermining everyone

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]]> By: The Jimmy http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8393 The Jimmy Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:00:04 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8393 there are a number of wideouts that could put up his numbers in that offense. The guy's a cancer. Intangibles have to be figured into how valuable of a player someone is. His are horrible. He drags that team down. there are a number of wideouts that could put up his numbers in that offense.

The guy’s a cancer. Intangibles have to be figured into how valuable of a player someone is. His are horrible. He drags that team down.

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]]> By: preludetosmack http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8389 preludetosmack Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:46:03 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8389 Chad's not a top 3 WR? He's 8-12? You must be watching games through dirty waters. How does a guy who is not top 5 lead the league in yardage? How does he have more receiving yards than any other WR since 2002? He must be so much worse than many of those you listed (Edwards? Stone hands much?) considering most of them are 1,000 yards or more behind him for that stretch. No arguing that he needs to shut up, but he's without a doubt a top 3, 5 at worst, WR in this league. Anyone who says otherwise is just mad because he consistantly lights up their team. Chad’s not a top 3 WR? He’s 8-12? You must be watching games through dirty waters. How does a guy who is not top 5 lead the league in yardage? How does he have more receiving yards than any other WR since 2002? He must be so much worse than many of those you listed (Edwards? Stone hands much?) considering most of them are 1,000 yards or more behind him for that stretch.

No arguing that he needs to shut up, but he’s without a doubt a top 3, 5 at worst, WR in this league. Anyone who says otherwise is just mad because he consistantly lights up their team.

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]]> By: sadlionsfan http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8383 sadlionsfan Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:13:48 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8383 does he really refer to himself in third person? who does he think he is, george costanza? does he really refer to himself in third person? who does he think he is, george costanza?

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]]> By: Dirty_Waters http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8382 Dirty_Waters Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:09:50 +0000 http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/19/chad-wont-show-for-workouts/#comment-8382 He is so overrated. He thinks he's top 3 in the league, he's between 8th and 12th at best. TO, Moss, Wayne, Harrison (healthy), Burress, Holt (healthy), Edwards, Fitzgerald, Smith, Andre Johnson are better. Colston and Houshmandzadeh are just as good as him. He needs to get over himself and shut up. He is so overrated. He thinks he’s top 3 in the league, he’s between 8th and 12th at best. TO, Moss, Wayne, Harrison (healthy), Burress, Holt (healthy), Edwards, Fitzgerald, Smith, Andre Johnson are better. Colston and Houshmandzadeh are just as good as him. He needs to get over himself and shut up.

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